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Liberal Arts Alum

Echoing the thread about the COAL dean's cowardness, I am far away from USM (out in the mountains of the west), yet I am AMAZED and STUNNED that the College of Business, of all folks, are leading this fight in the final stages to its ultimate conclusion, hopefully an endgame next week or the following mo...

Mitch

A Mr. Carrigan, an attorney and member of the Colorado Board of Regents just appeared on CNN. He said the the board would not fire Mr. Churchill at UC (though he strongly disagreed with Churchill's statements) despite Governor Owen's order to do so, and that both the state and boa...

Website Scavenger

28 January 2005 Provost Jay Grimes Box 5002 Dear Provost Grimes, I have been directed by Academic Council to write to you concerning your recent permission to allow the Customer Service Department to override enrollment caps on classes offered on the Gulf Coast c...

the final word?

THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI Interoffice Correspondence President’s Office Box 5001  

Website Scavenger

2 February 2005 Provost Jay Grimes Box 5002 Dear Provost Grimes, We have been directed by Academic Council to write in protest of the recent actions that have resulted in new/modified degree programs, moved majors, and renaming of departments and colleges without going t...

Reporter

"Thames Put USM at Risk" Amy Young's Editorial appears in the hard copy, but not the on-line version, of today's Hattiesburg American. A very brief synopsis: She mentions that faculty are serving on committees to save USM from SACS probation in spite of the fact that "service" is n...

Typist

"USM may change direction of College of Business" The administration of the University of Southern Mississippi has instructed the College of Business to move the department in a different direction, a direction that the Dean believes will adversely affect the University accreditation and da...

Albert

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050211/OPINION03/502110303/1014/OPINION

Albert

From time to time I am going to repost old posts from this board so that new faculty can read them in case they were missed. I will be doing this because there are two people in particular here who do not want you to see various opinions of other posters, faculty, or students. I will begin the subject line wi...

bb mac

Chad Cornett, former SGA shill, was just on WDAM speaking to a group of business leaders/realtors about work the ED Dept at USM did looking at absorption rates etc. in Hattiesburg apartment markets. He kept talking about "surveys," "statistical analysis," "logarithmic formulas" etc.&nb...

Albert

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/thesunherald/news/editorial/10871584.htm

Croupier

House Kills USM Casino Course Plans This item is on tonight's (Feb. 10) WDAM website. What implications, if any, does this have for USM?

PsychoBaBBle

Under the following assumptions: 1) We want Thames removed from the dome. 2) Anything that makes Thames look good prolongs our agony. 3) We are willing to act rationally to achieve our end. What tactics could be used to get him out? There is a poll posted asking about the most drastic course...

Beatle

Just heard that there is another (earlier) letter from Grimes to Doty circulating in the COB. Can someone confirm?

Jackson Eagle

The fourth and fifth paragraphs of this editorial that appeared in today's Clarion-Ledger is particulartly interesting: Barbour plan to strip workers of due process smacks of Bilboism

Elections Moderator

Please vote in this important USM t-shirts poll. Your vote may have shape the next line of clothing.

Pa Bell

In March 2005, Mississippi will receive its fourth area code. This new area code will overlay the existing 601 area code region. Because both area codes will work in the same geographic region, 10-digit dialing - the area code plus the 7-digit telephone number - will be necessary for al...

Frederique

I know she needs to spend time on her hair before making public statements, but this is ridiculous.

Outside Observer

from Doty's letter: "I realize that there may be legal difficulties surrounding the hiring of a new department chair for Tourism Management. As I have previously stated, I believe that gender was used as a motivating factor when an offer of employment was not extended to a previous can...

Molten

nm

Reporter

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050208/NEWS01/50208003

polster

Watch what you say around General Blount. Heard this advice through the grapevine. Don't have watercooler conversations around him at all.

Rumor

I heard a rumor that should interest Robert Campbell. Robert has speculated as to why The Sun Herald has not covered any of this news about USM. About all they give out are USM sports news and scores. The rumor I heard is that they may be in partnership with USM in produc...

concerned student #2

Did any of you guys catch Ward Churchill's speech on CSPAN yesterday. Man, this fruitloop makes some of you look like angels. In a weird sort of way, it is comforting to know that USM is not the only school whose faculty causes problems.

Outside Observer

I think what you may have here is a severe case of goal displacement. Apparently, in MS universities are rewarded based on the number of students enrolled. The admin. emphasizes this frequently...our goal is to reach 20,000 students...concerned about MBA enrollment...compete wit...

Cox-Purvis Report

With last night's loss, the USM Eagles have fallen to #225 in the latest Sagarin Poll. At this rate, a trip to the 300th position is possible. Next up, a visit from Houston. This is a must win game for the Eagles. After that, a trip to Cincy. Bring the gauze. ...

Jameela Lares

The Chroniclehttp://www.e-guana.net/organizations.php3?orgid=104&typeID=906&action=printContentItem&itemID=10395&test=test&User_Sess...

Wing Man

I understand from a very reliable source that the plane purchase is being rushed to completion for a trip to be scheduled real soon and that trip is not for University business. Although one of the purchasers will be on board that trip it will include SFT. Now who will pay the costs of the tr...

867-5309

Everyone needs to read "Advice to a Postulant-Professor" by Jacob Neusner. It appeared in the September 1987 issue of Chronicles magazine (pp. 23-26). Can someone who knows alot of Internet find it and post it?

Angeline

http://clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050210/NEWS01/502100411/1002

Angeline

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050210/NEWS01/502100303/1002

Phoenix Grad Student

2/4/05 Dr. D. Jay Grimes Provost The University of Southern Mississippi 118 College Drive # 5002 Hattiesburg, MS 39406 Dear Provost Grimes: I am in receipt of your letter dated February 3, 2005 detailing your recollection of our meeting on January 21, 20...

Adam Smith's Abacus' Placement

A couple of things to help set the record straight about the CoB and USM: First, the CoB faculty have never been on SFT's side. Former Dean Gunther was one of the most outspoken critics of Thames, and his opposition earned him a demotion. CoB Faculty Senators have been outspoken in their oppositio...

Elections Moderator

Please vote in the important poll on Thames' Court. Your vote matters.

Town Cruller

I just got a phone call that Doty's response letter is public via FOIA.

Outside Observer

On which day will Doty be removed as dean of cob? I'll take Friday Feb 18.

why we fight

WWF - Why We Fight offers 60 audio reminders of why Thames must go. The link is http://www.geocities.com/wwfwhywefight/index.html. More reminders will be posted as they become available.

Shawn Finney

My Green Wave got sweet revenge tonight, taking out the Eagles 75-72. Good luck the rest of the way.

all in same boat

Now that the full letter from Grimes is posted on line via the American and in print in their printed edition let me officially welcome my colleagues in College of Business to the world of Arts and Letters. Welcome aboard. Please disregard Grimes insistence that you all should only do applied res...

Elections Moderator

Please participate in this important 'job search' poll. Your vote adds to the total.

Robert Campbell

I've posted a quick update on Liberty and Power, mentioning Dean Doty's response to the Black Friday memo: http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/10139.html I still have some other developments to catch up on (such as Shelby Thames' hypocritical assurances to the PUC about AACSB accreditation).&n...

Insider

Titanic Deck Chair Attendant

The administration giving SACS the middle finger with this executive MBA program. What is driving this obsession with getting this distance MBA off the ground by August? I think a second year of probation has just been assured. USM is doing the one thing SACS really hates–acting as institu...

Robert Campbell

I've posted to Liberty and Power about the Grimes memo (and Grimes' comments as quoted in the Kevin Walters article): http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/10129.html Robert Campbell

Albert

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050208/OPINION03/502080331/1014/OPINION

In the News

Can anyone who attended the PUC meeting this morning provide an update?

Carnac

ANSWER: USM QUESTION: What are the initials for "University that Shelby's Murdered."

Choose one: SACS or USM

If SACS reaccredits USM under the deplorable conditions that exist on this campus, then SACS is not worthy of serving as the regional accreditation authority. USM's reputation depends on cleaning up this mess at the earliest possible time. SACS reputation depends on its making a fair decis...

Amy Young

I just picked up the Wed. issue of the Hattiesburg American. The front page contains a story entitled "USM dean, provost at odds over program" and it's a really good story. It states that the letter from Grimes should be available online, but it isn't yet. Most telling to me is th...

Dome Housekeeping Dept.

Dear Staff Council Members, Tuesday night the Faculty Senate took a vote to send to the IHL Board of Trustees a resolution asking that they begin a search for a new president at Southern Miss. I was shocked and saddened by their action. I thought we had finally gotten beyond all the crit...

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	hard to believe (Preview) Echoing the thread about the COAL dean's cowardness, I am far away from USM (out in the mountains of the west), yet I am AMAZED and STUNNED that the College of Business, of all folks, are leading this fight in the final stages to its ultimate conclusion, hopefully an endgame next week or the following mo...	Liberal Arts Alum	0	290	Feb 11, 2005 by Liberal Arts Alum
	How much is that boardy in the window? (Preview) A Mr. Carrigan, an attorney and member of the Colorado Board of Regents just appeared on CNN. He said the the board would not fire Mr. Churchill at UC (though he strongly disagreed with Churchill's statements) despite Governor Owen's order to do so, and that both the state and boa...	Mitch	26	854	Feb 11, 2005 by ram
	Academic Council Letter to Grimes: Enrollment Cap (Preview) 28 January 2005 Provost Jay Grimes Box 5002 Dear Provost Grimes, I have been directed by Academic Council to write to you concerning your recent permission to allow the Customer Service Department to override enrollment caps on classes offered on the Gulf Coast c...	Website Scavenger	1	459	Feb 11, 2005 by foot soldier
	response from Thames (Preview) THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI Interoffice Correspondence *President’s Office* Box 5001	the final word?	15	838	Feb 11, 2005 by Slow Poke
	Academic Council Letter to Grimes: SACS/Accredit. (Preview) 2 February 2005 Provost Jay Grimes Box 5002 Dear Provost Grimes, We have been directed by Academic Council to write in protest of the recent actions that have resulted in new/modified degree programs, moved majors, and renaming of departments and colleges without going t...	Website Scavenger	0	314	Feb 11, 2005 by Website Scavenger
	Amy Young's Editorial ( 1 2 ) (Preview) "Thames Put USM at Risk" Amy Young's Editorial appears in the hard copy, but not the on-line version, of today's Hattiesburg American. A very brief synopsis: She mentions that faculty are serving on committees to save USM from SACS probation in spite of the fact that "service" is n...	Reporter	32	1492	Feb 11, 2005 by Kickback
	Independent article about COB here... (Preview) "USM may change direction of College of Business" The administration of the University of Southern Mississippi has instructed the College of Business to move the department in a different direction, a direction that the Dean believes will adversely affect the University accreditation and da...	Typist	24	871	Feb 11, 2005 by Good for goose, good for gander
	Hatt.Amer.: From fat cats to convicts! (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050211/OPINION03/502110303/1014/OPINION	Albert	3	489	Feb 11, 2005 by USM Sympathizer
	Plan to post old messages with differing viewpoint (Preview) From time to time I am going to repost old posts from this board so that new faculty can read them in case they were missed. I will be doing this because there are two people in particular here who do not want you to see various opinions of other posters, faculty, or students. I will begin the subject line wi...	Albert	0	231	Feb 11, 2005 by Albert
	Chad Cornett on WDAM... uuuugh.... (Preview) Chad Cornett, former SGA shill, was just on WDAM speaking to a group of business leaders/realtors about work the ED Dept at USM did looking at absorption rates etc. in Hattiesburg apartment markets. He kept talking about "surveys," "statistical analysis," "logarithmic formulas" etc.&nb...	bb mac	12	698	Feb 11, 2005 by Aaron Carter
	Too many school districts and superintendents (Preview) http://www.sunherald.com/mld/thesunherald/news/editorial/10871584.htm	Albert	0	260	Feb 11, 2005 by Albert
	House Kills USM Casino Course Plans (Preview) House Kills USM Casino Course Plans This item is on tonight's (Feb. 10) WDAM website. What implications, if any, does this have for USM?	Croupier	6	475	Feb 11, 2005 by Blackjack
	Brainstorming Session (Preview) Under the following assumptions: 1) We want Thames removed from the dome. 2) Anything that makes Thames look good prolongs our agony. 3) We are willing to act rationally to achieve our end. What tactics could be used to get him out? There is a poll posted asking about the most drastic course...	PsychoBaBBle	14	918	Feb 11, 2005 by Kickback
	Oh $**t! Another Grimes letter circulating in COB! ( 1 2 3 ) (Preview) Just heard that there is another (earlier) letter from Grimes to Doty circulating in the COB. Can someone confirm?	Beatle	65	4394	Feb 11, 2005 by H&R
	Due process (Preview) The fourth and fifth paragraphs of this editorial that appeared in today's Clarion-Ledger is particulartly interesting: Barbour plan to strip workers of due process smacks of Bilboism	Jackson Eagle	0	282	Feb 11, 2005 by Jackson Eagle
	Important 'USM t-shirts' Poll --- Please Vote (Preview) Please vote in this important USM t-shirts poll. Your vote may have shape the next line of clothing.	Elections Moderator	3	352	Feb 11, 2005 by Two time loser
	New Area Code (Preview) In March 2005, Mississippi will receive its fourth area code. This new area code will overlay the existing 601 area code region. Because both area codes will work in the same geographic region, 10-digit dialing - the area code plus the 7-digit telephone number - will be necessary for al...	Pa Bell	0	265	Feb 10, 2005 by Pa Bell
	Where is Robin Robinson? (Preview) I know she needs to spend time on her hair before making public statements, but this is ridiculous.	Frederique	9	676	Feb 10, 2005 by I'm bAAAck
	Legal Difficulties??? (Preview) from Doty's letter: "I realize that there may be legal difficulties surrounding the hiring of a new department chair for Tourism Management. As I have previously stated, I believe that gender was used as a motivating factor when an offer of employment was not extended to a previous can...	Outside Observer	18	987	Feb 10, 2005 by truth4usm/AH
	Truth, check your e-mail (Preview) nm	Molten	3	385	Feb 10, 2005 by truth4usm/AH
	Sorority village ( 1 2 ) (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050208/NEWS01/50208003	Reporter	46	1582	Feb 10, 2005 by Incognegro
	advice to COAL faculty (Preview) Watch what you say around General Blount. Heard this advice through the grapevine. Don't have watercooler conversations around him at all.	polster	0	302	Feb 10, 2005 by polster
	The Sun Herald (Preview) I heard a rumor that should interest Robert Campbell. Robert has speculated as to why The Sun Herald has not covered any of this news about USM. About all they give out are USM sports news and scores. The rumor I heard is that they may be in partnership with USM in produc...	Rumor	27	821	Feb 10, 2005 by Robert Campbell
	Univ. Colorado Ward Churchill humiliates school (Preview) Did any of you guys catch Ward Churchill's speech on CSPAN yesterday. Man, this fruitloop makes some of you look like angels. In a weird sort of way, it is comforting to know that USM is not the only school whose faculty causes problems.	concerned student #2	6	478	Feb 10, 2005 by First Ant at the Picnic
	An organization gets what it inspects, not expects (Preview) I think what you may have here is a severe case of goal displacement. Apparently, in MS universities are rewarded based on the number of students enrolled. The admin. emphasizes this frequently...our goal is to reach 20,000 students...concerned about MBA enrollment...compete wit...	Outside Observer	2	406	Feb 10, 2005 by I'm bAAAck
	Eagles BBall --- Falling Fast (Preview) With last night's loss, the USM Eagles have fallen to #225 in the latest Sagarin Poll. At this rate, a trip to the 300th position is possible. Next up, a visit from Houston. This is a must win game for the Eagles. After that, a trip to Cincy. Bring the gauze. ...	Cox-Purvis Report	0	240	Feb 10, 2005 by Cox-Purvis Report
	Benefits of Higher Education (Preview) The Chroniclehttp://www.e-guana.net/organizations.php3?orgid=104&typeID=906&action=printContentItem&itemID=10395&test=test&User_Sess...	Jameela Lares	7	494	Feb 10, 2005 by LVN
	Boss, Boss, the plane! (Preview) I understand from a very reliable source that the plane purchase is being rushed to completion for a trip to be scheduled real soon and that trip is not for University business. Although one of the purchasers will be on board that trip it will include SFT. Now who will pay the costs of the tr...	Wing Man	2	391	Feb 10, 2005 by foot soldier
	required reading --- need help (Preview) Everyone needs to read "Advice to a Postulant-Professor" by Jacob Neusner. It appeared in the September 1987 issue of Chronicles magazine (pp. 23-26). Can someone who knows alot of Internet find it and post it?	867-5309	0	339	Feb 10, 2005 by 867-5309
	C-L carries the CoB story (Preview) http://clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050210/NEWS01/502100411/1002	Angeline	7	668	Feb 10, 2005 by Robert Campbell
	Doty in the HA Today (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050210/NEWS01/502100303/1002	Angeline	7	633	Feb 10, 2005 by USM Sympathizer
	Better Copy of Doty's Response ( 1 2 3 ) (Preview) 2/4/05 Dr. D. Jay Grimes Provost The University of Southern Mississippi 118 College Drive # 5002 Hattiesburg, MS 39406 Dear Provost Grimes: I am in receipt of your letter dated February 3, 2005 detailing your recollection of our meeting on January 21, 20...	Phoenix Grad Student	60	5979	Feb 10, 2005 by Smooth talking, good looking man
	College of Business -- Set the Record Straight (Preview) A couple of things to help set the record straight about the CoB and USM: First, the CoB faculty have never been on SFT's side. Former Dean Gunther was one of the most outspoken critics of Thames, and his opposition earned him a demotion. CoB Faculty Senators have been outspoken in their oppositio...	Adam Smith's Abacus' Placement	11	690	Feb 10, 2005 by Green Hornet
	Important 'Shelby's Krewe' Poll --- Please Vote (Preview) Please vote in the important poll on Thames' Court. Your vote matters.	Elections Moderator	17	702	Feb 10, 2005 by truth4usm/AH
	Doty's Reponse Letter Public! (Preview) I just got a phone call that Doty's response letter is public via FOIA.	Town Cruller	16	914	Feb 10, 2005 by Question
	Message Board Pool (Preview) On which day will Doty be removed as dean of cob? I'll take Friday Feb 18.	Outside Observer	17	605	Feb 9, 2005 by foot soldier
	never forget ( 1 2 ) (Preview) WWF - Why We Fight offers 60 audio reminders of why Thames must go. The link is http://www.geocities.com/wwfwhywefight/index.html. More reminders will be posted as they become available.	why we fight	43	2165	Feb 9, 2005 by Pepsodent
	I just spanked Eustachy (Preview) My Green Wave got sweet revenge tonight, taking out the Eagles 75-72. Good luck the rest of the way.	Shawn Finney	7	364	Feb 9, 2005 by Kick me hard
	comments on grimes letter ( 1 2 ) (Preview) Now that the full letter from Grimes is posted on line via the American and in print in their printed edition let me officially welcome my colleagues in College of Business to the world of Arts and Letters. Welcome aboard. Please disregard Grimes insistence that you all should only do applied res...	all in same boat	32	1500	Feb 9, 2005 by USM Sympathizer
	Important 'Job Search' Poll --- Please Vote (Preview) Please participate in this important 'job search' poll. Your vote adds to the total.	Elections Moderator	0	274	Feb 9, 2005 by Elections Moderator
	L and P on Doty's response (Preview) I've posted a quick update on Liberty and Power, mentioning Dean Doty's response to the Black Friday memo: http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/10139.html I still have some other developments to catch up on (such as Shelby Thames' hypocritical assurances to the PUC about AACSB accreditation).&n...	Robert Campbell	8	517	Feb 9, 2005 by Stranger Than Fiction
	Shelby Thames spotted at COB (Preview)	Insider	3	490	Feb 9, 2005 by I'm bAAAck
	CoB/SACS (Preview) The administration giving SACS the middle finger with this executive MBA program. What is driving this obsession with getting this distance MBA off the ground by August? I think a second year of probation has just been assured. USM is doing the one thing SACS really hates–acting as institu...	Titanic Deck Chair Attendant	3	410	Feb 9, 2005 by truth4usm/AH
	Liberty and Power on the Grimes Memo (Preview) I've posted to Liberty and Power about the Grimes memo (and Grimes' comments as quoted in the Kevin Walters article): http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/10129.html Robert Campbell	Robert Campbell	10	493	Feb 9, 2005 by USM Sympathizer
	HA Article! (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050208/OPINION03/502080331/1014/OPINION	Albert	10	662	Feb 9, 2005 by Blast from the past
	PUC meeting, any news? (Preview) Can anyone who attended the PUC meeting this morning provide an update?	In the News	7	549	Feb 9, 2005 by truth4usm/AH
	Carnac weighs in (Preview) ANSWER: USM QUESTION: What are the initials for "University that Shelby's Murdered."	Carnac	4	316	Feb 9, 2005 by Carnac
	Multiple Choice (Preview) If SACS reaccredits USM under the deplorable conditions that exist on this campus, then SACS is not worthy of serving as the regional accreditation authority. USM's reputation depends on cleaning up this mess at the earliest possible time. SACS reputation depends on its making a fair decis...	Choose one: SACS or USM	4	380	Feb 9, 2005 by USM Sympathizer
	HA story about COB (Preview) I just picked up the Wed. issue of the Hattiesburg American. The front page contains a story entitled "USM dean, provost at odds over program" and it's a really good story. It states that the letter from Grimes should be available online, but it isn't yet. Most telling to me is th...	Amy Young	14	641	Feb 9, 2005 by Tip of the iceburg
	Polly's Love Letter (Preview) Dear Staff Council Members, Tuesday night the Faculty Senate took a vote to send to the IHL Board of Trustees a resolution asking that they begin a search for a new president at Southern Miss. I was shocked and saddened by their action. I thought we had finally gotten beyond all the crit...	Dome Housekeeping Dept.	26	971	Feb 9, 2005 by Robert Campbell
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