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Date: Feb 10, 2005

RE: RE: Sorority village

Date: Feb 10, 2005

lucas and trent lott were investors in one as well.

Date: Feb 10, 2005

"I'm for better living conditions for all."

as a former dormitory resident, i agree with you on that point, sad but true. my concern is this: three of the four black sororities are currently not housed in wilbur. if the sorority "village" will consist of nine units, then three sororities will still be left out (wanna take a guess as to which ones they'll be?). so, the "better living conditions" won't be provided for all, after all.

p/s: sbt's editor: i think it's safe to say "a number of studies has" considering that "a number" is the subject and it's singular (e.g., a group of faculty members has expressed concern...")

Date: Feb 10, 2005

I was in a sorority; I admit it. However, I don't think that Greeks should get any special treatment over other students unless it is coming out of their pocket$. I also think it is totally unacceptable for ANY sorority to be left out of new housing unless it is their choice. Has there been any press on why there won't be housing for all twelve sororities?

Date: Feb 10, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: reed
"three of the four black sororities are currently not housed in wilbur"

Did you say black sororities? Surely a public university does not have soroties segregated by color. Are there also white sororities at USM? Please, fellow, posters - don't try to explain this to me. It is indefensible.

Date: Feb 10, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Color Blind Southerer
"Did you say black sororities? Surely a public university does not have soroties segregated by color. Are there also white sororities at USM? Please, fellow, posters - don't try to explain this to me. It is indefensible."

Just as there are HBCU's (historically black colleges and universities), there are historically black (and, less publicly stated probably, historically white) sororities and fraternities. When I was in college, I remember visiting my cousin at Davidson College and seeing diversity within the ranks of the Kappa Alpha fraternity chapter there....and thinking it odd that back at USM, the KA chapter called their annual formal dance "Old South"---complete with Civil War era costumes, etc.

I'm neither defending nor condeming the Greek system (some of my best friends went Greek!)...just stating my own observations, however out of date they may be.

Date: Feb 10, 2005

"Did you say black sororities? Surely a public university does not have soroties segregated by color. Are there also white sororities at USM? Please, fellow, posters - don't try to explain this to me. It is indefensible."

Can we please drop this topic? There are many positives and negatives associated with the Greek system, but I don't think this forum is the place to discuss them. As much as we like to blame everything on SFT at this university, I don't the the living conditions for the sorority girs on campus (black or white) can be tied to Shelby directly. That is, unless Kevin Walters breaks a story on that....

Date: Feb 10, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: The Rock
""Did you say black sororities? Surely a public university does not have soroties segregated by color. Are there also white sororities at USM? Please, fellow, posters - don't try to explain this to me. It is indefensible." Can we please drop this topic? There are many positives and negatives associated with the Greek system, but I don't think this forum is the place to discuss them. As much as we like to blame everything on SFT at this university, I don't the the living conditions for the sorority girs on campus (black or white) can be tied to Shelby directly. That is, unless Kevin Walters breaks a story on that...."

The topic will drop when people are tired of talking about it...it's an open forum. All topics are welcome.

Date: Feb 10, 2005

"The topic will drop when people are tired of talking about it...it's an open forum. All topics are welcome."

Fair enough - I just hate to see the Greek system get blindly attacked by those who don't know much about it. I joined a fraternity almost on a whim when I got to college, and it was one of the best decisions I've ever made. And it cost me very little more than a semester meal pass through the university. Thus, the lifelong friends I made in the Greek system were not bought - they were just made in a place that independent students choose not to access.

Also, I know of KA chapters that have African-American members that participate freely in their Old South festivities. Just goes to show that thoughts of "the Old South" mean different things to different people...

Date: Feb 10, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: The Rock
""The topic will drop when people are tired of talking about it...it's an open forum. All topics are welcome." Fair enough - I just hate to see the Greek system get blindly attacked by those who don't know much about it. I joined a fraternity almost on a whim when I got to college, and it was one of the best decisions I've ever made. And it cost me very little more than a semester meal pass through the university. Thus, the lifelong friends I made in the Greek system were not bought - they were just made in a place that independent students choose not to access. Also, I know of KA chapters that have African-American members that participate freely in their Old South festivities. Just goes to show that thoughts of "the Old South" mean different things to different people..."

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...non-Greek opinions of the Greek system are just as valid as those who went Greek. As with any system, there will be good and bad experiences by those on all sides.

Date: Feb 10, 2005

I have always felt that the Greek activities, pledging etc should be delayed until the second semester of freshman year. I think the first semester freshmen have enough challenges without the time -- and the alcohol-- management challenges involved. Just my $.02 as a part time instructor.

Date: Feb 10, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: The Rock
Thus, the lifelong friends I made in the Greek system were not bought - they were just made in a place that independent students choose not to access.

Or at least didnt pay to access.

Face it, you paid for your friends. Not a bad investment though. You will always have a drinking buddy for when you get off work at Taco Bell.

Date: Feb 10, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: HUH?
" Or at least didnt pay to access. Face it, you paid for your friends. Not a bad investment though. You will always have a drinking buddy for when you get off work at Taco Bell. "

Actually, one of the things I remember from FG’s 101 class is that he said people who were members greek organizations tended to be more successful in life. He attributed it to increased number of business contacts.

Date: Feb 10, 2005

"Or at least didnt pay to access.

Face it, you paid for your friends. Not a bad investment though. You will always have a drinking buddy for when you get off work at Taco Bell."

Man, some bitter folks on the board today. These kinds of statements are usually reserved for the EagleTalk types, but that's cool - as Andrea says, it's an open forum. Fortunately, I'm successful enough in my chosen profession not to have to work in the fast food industry, but I hold nothing against those that do.

Dork.

Date: Feb 10, 2005

The only thing I have against the Greek is that they are allowed to chalk the sidewalks at will. I had to go to Hattiesburg a few weeks ago and saw some Greek letters & good luck messages chalked in front of the library. Now why did I have to hide in the dark?

Also I have found that is you are a decent enough person it is not that hard to find loyal lifelong friends without paying for them. Just this week I had two separate incidents of some old loyal free buddies come to my rescue in times of need.

NC

Date: Feb 10, 2005

NC, we miss you, buddy.

Date: Feb 10, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Color Blind Southerer
"Did you say black sororities? Surely a public university does not have soroties segregated by color. Are there also white sororities at USM? Please, fellow, posters - don't try to explain this to me. It is indefensible."

As in any social setting, it's not the University that segregates the Greek system...it's the people themselves. But, I do agree with your sentiment and will not attempt to explain it further. I'm a proud non-Greek alumni with a "mixed" network of friends, but still "incognegro" at USM.