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FatManWalking

"retention rate" - the percentage of students that return after freshman year, and the percentage that graduate within a specified number of years. I really need these from the last 4 years, and I need them from a credible source rather than an anonymous poster here. Library? Magazine? W...

Outside Observer

http://www.thegoosesnest.com/Blogs/thedailyegg/2004_06_27_thedailyegg_archive.html

truth4usm/AH

This is a thread for questions that need to be raised at the next PUC meeting. I'll start: What is happening to USM's AA/EEOC office and why was Becky Woodrick given a terminal contract (in effect, fired)?

Austin Eagle

Could one of the computer savants explain why the "Last Post" column on the AAUP message board does not function properly? More specifically, the display of elapsed time since the last post for any given thread is so inaccurate as to be worthless, often lagging several hours beh...

Mediatracker

Corporate-Style Leaders May Not Make the Best College Presidents, Business Expert Says Well, NSS! "Mr. Collins suggested that what he described as higher education's fixation on business culture may be counterproductive. Leaders who prosper in the business world, he said, in many cases ap...

See More

This week's issue geocities.com/seemore004

Invictus

USM offers more variety in food service Not everything about outsourcing is bad: Southern Miss's food services employees were offered jobs with Aramark. Josephine Burkett and Diane Brown, who've worked together for 26 years, both transferred to Aramark. "It's been a big change," B...

New Adjunct

This is old news to most of you, but who invented this 2.5 hour academic week? Where did the other half hour go? Even adding a week to the semester doesn't make it up. I did teach at one school where the classes were 55 minutes, but elsewhere they are a full hour (or a full hour and a half....

Seeker

As you all probably realize I don't post here much anymore. The new job keeps me quite busy. But, I do read fairly often. What I am seeing here now is very sad. This group has taken mob mentality and morphed from being a group organized to oppose SFT, into a group that is determined to harm Southern Mis...

oldprof

The malcontents in CBED are finally leaving. Many of you have followed them rant and rave on this board for some time about Doty and others. Doty is doing yeoman work in CBED, and all these so-called mobile faculty are no longer in way of progress. Marc Depree is another malcontent...

Reporter

The following was on the Faculty Senate listserv today. Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:11:09 -0500 From: Ray Folse To: Facsen@usm.edu Reply-to: facsen@usm.edu Subject: [Facsen] Fwd: Re: [PresidentsCouncil] (no subject) >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:10:02 -0500 >To: presiden...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Miss Information

As we begin with las menciones honorables, let's all remember that while it pays to be Street Wise in Chicago, it pays to be street wise at USM, too. The Pisces and Quarry Commission stressed the principal methods of research (fish & dig). And Pea under the mattresses is always a classic experimen...

Southern Mess

Word from a friend at another university who gets an early glimpse at the rankings has told me that USM has fallen to the 4th tier in the national category. While these are easy to discount, many students look at them for guidance. UM and MSU are entrenched 3rd tier schools. I...

truth4usm/AH

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/updates/8379.html

Angeline

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040829/opinion/1137094.html

ram

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040828/opinion/1130774.html

tvscene

'Dialogue' at USM actually one-sided Universities are charged with the task of teaching students the basic democratic values of American civilization. That is why public universities in all 50 states practice what they teach: They have democratic governance systems. Public universities in...

tvscene

Conditions at USM must be reformed Now that due process has made clear and has remedied the injustice committed against Professors Frank Glamser and Gary Stringer, it is up to the members of the Mississippi College Board to acknowledge the simple truth of what these proceedings imply about the Un...

Angeline

Having just read Jean Moulin's post on the main AAUP page, I thought it might be a good idea to retrieve this posting from the FS Board. Is there anything we can do about this move to turn USM from a great public resource into an engine of personal profit that only benefits a few? >What we have h...

STHM

You, Shelby. The VV, PUC, LSM's spins, and AD's waaaaaa's won't help your cause. Eagle talk comrades, chime in. This AAUP website is all about integrity and deconstructing spin!

Information Please

If the USM nursing program has lost the resources I have been led to believe it has lost, and its building is inadequate as I have been led to believe it is, how and why would it be increasing the number of new students, now and in the next enrollment period, as reported in today's Hattiesburg American? My...

Site Visitor

This morning I inadvertently stumbled on a website with which I am unfamilar. It is very well constructed (slicker than even the official USM website) and was evidently updated recently (it highlights the quote "We are proud to be ranked among schools like Alabama and Michigan State in the...

Wllm Faulkner

Okay Noel Polk, now that I've got your attention, is it true? Have you quit? Are you going to Ole Miss?

Chronicler

The Chronicle of Higher Education's 2004-5 Almanac Issue is out today. USM alone gets nearly half of the narrative devoted to describing the state of higher education in Mississippi. "Elsewhere, the president of the University of Southern Mississippi, Shelby F. Thames, angered many profes...

GMC

A hateful web site if I ever saw one. You talk about balance, but nothing here is balanced. Thank you. GMC

truth4usm/AH

For fans of the Student Printz, it's back online. Here is the URL: For now, you have to click on the headings ("News," "Features," etc.) in order to get the most recent stories. The front page should be up soon. There's a story on the reception for Hudson with these perfe...

Reed

FYI: Bon voyage reception for Dr. Tim Hudson today from 3-5 in the Theatre and Dance Building lobby.

Advocate

I can't copy in a hot link -- need help from Hot Link -- check out the online HA for opinion on Mader's response to USNWR rankings.

Where'sthebeef

I am very disappointed that gurunburg has been slack in posting his/her daily rumour mill...It is just about the only entertaining portion of this board...alot of the other posts are pretty ridiculous and at least gurunburg posts up some interesting bits of BS that allow people to chime in wi...

Hewey, Dewey, and Louie

Inspiring words from Vanderbilt Chancellor Gordon Gee appeared yesterday. Today: two statements by LSU Interim Chancellor William L. Jenkins (Fall, 2004 Alumni Magazine): " . . . winning a national championship in football . . . But, more importantly, we were also s...

truth4usm/AH

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040826/localnews/1121765.html

truth4usm/AH

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040826/localnews/1121766.html

babbs

USM Departures, August 2004 thru July 2005 Becky Woodrick, Director of AA/EEOC (down-sized; situation pending) Total Leaving: 1 Total Retiring:

nextstateover

Margaret Mary Sulentic, terminated after her 3rd year by Dana Thames, Carl Martray, and Jay Grimes (although passed by the UAC),has been the Associate Superintendent of C and I at the East Baton Rouge Parish since 2002. She has now been hired at Southern Univ. as an adjunct professor. EBR is pr...

Whirling Dervish

Hattiesburg American: I recommend that until you have full assurance that all press releases submitted to you from USM are accurate in every detail, they be placed in the "opinion" section of your paper rather than printed in the news or editorial sections. My head is still spinni...

Angeline

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040821/localnews/1088104.html

Reporter

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/updates/8383.html

New Adjunct

Just pulled rosters for my two classes that meet tomorrow, and both sections are over enrolled. What gives? We were told a class size that was already too big.

Invictus

I've heard of targeted internet marketing, but the last page view brought up a set of four ads that was spooky... "Custom Research $15/page: Original work - confidential service Guaranteed plagiarism-free. Call us" "Statistician: Statistics Help for Researchers, Students and Busine...

Spin Doctor

"Southern Miss Chemistry Professor Chairs Science Conference in Maine" Pojman is the first professor in the Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry to ever chair a Gordon Research Conference and only the second one from Southern Miss. "UPSET Manufacturer Unhappy Ove...

gurunuburg

1. Interim Provost named (Provost Grimes), and a new committee formed to do a "national search" for a new one. Word is (as reported on this board and supported by my operatives) that many of the committee's "members" found out when they saw the press release, while others received surprise cal...

Wild and Worldly

The word "world" seems to be the cornerstone of USM - "world class" and now "world showpiece." It even overshadows the term "economic development" which seems to be almost catching up and is now almost nose to nose: "We absolutely remain committed to making this happen," she said. "Economi...

babbs

USM Departures, August 2004 thru July 2005 Becky Woodrick, Director of AA/EEOC (down-szed; situation pending) Total Leaving: 1 Total Retiring:

John Stossel

I walked all over campus yesterday, looking for the first issue of the Varsity Voice. All I ever came across was The Student Printz. What's up?

Doubtful

By now it is really apparent that LSM is pulling the Gnome's strings! We were warned of her power and yet we let her remain intact in the Dome. Now she has caused another fatality. WHY? WHY? WHY? She has to go!

Discombobulated

The deteriorating situation which has developed at USM reminds me of the story of a man who fell into a filthy cesspool. His head submerged down into the muck, then resurfaced, and the man yelled FIRE. The man's head submerged a second time, and a third time, and each time th...

truth4usm/AH

I just had to share these remarks from Chancellor Gee at Vanderbilt University to parents of new freshmen this past weekend on the value of a liberal arts education: Regardless of the major a student ultimately declares – a decision perhaps reached after consulting with parents, th...

truth4usm/AH

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040824/southernmissnews/1109109.html

Prophet

Reproduced below is an item from one of the message board threads that appeared well before the USM press release spin:was out concerning 4th tier status. This pre- spin posting suggests how very predictable USM's official position can be when bad news occurs: Sideshow Barker: All right, fellow...

Eagle

Anyone interested in renting billboard space at 49 and Hardy to advertise our new Tier 4 status. Something like: Southern Miss, now a tier 4 University Show the data from last year and this year comparing USM to other schools in the state. End with. Thanks Shelby.

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	I need retention rates (Preview) "retention rate" - the percentage of students that return after freshman year, and the percentage that graduate within a specified number of years. I really need these from the last 4 years, and I need them from a credible source rather than an anonymous poster here. Library? Magazine? W...	FatManWalking	7	440	Aug 30, 2004 by Robbie Ward
	Other Schools Have Problems Too (Preview) http://www.thegoosesnest.com/Blogs/thedailyegg/2004_06_27_thedailyegg_archive.html	Outside Observer	8	608	Aug 30, 2004 by Invictus
	Questions for next PUC meeting (Preview) This is a thread for questions that need to be raised at the next PUC meeting. I'll start: What is happening to USM's AA/EEOC office and why was Becky Woodrick given a terminal contract (in effect, fired)?	truth4usm/AH	21	900	Aug 30, 2004 by Lessons from Mama
	"Last Post" Lag.... (Preview) Could one of the computer savants explain why the "Last Post" column on the AAUP message board does not function properly? More specifically, the display of elapsed time since the last post for any given thread is so inaccurate as to be worthless, often lagging several hours beh...	Austin Eagle	6	450	Aug 30, 2004 by Austin Eagle
	Two interesting articles in the Chronicle 7/19 (Preview) Corporate-Style Leaders May Not Make the Best College Presidents, Business Expert Says Well, NSS! "Mr. Collins suggested that what he described as higher education's fixation on business culture may be counterproductive. Leaders who prosper in the business world, he said, in many cases ap...	Mediatracker	1	481	Aug 30, 2004 by Kickback
	See More #27 (Preview) This week's issue geocities.com/seemore004	See More	0	342	Aug 30, 2004 by See More
	Chow Down! (HA article du jour) (Preview) USM offers more variety in food service Not everything about outsourcing is bad: Southern Miss's food services employees were offered jobs with Aramark. Josephine Burkett and Diane Brown, who've worked together for 26 years, both transferred to Aramark. "It's been a big change," B...	Invictus	0	355	Aug 30, 2004 by Invictus
	Academic Questions (Preview) This is old news to most of you, but who invented this 2.5 hour academic week? Where did the other half hour go? Even adding a week to the semester doesn't make it up. I did teach at one school where the classes were 55 minutes, but elsewhere they are a full hour (or a full hour and a half....	New Adjunct	9	602	Aug 30, 2004 by adjuncter
	This is very Sad ( 1 2 ) (Preview) As you all probably realize I don't post here much anymore. The new job keeps me quite busy. But, I do read fairly often. What I am seeing here now is very sad. This group has taken mob mentality and morphed from being a group organized to oppose SFT, into a group that is determined to harm Southern Mis...	Seeker	41	1582	Aug 30, 2004 by Harvey
	CBED staying the course (Preview) The malcontents in CBED are finally leaving. Many of you have followed them rant and rave on this board for some time about Doty and others. Doty is doing yeoman work in CBED, and all these so-called mobile faculty are no longer in way of progress. Marc Depree is another malcontent...	oldprof	28	1246	Aug 29, 2004 by Seeker
	Next PC Meeting ( 1 2 ) (Preview) The following was on the Faculty Senate listserv today. Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:11:09 -0500 From: Ray Folse To: Facsen@usm.edu Reply-to: facsen@usm.edu Subject: [Facsen] Fwd: Re: [PresidentsCouncil] (no subject) >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:10:02 -0500 >To: presiden...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>	Reporter	30	984	Aug 29, 2004 by stephen judd
	Nom d'Aplomb Award, August 23 - 29 (Preview) As we begin with las menciones honorables, let's all remember that while it pays to be Street Wise in Chicago, it pays to be street wise at USM, too. The Pisces and Quarry Commission stressed the principal methods of research (fish & dig). And Pea under the mattresses is always a classic experimen...	Miss Information	1	321	Aug 29, 2004 by Edifice Complex
	US News New Ranking for USM ( 1 2 3 4 ) (Preview) Word from a friend at another university who gets an early glimpse at the rankings has told me that USM has fallen to the 4th tier in the national category. While these are easy to discount, many students look at them for guidance. UM and MSU are entrenched 3rd tier schools. I...	Southern Mess	93	2189	Aug 29, 2004 by stinky cheese man
	Spin City: HA sez no mass exodus (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/updates/8379.html	truth4usm/AH	27	886	Aug 29, 2004 by First Ant at the Picnic
	Another HA Letter speaking truth to power (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040829/opinion/1137094.html	Angeline	2	407	Aug 29, 2004 by USM Sympathizer
	HA Letter: USM official distorts facts (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040828/opinion/1130774.html	ram	20	730	Aug 28, 2004 by Lamont Cranston
	CL letter from Jonathan Barron (Preview) 'Dialogue' at USM actually one-sided Universities are charged with the task of teaching students the basic democratic values of American civilization. That is why public universities in all 50 states practice what they teach: They have democratic governance systems. Public universities in...	tvscene	4	635	Aug 28, 2004 by Reporter
	CL letter from Dennis Flynn (Preview) Conditions at USM must be reformed Now that due process has made clear and has remedied the injustice committed against Professors Frank Glamser and Gary Stringer, it is up to the members of the Mississippi College Board to acknowledge the simple truth of what these proceedings imply about the Un...	tvscene	1	526	Aug 28, 2004 by A dennis flynn fan
	One of my old threads re: the real goals of SFT (Preview) Having just read Jean Moulin's post on the main AAUP page, I thought it might be a good idea to retrieve this posting from the FS Board. Is there anything we can do about this move to turn USM from a great public resource into an engine of personal profit that only benefits a few? >What we have h...	Angeline	1	513	Aug 28, 2004 by NCAA All American
	joke's on . . . (Preview) You, Shelby. The VV, PUC, LSM's spins, and AD's waaaaaa's won't help your cause. Eagle talk comrades, chime in. This AAUP website is all about integrity and deconstructing spin!	STHM	0	371	Aug 28, 2004 by STHM
	Nursing program to increase enrollment? ( 1 2 ) (Preview) If the USM nursing program has lost the resources I have been led to believe it has lost, and its building is inadequate as I have been led to believe it is, how and why would it be increasing the number of new students, now and in the next enrollment period, as reported in today's Hattiesburg American? My...	Information Please	32	1166	Aug 28, 2004 by Austin Eagle
	Hattiesburg: The Silly-Con Valley of Mississippi (Preview) This morning I inadvertently stumbled on a website with which I am unfamilar. It is very well constructed (slicker than even the official USM website) and was evidently updated recently (it highlights the quote "We are proud to be ranked among schools like Alabama and Michigan State in the...	Site Visitor	11	553	Aug 28, 2004 by ewe
	A man's moral conscience . . . (Preview) Okay Noel Polk, now that I've got your attention, is it true? Have you quit? Are you going to Ole Miss?	Wllm Faulkner	29	1154	Aug 28, 2004 by Otherside
	Chronicle Almanac description (Preview) The Chronicle of Higher Education's 2004-5 Almanac Issue is out today. USM alone gets nearly half of the narrative devoted to describing the state of higher education in Mississippi. "Elsewhere, the president of the University of Southern Mississippi, Shelby F. Thames, angered many profes...	Chronicler	2	409	Aug 27, 2004 by Chronicler
	HATEFUL (Preview) A hateful web site if I ever saw one. You talk about balance, but nothing here is balanced. Thank you. GMC	GMC	8	662	Aug 27, 2004 by Emma
	Student Printz back online (Preview) For fans of the Student Printz, it's back online. Here is the URL: For now, you have to click on the headings ("News," "Features," etc.) in order to get the most recent stories. The front page should be up soon. There's a story on the reception for Hudson with these perfe...	truth4usm/AH	5	371	Aug 27, 2004 by Did I shave my legs for this?
	Hudson Reception (Preview) FYI: Bon voyage reception for Dr. Tim Hudson today from 3-5 in the Theatre and Dance Building lobby.	Reed	25	1114	Aug 27, 2004 by educator
	HA - Opinion - Mader's Remarks (Preview) I can't copy in a hot link -- need help from Hot Link -- check out the online HA for opinion on Mader's response to USNWR rankings.	Advocate	7	695	Aug 27, 2004 by truth4usm/AH
	Where is the daily rumour mill???? (Preview) I am very disappointed that gurunburg has been slack in posting his/her daily rumour mill...It is just about the only entertaining portion of this board...alot of the other posts are pretty ridiculous and at least gurunburg posts up some interesting bits of BS that allow people to chime in wi...	Where'sthebeef	1	431	Aug 27, 2004 by foot soldier
	Another University Chancellor Speaks (Preview) Inspiring words from Vanderbilt Chancellor Gordon Gee appeared yesterday. Today: two statements by LSU Interim Chancellor William L. Jenkins (Fall, 2004 Alumni Magazine): " . . . *winning a national championship in football . . . But, more importantly, we were also s...*	Hewey, Dewey, and Louie	0	393	Aug 26, 2004 by Hewey, Dewey, and Louie
	HA: USM Turnover rate steady (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040826/localnews/1121765.html	truth4usm/AH	5	585	Aug 26, 2004 by Lamarqueremark
	HA: USM leases Albertson's bldg (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040826/localnews/1121766.html	truth4usm/AH	0	390	Aug 26, 2004 by truth4usm/AH
	USM departures 8/26/2004 (Preview) USM Departures, August 2004 thru July 2005 Becky Woodrick, Director of AA/EEOC (down-sized; situation pending) Total Leaving: 1 Total Retiring:	babbs	0	319	Aug 26, 2004 by babbs
	MMS (Preview) Margaret Mary Sulentic, terminated after her 3rd year by Dana Thames, Carl Martray, and Jay Grimes (although passed by the UAC),has been the Associate Superintendent of C and I at the East Baton Rouge Parish since 2002. She has now been hired at Southern Univ. as an adjunct professor. EBR is pr...	nextstateover	2	437	Aug 25, 2004 by LVN
	Recommendation for Hattiesburg American (Preview) Hattiesburg American: I recommend that until you have full assurance that all press releases submitted to you from USM are accurate in every detail, they be placed in the "opinion" section of your paper rather than printed in the news or editorial sections. My head is still spinni...	Whirling Dervish	3	465	Aug 25, 2004 by foot soldier
	Opposition to Athletic Bond Issue (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040821/localnews/1088104.html	Angeline	15	764	Aug 25, 2004 by John and Rebecca desperate to be players
	Albertson’s not for Nursing (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/updates/8383.html	Reporter	3	390	Aug 25, 2004 by Big Sale Today: Brooklyn Bridge
	Enrollment (Preview) Just pulled rosters for my two classes that meet tomorrow, and both sections are over enrolled. What gives? We were told a class size that was already too big.	New Adjunct	22	876	Aug 25, 2004 by educator
	Anybody read the banner ads here? (Preview) I've heard of targeted internet marketing, but the last page view brought up a set of four ads that was spooky... "Custom Research $15/page: Original work - confidential service Guaranteed plagiarism-free. Call us" "Statistician: Statistics Help for Researchers, Students and Busine...	Invictus	1	331	Aug 25, 2004 by Austin Eagle
	Interesting tidbits from The Independent (Preview) "Southern Miss Chemistry Professor Chairs Science Conference in Maine" Pojman is the first professor in the Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry to ever chair a Gordon Research Conference and only the second one from Southern Miss. "UPSET Manufacturer Unhappy Ove...	Spin Doctor	8	631	Aug 25, 2004 by Spin Doctor
	daily rumor mill #85 ( 1 2 ) (Preview) 1. Interim Provost named (Provost Grimes), and a new committee formed to do a "national search" for a new one. Word is (as reported on this board and supported by my operatives) that many of the committee's "members" found out when they saw the press release, while others received surprise cal...	gurunuburg	58	1770	Aug 25, 2004 by Invictus
	World Showpiece to be at USM (Preview) The word "world" seems to be the cornerstone of USM - "world class" and now "world showpiece." It even overshadows the term "economic development" which seems to be almost catching up and is now almost nose to nose: "We absolutely remain committed to making this happen," she said. "Economi...	Wild and Worldly	5	433	Aug 25, 2004 by Medicinal Laughter
	USM departures 8/24/2004 (Preview) USM Departures, August 2004 thru July 2005 Becky Woodrick, Director of AA/EEOC (down-szed; situation pending) Total Leaving: 1 Total Retiring:	babbs	12	651	Aug 25, 2004 by Even sadder
	Where's the Varsity Voice? (Preview) I walked all over campus yesterday, looking for the first issue of the Varsity Voice. All I ever came across was The Student Printz. What's up?	John Stossel	3	436	Aug 25, 2004 by Miss Administration
	THE MADER EMPIRE (Preview) By now it is really apparent that LSM is pulling the Gnome's strings! We were warned of her power and yet we let her remain intact in the Dome. Now she has caused another fatality. WHY? WHY? WHY? She has to go!	Doubtful	16	746	Aug 25, 2004 by View from a Distance
	Fire! Fire! (Preview) The deteriorating situation which has developed at USM reminds me of the story of a man who fell into a filthy cesspool. His head submerged down into the muck, then resurfaced, and the man yelled FIRE. The man's head submerged a second time, and a third time, and each time th...	Discombobulated	0	384	Aug 24, 2004 by Discombobulated
	The value of a liberal arts education (Preview) I just had to share these remarks from Chancellor Gee at Vanderbilt University to parents of new freshmen this past weekend on the value of a liberal arts education: Regardless of the major a student ultimately declares – a decision perhaps reached after consulting with parents, th...	truth4usm/AH	7	505	Aug 24, 2004 by MHD's mom
	HA: Becky Woodrick out of a job (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040824/southernmissnews/1109109.html	truth4usm/AH	7	603	Aug 24, 2004 by foot soldier
	Prophecy (Preview) Reproduced below is an item from one of the message board threads that appeared well before the USM press release spin:was out concerning 4th tier status. This pre- spin posting suggests how very predictable USM's official position can be when bad news occurs: Sideshow Barker: All right, fellow...	Prophet	0	373	Aug 24, 2004 by Prophet
	Billboard (Preview) Anyone interested in renting billboard space at 49 and Hardy to advertise our new Tier 4 status. Something like: Southern Miss, now a tier 4 University Show the data from last year and this year comparing USM to other schools in the state. End with. Thanks Shelby.	Eagle	4	478	Aug 24, 2004 by Mover and Shaker
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