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"Thames Put USM at Risk"


Amy Young's Editorial appears in the hard copy, but not the on-line version, of today's Hattiesburg American.  A very brief synopsis:


She mentions that faculty are serving on committees to save USM from SACS probation in spite of the fact that "service" is not valued by the Thames administration.  She list some of the problems caused by Thames and how they relate to SACS issues.  She concludes that Thames should have been removed long ago because of his 2.5 years of misjudgments and it would be unfortunate if the efforts of the faculty save him his job.


 


 



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Class SACS

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I copied below Class SACS's post from another thread because it was so much better.  Reporter


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This morning's article in the Hattiesburg American, "Thames put USM at risk" by Amy Young makes me proud to know her, even indirectly.



Dr. Young explains why she and others are stepping up to help with the SACS problem.  My summary and translation of her words is loosely converted to because it is the right thing to do.  She clearly states that the faculty who are working diligently to get the University of Southern Mississippi off of academic probation may be doing so at great personal risk and in opposition to the Thames administration.  She acknowledges that their efforts may end up saving his floundering  presidency.  Yet she and other faculty serve because they care more about the university than any individual administration.  Wow!



More pressure on the rest of us to spread the message, Thames has failed and the faculty are indeed rising to the challenge.



Kudos Dr. Young, you are a class act.



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Robert Campbell

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This is wonderful news!


I had some doubts whether the Hat Am would publish anything like this, after the recent editorial exhorting the USM faculty to knuckle under to the Thames regime, pull together and save the institution.


I hope we'll be able to see the whole text at some point.  I never see the hard copy of the Hattiesburg American and I want to quote Amy's op ed on Liberty and Power.


Robert Campbell



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Reporter

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Robert, I will keep checking to see it the electronic version ever gets online. In the past guest editorials sometimes appeared only in the hard copy and other times both.  Maybe Kevin Walters can supply this.

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Emma

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If they are Amy's words - perhaps she will post them here for those of us too far away.

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Music patron

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Amy Young,


 


You continue to demonstrate that you are a hero among heroes, many of  whom must remain nameless.



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Not on scholaship

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Are those who are "stepping up to the plate" doing so as walk-ons (volunteers) or where they conscripted?

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USM patriot

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Dr. Young's full text:


Many faculty members have been asked and have already agreed to serve on committees whose purposes are to address the issues that have resulted in probation for USM by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS).  In effect, faculty members are being asked to engage in even more service activities.  They agreed and will agree to be involved in SACS accreditation issues because of a deep commitment to USM, students, and higher education in Mississippi. 


 


This type of service, the “diligent, active participation of faculty members,” is essential to accreditation and success of the university.  However, meaningful engagement in important service activities has not been recognized by the Thames Administration as valuable in awarding tenure, promotion, or merit raises.  Thus, faculty members have to ask, “Should I work on those professional endeavors that are rewarded by Thames Administration (such as securing grants and contracts and “buying” myself out of teaching), or should I work diligently to help USM constructively address the issues that have resulted in probation by SACS?  If my choice is the latter, I risk denial of tenure and promotion or raises, or unsatisfactory annual reviews that may trigger a post-tenure review.”


 


Most faculty members have been basically excluded from providing input into major decisions for the entire two and one-half years of the Thames Administration.  They have had miniscule roles in formulating major goals for the university or in planning and implementing strategies to achieve goals.  Faculty organizations such as AAUP USM and the Faculty Senate have been expressing concern for two and one-half years that faculty members have been excluded from meaningful roles in determining the priorities of our university.  In this context, members of AAUP USM find it ironic that the Thames Administration is now urging faculty to help repair the probation wreckage and devote considerable time to the reaffirmation of accreditation process.


 


Why was USM placed on SACS probation?  We believe it is because the Thames Administration failed to recognize that maintaining the accreditation of our university is one of the most important responsibilities an administration has.  Simply put, the Thames Administration devoted its energies to other “priorities” such as reducing colleges from nine to five without faculty input, firing good deans who were knowledgeable about accreditation, and attempting to terminate dedicated tenured faculty.  The misjudgments and failures of the Thames Administration have put USM in jeopardy.  And then the Thames Administration has had the audacity to put a “spin” on its misjudgments and failures in order to deflect the blame to others.    


 


Despite obstacles from the Thames Administration, faculty members recognize that resolving the accreditation issues must take precedence over other challenges currently facing USM.  But as members of AAUP USM, we strongly disagree with the statement in the January 5 editorial in the Hattiesburg American that “how Thames manages the accreditation issue may well determine his future as president of Southern Miss.”  Rather, we believe how USM faculty rise to the challenge may well determine the character of our university for years to come.  We also believe that the future of the Thames presidency should have already been determined by a two and one-half year track record of missteps and controversies.  It will be unfortunate if the efforts of faculty members help to extend the Thames presidency.  Based on a two and one-half year performance, real accountability standards by the Board of Trustees would have already returned Dr. Thames to his status as a successful scientist.


 



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foot soldier

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Great editorial, Dr. Young! Have they fixed your computer problems yet? I bet this will guarrantee they won't even change a lightbulb in your office. We're all with you!

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educator

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Amy Young, I truly admire you.

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Moose & Rocko

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Originally posted by: Not on scholaship

"Are those who are "stepping up to the plate" doing so as walk-ons (volunteers) or where they conscripted? "


She was conscripted, Not on Scholarship.  We told Amy that if she didn't write something critical of SFT we would do a knee job on her.  It was an offer she couldn't refuse.  Of course we had to proof every word to make sure it wasn't a girlie article.


 



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Robert Campbell

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I've put the entire text of Amy's editorial on Liberty and Power at

http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/9495.html

It deserves to be read by a wider audience.

Robert Campbell

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Sunday Comics

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Originally posted by: Moose & Rocko
" She was conscripted, Not on Scholarship.  We told Amy that if she didn't write something critical of SFT we would do a knee job on her."




Not on Scholarship was obviously referring to being conscripted to work on SACS. Not on Scholarship was obviously not referring to being conscripted to write a guest editorial.

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Rocko

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Originally posted by: Sunday Comics

"Not on Scholarship was obviously referring to being conscripted to work on SACS. Not on Scholarship was obviously not referring to being conscripted to write a guest editorial. "

I told Moose that, but he wouldn't listen.

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truth4usm/AH

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This is simply awesome...Amy Young, you are to be commended for taking this brave stance.  I'm proud to know you!

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toga

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Could someone post this editorial?  I do not have access.  I am in Alabama.

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Flash Gordon

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Originally posted by: toga

"Could someone post this editorial?  I do not have access.  I am in Alabama."


It's posted above in this thread.

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Anne Wallace

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just adding my voice to others--

Amy, this is absolutely right on the mark, and at just the right time.

Bravo.

NO QUARTER.
Anne Wallace

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Invictus

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When Mrs. Invictus -- yes, there is one & yes, she thinks I'm nuts -- read Amy Young's editorial, she commented, "This lady is either trying to get fired or she is very brave." I opined that Dr. Young is very brave ... and very determined.

Thank you, Amy, for saying what needed to be said. People outside the university need to know that the faculty is ready, willing & able to help the institution recover from the SACS probation. And folks need to know that the faculty will do this not out of loyalty to (or fear of) Shelby Thames but out of loyalty to the University of Southern Mississippi.

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ALUMNI 2

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IF AMY. ANNE. JAMELA, ETC CAN ALL SPEAK UP, THEN WHERE IS THE REST OF THE FACULTY? THEY STILL HAVE THEIR JOBS. WHAT RETRIBUTION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE THEY FACED? I AM NOT A TROLL, I REALLY AM JUST CURIOUS.

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Robert Campbell

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I actually don't think that Shelby Thames is going to call any more tenured faculty members into his office and tell them they're fired.


I suspect the IHL Board has told him not to even think about doing that any more, as the Board's reputation began its downward tumble when he attempted to fire Frank Glamser and Gary Stringer.


I also doubt that SFT is going to try any more dirty tricks with annual contracts... There was much apprehension about "forgetting" to issue contracts, etc., yet nothing was reported on this board during the summer of 2004.  Such dirty tricks will end up getting covered in the newspaper, and I think this is why SFT didn't resort to them in 2004.


While I consider outright firings of tenured faculty unlikely, I don't claim certainty and no one else could either.  Thames may act completely irrationally if he gets in a big enough jam.  (And I am not subject to Thames' authority, so I incur little risk if I turn out to be wrong.)


Lesser forms of punishment, such as sudden increases in teaching load and negative evaluations ordered up by higher-level administrators, are much more likely.


Untenured faculty, on the other hand, can count on being fired if they criticize the Thames regime in public.  The same goes for staff people or non-academic administrators.  And as several have noted recently, the administrators who have faculty titles had better be ready to return to faculty work.


Robert Campbell



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LVN

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If you have a solid academic reputation in your field (as I know Anne and Jameela both do, am not familiar with Dr. Young's work, but she is a bit more tied to the region) and you don't have kids in college in Mississippi, etc etc then there is a smidge more freedom for you. As an adjunct this past term, I did not breathe word one to any of my students, because I knew that teachers could be, and had been, pulled out of classes in mid-semester and never mind about the poor students. I knew that if they could get rid of Gary Stringer and Frank Glamser, I had zero protection if I had been (mis)quoted at any point.
ALUMNI 2 makes a valid point, that more people probably could speak up, but we have had this debate before. A lot of folks have already fallen on their swords, and frankly it hasn't done a lot of good. They are gone, and SFT is still here.

ALUMNI 2, it's up to YOU and your FELLOW ALUMS, and STUDENTS and PARENTS to take up the fight.

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LVN

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Oh, and when I did come on board, my personnel folder was dismantled in the Dean's office and items were "lost" - a bold staffer went down there and made a ruckus so that I got entered on the system and paid.
There are all kinds of ways to get at people.

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Done Enough

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Originally posted by: ALUMNI 2

"IF AMY. ANNE. JAMELA, ETC CAN ALL SPEAK UP, THEN WHERE IS THE REST OF THE FACULTY? THEY STILL HAVE THEIR JOBS. WHAT RETRIBUTION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE THEY FACED? I AM NOT A TROLL, I REALLY AM JUST CURIOUS."


One hundred percent of the Faculty Senate spoke up last spring. Ninety three percent of the faculty voting spoke up last spring. The people who have really dropped the ball are the alumni, and they are the ones who will live with the fruits of their decision for the next twenty years. Faculty members can and will move on. Over 200 already have.

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The Rock

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To quote LVN:


"ALUMNI 2, it's up to YOU and your FELLOW ALUMS, and STUDENTS and PARENTS to take up the fight."


That about sums it up.  Until the alumni start paying attention to the train wreck that Shelby has made of USM, nothing significant is going to change.  Perhaps when the alumni (and parents of current students) realize that their USM diplomas are about to worth less than a diploma from Jackson State, Delta State, Alcorn State, and other "regional" schools that somehow manage to avoid losing accredidation, they'll say something to people that matter.  I don't know what more the faculty can do at this point - it's time for the taxpayers to make their voices heard.  Or send their kids to Mississippi Valley State.....    



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Angeline

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Originally posted by: The Rock

"To quote LVN: "ALUMNI 2, it's up to YOU and your FELLOW ALUMS, and STUDENTS and PARENTS to take up the fight." That about sums it up.  Until the alumni start paying attention to the train wreck that Shelby has made of USM, nothing significant is going to change.  Perhaps when the alumni (and parents of current students) realize that their USM diplomas are about to worth less than a diploma from Jackson State, Delta State, Alcorn State, and other "regional" schools that somehow manage to avoid losing accredidation, they'll say something to people that matter.  I don't know what more the faculty can do at this point - it's time for the taxpayers to make their voices heard.  Or send their kids to Mississippi Valley State.....    "

Both The Rock and Done Enough are right.  Most faculty members are now in self-preservation mode, meaning that many are seeking ways out of USM (with an increasing number considering leaving academia for other careers rather than put up with anymore of this crap), or are at least keeping their heads low while simultaneously avoiding interaction with deans and above.   Amy Young is also right that many members of the faculty will help pull USM out of accreditation probation, but many other faculty members are tired enough of the whole charade to say "no way" - let the Administration fix it.  Never in my life have I seen such a thoroughly demoralized group of employees who have grown to hate the people they work for (the Administration and IHL Board, that is).  How many faculty members can even stomach being in the same room with Thames, Mader, Grimes, Malone, Lassen, Moore, and so on?  Not me, not any longer.  They are a disgrace not only to USM but to Mississippi, academia, and professional life in general.  When the new Administration is installed within the next year look for many of these people to be shorn of their coercive power (the only kind they have) and exposed as the cowardly know-nothings that we know they are.  Sorry for the negative tone, but I am reminded of the great Nina Simone song from the early 1960s - "Mississippi Goddam" - enough is enough.

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Faculty have done the right thing.  They continue to do the right thing, being consummate professionals, teaching their valued students and continuing their scholarship and creative activity. Faculty voices have made little impression on the IHL (with the exception of the hell Frank and Gary endured last spring).  The only thing that will do any good now iare the voices of alums and students. 

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Anne Wallace

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Angeline, you implicitly set up a choice between resistance/speaking out and "self-preservation." As LVN points out, that is a necessary choice for many who have less protection (though I'm pretty sure that academic reputation is no protection here!), who have families to support, who have children in MS colleges, etc.

But I've acted as I have because, to some extent, I think that choice is a false one. What is it that we want to protect--our jobs? And what are those jobs? At what point does our work become meaningless or trivial because the principles that protected our free speech and thought have been gutted? Then it's not a job we're protecting, it's a paycheck.

I'm not discounting the importance of a paycheck, or meaning any disrespect to those who need to protect their livelihood. I've said from the beginning of this thing that those of us who feel we can speak should stand up in front of those who feel they can't. Those of us who have some modicum of safety must act to protect others.

But I am saying that it's possible to be ready to leave USM without being ready to leave the resistance. What we're defending here is not only USM, but the principles of academe, the highest values that we aspire to (and, alas, too often fall short of!): free speech, free thought, civil discourse, reasoned persuasion, collegial labor, open inquiry, the democracy of the intellect. If we don't work to preserve these values where we stand, then how can we expect to find them to find them anywhere?

As for myself, I'll still be talking if/when I walk through that open door.

NO QUARTER--not here, not anywhere.
Anne Wallace





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Stephen Judd

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AMEN  Anne.


 



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Originally posted by: Anne Wallace

"Angeline, you implicitly set up a choice between resistance/speaking out and "self-preservation." As LVN points out, that is a necessary choice for many who have less protection (though I'm pretty sure that academic reputation is no protection here!),

OH, I meant that the academic reputation would help people get jobs elsewhere. We've already seen how much it means here . . . people with options are a little more free.




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