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THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI Marketing and Public Relations NEWS RELEASE Southern Miss and Biloxi Regional Medical Center Partner LONG BEACH -- The University of Southern Mississippi and Biloxi Regional Medical Center have established a partnership to meeting the n...

Angeline

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/local/10929958.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

Cossack

My inability to forecast the events involving SFT and USM is now evident to all. I was of the opinion that the Board Office and Board members were tired of the ongoing mess at USM and ready to act. It is obvious that this young grasshopper needs to go to the back of the line and study more, and listen more. Sa...

Robert Campbell

Whether there is any delayed fallout from this Board meeting remains to be seen. But if Thames has been instructed to "pursue other opportunities," he and Mader (if she is still working for USM by then) will make the announcement soon enough. One thing that is clear is that the Board doesn't want t...

info

If you missed WDAM at 6:00, be sure to catch it at 10:00. Although there's no news that hasn't already been reported, Klumb gets a lot of camera time talking about how "deliberately and thoroughly" the IHL discussed USM today and IHL's refusal to talk about SFT's contract -- Klumb: "I won't weigh in on t...

Robert Campbell

I've posted to Liberty Power twice this evening, on the Board's inaction. The later, more detailed entry is http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/10296.html Though I was warned by credible sources that it might happen, I find the Board's total inaction depressing. While the pattern o...

LVN

At 8 pm on TBS (ch 49 in the 'burg) is a really stupid, funny movie with Tim Allen, called Galaxy Quest. I'm going to watch it. A cat or two will probably watch it with me, and I'll scratch their ears and talk baby talk to them. Then I'm going to see if I have any Valentine's chocolate left. Then MAYBE I'll look...

Joy Killer

It's time to make it much less fun for Shelby. Faculty should lay down their SACS assignments and spend their time sending out the CV's. They should do this with fanfare. I appreciate that the faculty is working to save the school. I also appreciate that they are doing it largely for the sak...

Stranded

If the IHL takes no action at its Thursday meeting, or engages in only gentle hand-slapping, what then? What else is there to do? I am at a loss for an answer.

General Curtis LeMay's Risky Manager

If the HIL fails to take appropriate action on Thursday, one option available to the faculty is the academic counterpart to what was described as the nuclear option during the cold war era. Specifically, the only power the faculty has over the IHL is the power to deliver to the IHL...

Advocate

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050217/OPINION03/502170326/1014/OPINION

Pi$$ed-off Student

I'm ready. Wasn't March 9 the date of our huge protest last year? I think it's time to meet in front of the dome to commemorate the anniversary of last year's protest and to stage a revolt against the administration's current foul-ups. Does anyone still have the heart to do this? ...

info

Today's IHL press release. Note the odd title, given how little the release concerns SACS. http://www.ihl.state.ms.us/newsstory.asp?ID=311 BOARD FOCUSED ON SACS ACCREDITATION 2/17/2005 (JACKSON, MISS. ) - The Board of Trustees of State Institutions of Highe...

row faster, Ben Hur

Where can I get those cute stickers I've seen on campus (mostly in the urinals) with shelby's face and a red line through it?

The Jackson Connection

I just received information that the votes necessary to CAN Thames are in place. The meeting will take place and he will be CANNED!!!!

Counting the days

I'll be honest - I am clueless about Klumb's statement. What does this mean - that we aren't going to worry about those CoB type problems? His statement says nothing, makes absolutely no sense. Look - we get the letter from SACS stating that distance education evaluation is a problem,...

Green Hornet

Regarding the IHL conspiracy theory that has been discussed since this board (and the Fire Shelby Board) began; we need to look at possible outcomes of this Thursday’s IHL meeting. Any of the following scenarios or combinations of; confirm the conspiracy theory. SFT is told to...

In the News

HA says: The state College Board this morning voted to go into closed session to discuss a personnel matter at the University of Southern Mississippi, according to interim Commissioner Richard Crofts. Crofts would not provide specifics about the personnel matter. Southern Miss Pres...

truth4usm/AH

Please post any news from the IHL meeting today here...links to news articles, coverage, eyewitness accounts of Shelboo being taken out behind the IHL's woodshed, etc. would be appreciated!

In the News

Do we know of any USM faculty that are attending the IHL Board meeting and will be reporting back?

Great Timing, CL

See today's CL editorial, "Honorable thing for Thames to do — resign", by Eric Stringfellow, linked under Thames News on the AAUP front page. "Thames' recalcitrance means the state College Board, which is meeting today, should stop hoping USM's issues evaporate. It's unfair to faculty members...

Bob Huggins

My Bearcats weren't good hosts, hammering the Eagles 83-51. The C-USA Commish should halt USM's season. This is nasty

Patti

http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/02/16/harvard.summers.ap/index.html

Angeline

Complete with a video clip: http://www.wtok.com/news/headlines/1272327.html Can he be more condescending? In discussing efforts to get USM off of accreditation probation: "We're working very hard to make it go away and it's fixable and our people are being very good about helping,...

Robert Campbell

I've posted an update on Liberty and Power... trying to be realistic without wallowing in despair. http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/10267.html Robert Campbell

Bigger and Better

"It's certainly not surprising to me," said Joe Paul, vice president of student affairs at The University of Southern Mississippi. "I know at our university, we've had significant growth for about 12 years running -- and specifically in African-American Mississippi residents." A significan...

Amy Young

I found this brochure on the IDV website. It looks like 6 hours of graduate credit in two weeks! http://www.usm.edu/idv/images/belize_bro.pdf I am a bit disturbed by the description of Belize presented in the brochure as well. I would have thought that an international development prog...

Amy Young

Today's Student Printz headlines a story on the plane. I sure wish the Printz was available online. I was talking to three students just moments ago who noticed the article in the Printz and were angry because of anticipated raises in tuition and reduction in federal financial aid. T...

authoritay

There is a story making the rounds, with very credible sources, that the DuBard School coffers have been raided by SFT & Co. The word is now that without a fix, the school's programs will have to curtailed to next-to-nothing (or the school may even cease to exist) by the end of this school yea...

Outside Observer

A couple of characteristics of effective leadership are that the leader has a vision, and he/she is able to inspire followers to internalize this visions. The vision must be challenging yet attainable, much different (better) than where the organization is currently, and the organizatio...

Angeline

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=OPINION

Anne Wallace

I've been off the board for a few days, so I apologize if I'm duplicating what others have already said-- friends, this Thursday's Board meeting may not be THE moment, but it surely seems an important one-- If you have a number to call or a letter to write or a friend to contact, now is the time....

Elections Moderator

Please vote above.

qwerty

Reading the letters-to-the editor, and seeing the hostility towards the faculty in the community has led me to conclude that SFT is giving the students and alumni of USM exactly the university they want and deserve. I'm a graduate of a leading southern state univeristy that really does have a "w...

Missed my flu shot

In the not too distant past USM's Nursing program held a premier status among its peers within the state. I have not taught USM Nursing students for a few years, but when I did have them in class I was very impressed. The criteria for entering that program was higher than in most other undergraduate disc...

Emma

We must be making them very uncomfortable. Look at how their language has changed - look at how their responses are seemingly more desperate with no indication of institutional knowledge. We are gaining -- and they have every right to be afraid about their imminent exposure. Buh, bye Shelb...

Angeline

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050216/OPINION01/502160310/1014/OPINION

Elections Moderator

Please participate.

In the News

Mader is still here and has finally poked her head up to fend off Kevin Walters. She says that the letters should have stayed out of the media, etc. etc. and that we are all moving forward, ever forward. The most telling lines in the story: The Faculty Senate voted earlier this month to send a resolut...

Reporter

2 February 2005 Provost Jay Grimes Box 5002 Dear Provost Grimes, We have been directed by Academic Council to write in protest of the recent actions that have resulted in new/modified degree programs, moved majors, and renaming of departments and colleges without going through the process...

David Johnson

[url=http://www.dailytexanonline.com/news/2005/02/15/...

Cox-Purvis Report

Tonight, the Eagles travel to Cincy to face the Bearcats before a national TV audience on ESPN2 at 7 tonight. Reporters here at C-P are urging readers to consider putting young children off to bed early tonight (or at least in their rooms doing homework). If your pre-teens choose to watc...

Jameela Lares

This morning's online Chronicle of Higher Education had a relevant article on the dangers of privitization and corporate interference. The Future Project is releasing today the result of its five-year study, "Correcting Course: How We Can Restore the Ideals of Public Highe...

Elections Moderator

Please vote in this important new Interim Provost Poll #2. Your vote counts.

late night musings

Many other states (Texas and North Carolina come to mind first, but even places like Alabama) have a comprehensive, site-based university system? I'll illustrate what I mean by using North Carolina as an example. The school has a flagship school (UNC-Chapel Hill), but equally respec...

Reporter

7 February 2005 Provost Jay Grimes Box 5002 Dear Provost Grimes, We have been directed by Academic Council to advise you concerning the plans that were formulated regarding the Gulf Park campus library. The duly elected members of Academic Council believe that the library is absolut...

Elections Moderator

Please vote in this new Interim Provost poll. Your vote is your vote.

Gnome Watcher

From "The Harvard Crimson" . . . SUMMERS TO FACE FACULTY STORM By WILLIAM C. MARRA and SARA E. POLSKY Crimson Staff Writers University President Lawrence H. Summers will face the full Faculty of Arts and Sciences (FAS) today for the first time since his controversial remarks on...

oldtimer

With apologies for the abuse of the English language here, but the discussion of ex-IHL Board Member Carl Nicholson's comment about the "Thames coronation" got me to thinking that this was absolutely correct -- considering the presidency of Shelboo requires several Coronas, or a Guinness or thre...

Cellblock 30406

'Inmates' mustn't pick USM 'warden'

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Biloxi Regional Medical Center (Preview) THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI Marketing and Public Relations NEWS RELEASE Southern Miss and Biloxi Regional Medical Center Partner LONG BEACH -- The University of Southern Mississippi and Biloxi Regional Medical Center have established a partnership to meeting the n...	Reporter	16	1018	Feb 18, 2005 by Ship of Fools
	Sun-Herald at least outlines the failures (Preview) http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/local/10929958.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp	Angeline	1	441	Feb 18, 2005 by I make this point to even my lst year students
	Grasshopper learns a lesson (Preview) My inability to forecast the events involving SFT and USM is now evident to all. I was of the opinion that the Board Office and Board members were tired of the ongoing mess at USM and ready to act. It is obvious that this young grasshopper needs to go to the back of the line and study more, and listen more. Sa...	Cossack	2	479	Feb 18, 2005 by LeavingASAP
	Where next? (Preview) Whether there is any delayed fallout from this Board meeting remains to be seen. But if Thames has been instructed to "pursue other opportunities," he and Mader (if she is still working for USM by then) will make the announcement soon enough. One thing that is clear is that the Board doesn't want t...	Robert Campbell	11	980	Feb 18, 2005 by Green Hornet
	WDAM, 6:00 (Preview) If you missed WDAM at 6:00, be sure to catch it at 10:00. Although there's no news that hasn't already been reported, Klumb gets a lot of camera time talking about how "deliberately and thoroughly" the IHL discussed USM today and IHL's refusal to talk about SFT's contract -- Klumb: "I won't weigh in on t...	info	6	2549	Feb 17, 2005 by David Johnson
	L and P on nothing and more about nothing (Preview) I've posted to Liberty Power twice this evening, on the Board's inaction. The later, more detailed entry is http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/10296.html Though I was warned by credible sources that it might happen, I find the Board's total inaction depressing. While the pattern o...	Robert Campbell	5	447	Feb 17, 2005 by Shot in the dark
	RX for tonight 2/17 (Preview) At 8 pm on TBS (ch 49 in the 'burg) is a really stupid, funny movie with Tim Allen, called Galaxy Quest. I'm going to watch it. A cat or two will probably watch it with me, and I'll scratch their ears and talk baby talk to them. Then I'm going to see if I have any Valentine's chocolate left. Then MAYBE I'll look...	LVN	4	495	Feb 17, 2005 by LVN
	End his fun! (Preview) It's time to make it much less fun for Shelby. Faculty should lay down their SACS assignments and spend their time sending out the CV's. They should do this with fanfare. I appreciate that the faculty is working to save the school. I also appreciate that they are doing it largely for the sak...	Joy Killer	2	650	Feb 17, 2005 by toga
	What if the IHL does nothing at Thursday's meeting ( 1 2 ) (Preview) If the IHL takes no action at its Thursday meeting, or engages in only gentle hand-slapping, what then? What else is there to do? I am at a loss for an answer.	Stranded	38	1960	Feb 17, 2005 by Gone Never Returning
	The Nuclear Option - MAD (Preview) If the HIL fails to take appropriate action on Thursday, one option available to the faculty is the academic counterpart to what was described as the nuclear option during the cold war era. Specifically, the only power the faculty has over the IHL is the power to deliver to the IHL...	General Curtis LeMay's Risky Manager	9	784	Feb 17, 2005 by Robert Campbell
	HA: Safeguard Investment (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050217/OPINION03/502170326/1014/OPINION	Advocate	11	770	Feb 17, 2005 by Herald
	Who's ready for another protest? (Preview) I'm ready. Wasn't March 9 the date of our huge protest last year? I think it's time to meet in front of the dome to commemorate the anniversary of last year's protest and to stage a revolt against the administration's current foul-ups. Does anyone still have the heart to do this? ...	Pi$$ed-off Student	1	444	Feb 17, 2005 by can't think straight
	IHL press release, 2/17 (Preview) Today's IHL press release. Note the odd title, given how little the release concerns SACS. http://www.ihl.state.ms.us/newsstory.asp?ID=311 BOARD FOCUSED ON SACS ACCREDITATION 2/17/2005 (JACKSON, MISS. ) - The Board of Trustees of State Institutions of Highe...	info	4	659	Feb 17, 2005 by Occam's Electric Razor
	protest stickers (Preview) Where can I get those cute stickers I've seen on campus (mostly in the urinals) with shelby's face and a red line through it?	row faster, Ben Hur	0	356	Feb 17, 2005 by row faster, Ben Hur
	THAMES CANNED (Preview) I just received information that the votes necessary to CAN Thames are in place. The meeting will take place and he will be CANNED!!!!	The Jackson Connection	29	1370	Feb 17, 2005 by Vote Schmote
	What does "moving past accreditation issues" mean? (Preview) I'll be honest - I am clueless about Klumb's statement. What does this mean - that we aren't going to worry about those CoB type problems? His statement says nothing, makes absolutely no sense. Look - we get the letter from SACS stating that distance education evaluation is a problem,...	Counting the days	1	468	Feb 17, 2005 by Reporter
	Outcomes from IHL meeting Thursday ( 1 2 ) (Preview) Regarding the IHL conspiracy theory that has been discussed since this board (and the Fire Shelby Board) began; we need to look at possible outcomes of this Thursday’s IHL meeting. Any of the following scenarios or combinations of; confirm the conspiracy theory. SFT is told to...	Green Hornet	34	1715	Feb 17, 2005 by Green Hornet
	HA: Closed door meeting begins (Preview) HA says: The state College Board this morning voted to go into closed session to discuss a personnel matter at the University of Southern Mississippi, according to interim Commissioner Richard Crofts. Crofts would not provide specifics about the personnel matter. Southern Miss Pres...	In the News	1	404	Feb 17, 2005 by HUH?
	Any news from IHL meeting yet? (Preview) Please post any news from the IHL meeting today here...links to news articles, coverage, eyewitness accounts of Shelboo being taken out behind the IHL's woodshed, etc. would be appreciated!	truth4usm/AH	3	348	Feb 17, 2005 by truth4usm/AH
	Who is at the IHL meeting? (Preview) Do we know of any USM faculty that are attending the IHL Board meeting and will be reporting back?	In the News	4	557	Feb 17, 2005 by Peggy Sue
	Editorial Doesn't Mince Words (Preview) See today's CL editorial, "Honorable thing for Thames to do — resign", by Eric Stringfellow, linked under Thames News on the AAUP front page. "Thames' recalcitrance means the state College Board, which is meeting today, should stop hoping USM's issues evaporate. It's unfair to faculty members...	Great Timing, CL	17	983	Feb 17, 2005 by Stranger Than Fiction
	I just spanked Eustachy (Preview) My Bearcats weren't good hosts, hammering the Eagles 83-51. The C-USA Commish should halt USM's season. This is nasty	Bob Huggins	16	599	Feb 17, 2005 by USM Football Historian
	Harvard gets in the news, why not USM? (Preview) http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/02/16/harvard.summers.ap/index.html	Patti	2	408	Feb 17, 2005 by Multiple Choice
	Thames on WTOK (Preview) Complete with a video clip: http://www.wtok.com/news/headlines/1272327.html Can he be more condescending? In discussing efforts to get USM off of accreditation probation: "We're working very hard to make it go away and it's fixable and our people are being very good about helping,...	Angeline	7	655	Feb 17, 2005 by USM Alum
	L and P update before the Board meeting (Preview) I've posted an update on Liberty and Power... trying to be realistic without wallowing in despair. http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/10267.html Robert Campbell	Robert Campbell	7	609	Feb 17, 2005 by Behind the green door
	USM: Significant growth for about 12 years running (Preview) "It's certainly not surprising to me," said Joe Paul, vice president of student affairs at The University of Southern Mississippi. "I know at our university, we've had significant growth for about 12 years running -- and specifically in African-American Mississippi residents." A significan...	Bigger and Better	15	849	Feb 17, 2005 by palindrome
	new IDV brochure ( 1 2 ) (Preview) I found this brochure on the IDV website. It looks like 6 hours of graduate credit in two weeks! http://www.usm.edu/idv/images/belize_bro.pdf I am a bit disturbed by the description of Belize presented in the brochure as well. I would have thought that an international development prog...	Amy Young	46	5294	Feb 17, 2005 by Angela Cutrer
	more on airplane (Preview) Today's Student Printz headlines a story on the plane. I sure wish the Printz was available online. I was talking to three students just moments ago who noticed the article in the Printz and were angry because of anticipated raises in tuition and reduction in federal financial aid. T...	Amy Young	0	375	Feb 17, 2005 by Amy Young
	Breaking Story.....More Bad Stuff (Preview) There is a story making the rounds, with very credible sources, that the DuBard School coffers have been raided by SFT & Co. The word is now that without a fix, the school's programs will have to curtailed to next-to-nothing (or the school may even cease to exist) by the end of this school yea...	authoritay	14	1194	Feb 17, 2005 by Cossack
	Leadership (Preview) A couple of characteristics of effective leadership are that the leader has a vision, and he/she is able to inspire followers to internalize this visions. The vision must be challenging yet attainable, much different (better) than where the organization is currently, and the organizatio...	Outside Observer	6	635	Feb 17, 2005 by Elbert Hubbard
	HA Online Poll about USM (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=OPINION	Angeline	10	782	Feb 17, 2005 by Gnome Watcher
	a crucial moment . . . (Preview) I've been off the board for a few days, so I apologize if I'm duplicating what others have already said-- friends, this Thursday's Board meeting may not be THE moment, but it surely seems an important one-- If you have a number to call or a letter to write or a friend to contact, now is the time....	Anne Wallace	10	1023	Feb 16, 2005 by Winston Churchill
	Important 'New Interim Provost' Poll #3 --- Vote (Preview) Please vote above.	Elections Moderator	13	745	Feb 16, 2005 by Gnome Watcher
	Students & Alums are getting the USM they deserve (Preview) Reading the letters-to-the editor, and seeing the hostility towards the faculty in the community has led me to conclude that SFT is giving the students and alumni of USM exactly the university they want and deserve. I'm a graduate of a leading southern state univeristy that really does have a "w...	qwerty	12	1009	Feb 16, 2005 by College Counselor in the making
	Impact on Nursing (Preview) In the not too distant past USM's Nursing program held a premier status among its peers within the state. I have not taught USM Nursing students for a few years, but when I did have them in class I was very impressed. The criteria for entering that program was higher than in most other undergraduate disc...	Missed my flu shot	27	1422	Feb 16, 2005 by ordered to care
	With the Onslaught of the Trolls (Preview) We must be making them very uncomfortable. Look at how their language has changed - look at how their responses are seemingly more desperate with no indication of institutional knowledge. We are gaining -- and they have every right to be afraid about their imminent exposure. Buh, bye Shelb...	Emma	0	366	Feb 16, 2005 by Emma
	HA Editorial: Keep USM Matters Public (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050216/OPINION01/502160310/1014/OPINION	Angeline	24	1081	Feb 16, 2005 by foot soldier
	Important 'SFT Polymer Science Bldg' Poll (Preview) Please participate.	Elections Moderator	3	565	Feb 16, 2005 by Invictus
	HA: Letter should not have been public (Mader) ( 1 2 ) (Preview) Mader is still here and has finally poked her head up to fend off Kevin Walters. She says that the letters should have stayed out of the media, etc. etc. and that we are all moving forward, ever forward. The most telling lines in the story: The Faculty Senate voted earlier this month to send a resolut...	In the News	31	2010	Feb 16, 2005 by Senator
	Academic Council Corrects Grimes (Preview) 2 February 2005 Provost Jay Grimes Box 5002 Dear Provost Grimes, We have been directed by Academic Council to write in protest of the recent actions that have resulted in new/modified degree programs, moved majors, and renaming of departments and colleges without going through the process...	Reporter	6	1977	Feb 16, 2005 by Anne Wallace
	Tenure Report (Preview) [url=http://www.dailytexanonline.com/news/2005/02/15/...	David Johnson	12	569	Feb 16, 2005 by Perspective, Please
	Viewer Advisory --- Please Read (Preview) Tonight, the Eagles travel to Cincy to face the Bearcats before a national TV audience on ESPN2 at 7 tonight. Reporters here at C-P are urging readers to consider putting young children off to bed early tonight (or at least in their rooms doing homework). If your pre-teens choose to watc...	Cox-Purvis Report	1	514	Feb 16, 2005 by Jared Wilson #16
	Chronicle article: Privitization Danger (Preview) This morning's online Chronicle of Higher Education had a relevant article on the dangers of privitization and corporate interference. The Future Project is releasing today the result of its five-year study, "Correcting Course: How We Can Restore the Ideals of Public Highe...	Jameela Lares	2	380	Feb 16, 2005 by Integrity: Not For Sale
	Important 'New Interim Provost' Poll #2 --- Vote (Preview) Please vote in this important new Interim Provost Poll #2. Your vote counts.	Elections Moderator	1	428	Feb 16, 2005 by Invictus
	Why don't we have a "U-of-MS" SYSTEM? (Preview) Many other states (Texas and North Carolina come to mind first, but even places like Alabama) have a comprehensive, site-based university system? I'll illustrate what I mean by using North Carolina as an example. The school has a flagship school (UNC-Chapel Hill), but equally respec...	late night musings	6	474	Feb 16, 2005 by ram
	Academic Council 2/7/05 (Preview) 7 February 2005 Provost Jay Grimes Box 5002 Dear Provost Grimes, We have been directed by Academic Council to advise you concerning the plans that were formulated regarding the Gulf Park campus library. The duly elected members of Academic Council believe that the library is absolut...	Reporter	4	2059	Feb 16, 2005 by cc
	Important 'New Interim Provost' Poll --- Vote (Preview) Please vote in this new Interim Provost poll. Your vote is your vote.	Elections Moderator	8	608	Feb 16, 2005 by Gnome Watcher
	How it's done at a 1st Class school! (Preview) From "The Harvard Crimson" . . . SUMMERS TO FACE FACULTY STORM By WILLIAM C. MARRA and SARA E. POLSKY Crimson Staff Writers University President Lawrence H. Summers will face the full Faculty of Arts and Sciences (FAS) today for the first time since his controversial remarks on...	Gnome Watcher	10	678	Feb 15, 2005 by Mason & Dixon
	Thames "Coronation" (Preview) With apologies for the abuse of the English language here, but the discussion of ex-IHL Board Member Carl Nicholson's comment about the "Thames coronation" got me to thinking that this was absolutely correct -- considering the presidency of Shelboo requires several Coronas, or a Guinness or thre...	oldtimer	0	382	Feb 15, 2005 by oldtimer
	Another one of those uninformed letters (Preview) 'Inmates' mustn't pick USM 'warden'	Cellblock 30406	9	745	Feb 15, 2005 by Rudy Kazootie
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