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Eagle in Cairo

Is the Alumni Association going to keep quiet over this one just like they were silent about Gary and Frank?? Will they DO something this time? Make a statement? Take a stand? Do some critical thinking? Do those of us who are alums need to email them en masse?? A...

Reporter

There will be a called meeting of Faculty Senate on Wednesday, December 15 at 5 p.m. in rooms B7C of the Union. Dr. Joan Exline will address the Senate and discuss the SACS probation. FS meetings are open meetings.

For the Record

Is it possible, in one of the many venues that SFT inhabits, to have someone (in the media, or a student in Seymores, for example) ask him if he is going to actually seek a new 4-year contract around the time that his original contract expires? (assuming he makes it through his first 4 years...

info

http://clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041213/OPINION/412130306/1009

truth4usm/AH

I just re-read the HA article comparing USM's situation with SACS to Auburn's situation, and I had a question. Has USM ever had any sort of university-wide evaluation of administrators (Thames included)? I saw that this was cited as one of the issues at Auburn, but I don't ever remember...

Reporter

Probation survived by 2 Ala. schoolshttp://clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041212/NEWS01/412120352&SearchID=73192731177638

BR 549

On the surface it appears that the USM faculty is faced with a Hobson's choice. The IHL is also faced with a Hobson's choice. The faculty has no visible way out of their dilemma. Theirs seems to be a Lose-Lose proposition regardless of the route they take. The IHL, on the other hand, has a...

Amy Young

I have attended meetings on campus with faculty and with the administation, I have read newspapers, and I have been reading SACS materials that I downloaded. What is clear is that this is serious situation. One problem (among many) is the lack of credibility of the administration.&nb...

USM Sympathizer

I have been away from the website for a while (and buy, have things developed during my absence!), so I am curious to know the status of the lawsuit filed by the terminated professor of education (I believe her name is Melissa Whiting). Is it still in process? I am keeping my fingers crosse...

See More

This week's issue geocities.com/seemore004

Advocate

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=OPINIONDo you have confidence in University of Southern Mississippi President Shelby Thame...

dizzy

Perhaps the buck should and does stop with Shelby. He is certainly publicly proclaiming that to be the case. However, with every statement he shifts the blame to underlings in the administration. From there it will surely trickle down to the faculty. Is not accredit...

Reporter

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041212/NEWS01/41212001

dizzy

I just posted another topic, "Spin?" and then read the topic "MARCH ON THE DOME" posted last night. Both posts are about the need for the faculty to speak out. I gues the main problem is fear of losing one's job and fear of being the only person to speak. Those are powerf...

Visiting Bulldog

Klumb will keep insisting that all is well--up until the very moment that he's forced by outside agencies to admit that it's not. Remember the NCAA/MSU debacle from the fall? A brief reminder runs below, which is a good read even if you don't care at all about sports. [url]http://www.clarionl...

Reporter

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/editorial/10397534.htm

Got Milk?

This one sentence from an Associated Press item that appeared on the internet today may provide an analogy that may at least partially help explain why the IHL is letting this happen to USM. "A dairy trade group is expanding a program that pays farmers to reduce the size of their herds in an effort to kee...

Mr. Wonderful

What a week this has been! How busy was it? The night crew is sleepy, the regular daytime crew is exhausted, and #1 Groupie participated in the selection committee meeting by telephone with a cup of black coffee in her hand and her eyes propped open with toothpicks. Keeping up with the ple...

Reporter

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/editorial/10397531.htm

Magnolia

In a recent meeting with Faculty Senate officers, I understand that the topic of service was raised--I believe in the context of post tenure review. It was reported to me that Thames was dismissive of service as an area of evaluation. I believe his comment was "We don't want faculty to ma...

stinky cheese man

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041210/NEWS01/412100305/1002

Angeline

http://hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=OPINION

Robert Campbell

"I accept the responsibility, but not the blame." Richard M. Nixon, in his Watergate speech of April 30, 1973

Reporter

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041212/OPINION03/412120302/1014/OPINION

Intrepid

During the past two years the administration has demonstrated an interest in increasing USM's enrollment to 20,000. It has also demonstrated an interest in bringing in the big bucks. Money. Midas. Economic Development. All sorts of things except academics. It is as if the tot...

foot soldier

The other day in the H-A, Robin Robinson stated that she had received about 75 letters since she had been on the IHL board, all in support of Thames. I promptly sat down and sent her the letter I meant to write to her at the end of the semester. I imagine many of you out there have written many letters to the IH...

who reads your email?

The University of Southern Mississippi Institutional Effectiveness Plan and Progress Report 12/7/04 SACS Comprehensive Standard for Institutional Effectiveness: The institution identifies expected outcomes for its educational programs and its administrative and educational...

Jameela Lares

With all due respect, nay gratitude, to the two awards committees that kept up our spirits during the waiting times, we now need to be putting our energies into contacting the media and the IHL rather than into self-congratulation. I'm trying to formulate my own letter to the I...

Reporter

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041211/NEWS01/41211002

Invictus

Recently, I noticed some discoloration of two of my USM diplomas, which have been hanging on my office wall for years. Then I noticed spots on the leather diploma case I have framed with my PhD sheepskin. A professional framer told me it was mildew or mold & that they were probably ruined. How f...

No Reporter

Does anybody have a report from the AAUP meeting this evening? Please report. Pretty please.

mace

A lot of it is word-for-word. My god. http://www.ocm.auburn.edu/sacsprobation.html (Auburn's) http://www.usm.edu/pr/SACS/spsp.html (USM'S) One of th...

USM Alum

In the Spring, Klumb will no longer be the board president. Newton, who makes no secret of her distaste for thames, will ascend to the Presidency. What will be the effects on USM specifically, if any?

truth4usm/AH

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/assets/pdf/DB1210.PDF

Reporter

This was on the Faculty Senate Listserv: Colleagues: Below you will find an account that is an analysis of the timeline of USM submissions to SACs and how one person (who claims to be very knowledgeable about the SACs process) interprets it. Perhaps some of you more familiar with the process than I m...

Reporter

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041211/NEWS01/412110301/1002

Newgirl

Have you seen the new format of the USM website? The format has changed to make the PR much easier to see. In fact you can't see anything except the propaganda.

Andy

What has the coverage been like in The Student Printz on this issue? Does anyone know why it's not online anymore? As an alum not living in Hattiesburg, I do miss reading it.

Flash Gordon

The last time USM (then State Teachers College) had an accreditation problem was in 1930 when SACS withdrew accreditation because of the meddling of the infamous Gov. Bilbo. The IHL was set up a couple of years later to insulate the state colleges from political interference.

Magnolia

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041211/NEWS01/412110301/1002

Let the academics govern

Today's HA editorial: "Board needs to spearhead investigation" is a great start. Let's hope that in the same way that accrediting bodies talk freely with faculty and adminstrators in all units, the board will honestly triangulate with a representative university sample. Shelby is going to w...

Midnight Jokester

Once upon a time, a man was in a terrible traffic accident and sustained massive injuries to his brain. A doctor came into his room and said, "You have had some pretty significant brain damage, but I'm a medical researcher. We've just perfected a procedure for doing a brain transplant, and I'd lik...

Fire Shelby

...for a new "Fire Shelby" website. I don't have time to start an new website and I think the USM AAUP is doing a great service by keeping people updated.... But let's just pretend. What would you call your anti-Shelby website, were you to create one? I think mine would be... www.we...

Fire Shelby

Krandall Howell, where are you? Scott Farris? All the others...waiting to hear your opinions on the current crisis at USM. Or will your silence be deafening this time? Or perhaps an admission that you were wrong to fervently support Herr Thames? (Won't hold my b...

watchin' & waitin'

Note the last lines of today's Clarion Ledger editorial: "This problem lies squarely at the steps of the president of the university. It's embarrassing. The College Board should intervene and send in personnnel to ensure corrections are made. The board also should be discussing Thames' futu...

Angeline

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041210/NEWS01/412100330/1002

Robert Campbell

I've carried the accreditation story forward today, for the readers of Liberty and Power: http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/8995.html Robert Campbell

hot link

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=OPINION

Think Tank on Hardy Street

"Thames, in an exclusive interview with the Hattiesburg American said paperwork is missing from February 1997 to April 2001. Both communication to the Southern Area Association of Colleges and Schools and from the organization can't be found"

Reporter

There is not much to report from the special called meeting of the Faculty Senate. Every thing below is my take on what occurred and should be taken with a grain of salt. The media (both paper and TV) was present and will give a more accurate account. The meeting was called to add...

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Alumni Association (Preview) Is the Alumni Association going to keep quiet over this one just like they were silent about Gary and Frank?? Will they DO something this time? Make a statement? Take a stand? Do some critical thinking? Do those of us who are alums need to email them en masse?? A...	Eagle in Cairo	11	548	Dec 13, 2004 by Easy Sleezy
	FacultySenate News (Preview) There will be a called meeting of Faculty Senate on Wednesday, December 15 at 5 p.m. in rooms B7C of the Union. Dr. Joan Exline will address the Senate and discuss the SACS probation. FS meetings are open meetings.	Reporter	8	464	Dec 13, 2004 by Robert Campbell
	4 more years? (Preview) Is it possible, in one of the many venues that SFT inhabits, to have someone (in the media, or a student in Seymores, for example) ask him if he is going to actually seek a new 4-year contract around the time that his original contract expires? (assuming he makes it through his first 4 years...	For the Record	6	383	Dec 13, 2004 by You Bet
	Polk's CL letter (Preview) http://clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041213/OPINION/412130306/1009	info	7	612	Dec 13, 2004 by Robert Campbell
	Evaluation of administrators at USM? (Preview) I just re-read the HA article comparing USM's situation with SACS to Auburn's situation, and I had a question. Has USM ever had any sort of university-wide evaluation of administrators (Thames included)? I saw that this was cited as one of the issues at Auburn, but I don't ever remember...	truth4usm/AH	8	540	Dec 13, 2004 by sunshine
	USM vs Alabama (Preview) Probation survived by 2 Ala. schoolshttp://clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041212/NEWS01/412120352&SearchID=73192731177638	Reporter	20	656	Dec 13, 2004 by USM Sympathizer
	Hobson's Choice (Preview) On the surface it appears that the USM faculty is faced with a Hobson's choice. The IHL is also faced with a Hobson's choice. The faculty has no visible way out of their dilemma. Theirs seems to be a Lose-Lose proposition regardless of the route they take. The IHL, on the other hand, has a...	BR 549	12	531	Dec 13, 2004 by Straight Man
	SACS Summit ( 1 2 3 ) (Preview) I have attended meetings on campus with faculty and with the administation, I have read newspapers, and I have been reading SACS materials that I downloaded. What is clear is that this is serious situation. One problem (among many) is the lack of credibility of the administration.&nb...	Amy Young	83	1271	Dec 13, 2004 by ram
	Whatever happened to the suit against USM? (Preview) I have been away from the website for a while (and buy, have things developed during my absence!), so I am curious to know the status of the lawsuit filed by the terminated professor of education (I believe her name is Melissa Whiting). Is it still in process? I am keeping my fingers crosse...	USM Sympathizer	4	523	Dec 13, 2004 by USM Sympathizer
	See More #42 (Preview) This week's issue geocities.com/seemore004	See More	3	436	Dec 13, 2004 by Fisher Price
	HA: Confidence in Thames vote (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=OPINIONDo you have confidence in University of Southern Mississippi President Shelby Thame...	Advocate	0	309	Dec 13, 2004 by Advocate
	Spin? (Preview) Perhaps the buck should and does stop with Shelby. He is certainly publicly proclaiming that to be the case. However, with every statement he shifts the blame to underlings in the administration. From there it will surely trickle down to the faculty. Is not accredit...	dizzy	3	430	Dec 13, 2004 by Eagle in Cairo
	Probation Hurts Hiring (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041212/NEWS01/41212001	Reporter	7	506	Dec 13, 2004 by Emma's Double
	Spin? March On The Dome? How bad.....? (Preview) I just posted another topic, "Spin?" and then read the topic "MARCH ON THE DOME" posted last night. Both posts are about the need for the faculty to speak out. I gues the main problem is fear of losing one's job and fear of being the only person to speak. Those are powerf...	dizzy	5	397	Dec 12, 2004 by FireFly
	Klumb's a genius (Preview) Klumb will keep insisting that all is well--up until the very moment that he's forced by outside agencies to admit that it's not. Remember the NCAA/MSU debacle from the fall? A brief reminder runs below, which is a good read even if you don't care at all about sports. [url]http://www.clarionl...	Visiting Bulldog	6	558	Dec 12, 2004 by Invictus
	Thames' Editorial (Preview) http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/editorial/10397534.htm	Reporter	28	774	Dec 12, 2004 by Invictus
	USM from a dairy farmer's perspective (Preview) This one sentence from an Associated Press item that appeared on the internet today may provide an analogy that may at least partially help explain why the IHL is letting this happen to USM. "A dairy trade group is expanding a program that pays farmers to reduce the size of their herds in an effort to kee...	Got Milk?	2	316	Dec 12, 2004 by Aesop
	Mr. Wonderful's Citation de la Semaine: Dec. 12 (Preview) What a week this has been! How busy was it? The night crew is sleepy, the regular daytime crew is exhausted, and #1 Groupie participated in the selection committee meeting by telephone with a cup of black coffee in her hand and her eyes propped open with toothpicks. Keeping up with the ple...	Mr. Wonderful	13	467	Dec 12, 2004 by Tricky Dickie
	Sun Herald Editorial (Preview) http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/editorial/10397531.htm	Reporter	11	416	Dec 12, 2004 by stephen judd
	University Service (Preview) In a recent meeting with Faculty Senate officers, I understand that the topic of service was raised--I believe in the context of post tenure review. It was reported to me that Thames was dismissive of service as an area of evaluation. I believe his comment was "We don't want faculty to ma...	Magnolia	2	329	Dec 12, 2004 by foot soldier
	latest HA articles ( 1 2 3 ) (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041210/NEWS01/412100305/1002	stinky cheese man	73	1273	Dec 12, 2004 by stinky cheese man
	Vote Now: Is USM "world class"? (Preview) http://hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=OPINION	Angeline	1	333	Dec 12, 2004 by Voter
	Quotation for the day (Preview) "I accept the responsibility, but not the blame." Richard M. Nixon, in his Watergate speech of April 30, 1973	Robert Campbell	1	287	Dec 12, 2004 by Otherside
	Fitzgerald's Letter (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041212/OPINION03/412120302/1014/OPINION	Reporter	1	314	Dec 12, 2004 by Angeline
	Academic Probation: The Buck Stops Here ( 1 2 ) (Preview) During the past two years the administration has demonstrated an interest in increasing USM's enrollment to 20,000. It has also demonstrated an interest in bringing in the big bucks. Money. Midas. Economic Development. All sorts of things except academics. It is as if the tot...	Intrepid	39	1498	Dec 12, 2004 by Let Freedom Ring
	Writing Robinson and the IHL board (Preview) The other day in the H-A, Robin Robinson stated that she had received about 75 letters since she had been on the IHL board, all in support of Thames. I promptly sat down and sent her the letter I meant to write to her at the end of the semester. I imagine many of you out there have written many letters to the IH...	foot soldier	13	716	Dec 11, 2004 by foot soldier
	Plan & Progress Report ( 1 2 ) (Preview) The University of Southern Mississippi Institutional Effectiveness Plan and Progress Report 12/7/04 SACS Comprehensive Standard for Institutional Effectiveness: The institution identifies expected outcomes for its educational programs and its administrative and educational...	who reads your email?	37	1061	Dec 11, 2004 by stephen judd
	Time for action (Preview) With all due respect, nay gratitude, to the two awards committees that kept up our spirits during the waiting times, we now need to be putting our energies into contacting the media and the IHL rather than into self-congratulation. I'm trying to formulate my own letter to the I...	Jameela Lares	8	445	Dec 11, 2004 by foot soldier
	H.A. Update (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041211/NEWS01/41211002	Reporter	1	264	Dec 11, 2004 by stinky cheese man
	My Diplomas are Ruined (Literally) (Preview) Recently, I noticed some discoloration of two of my USM diplomas, which have been hanging on my office wall for years. Then I noticed spots on the leather diploma case I have framed with my PhD sheepskin. A professional framer told me it was mildew or mold & that they were probably ruined. How f...	Invictus	12	685	Dec 11, 2004 by Invictus
	AAUP Meeting (Preview) Does anybody have a report from the AAUP meeting this evening? Please report. Pretty please.	No Reporter	22	902	Dec 11, 2004 by foot soldier
	USM PLAGARIZES WEBSITE ON SACS PROBATION? (Preview) A lot of it is word-for-word. My god. http://www.ocm.auburn.edu/sacsprobation.html (Auburn's) http://www.usm.edu/pr/SACS/spsp.html (USM'S) One of th...	mace	13	620	Dec 11, 2004 by stephen judd
	Effects of Newton IHL Pres? (Preview) In the Spring, Klumb will no longer be the board president. Newton, who makes no secret of her distaste for thames, will ascend to the Presidency. What will be the effects on USM specifically, if any?	USM Alum	20	525	Dec 11, 2004 by Newbie
	HA: USM's SACS timeline and other info ( 1 2 ) (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/assets/pdf/DB1210.PDF	truth4usm/AH	49	1329	Dec 11, 2004 by Invictus
	FS Listserv (Preview) This was on the Faculty Senate Listserv: Colleagues: Below you will find an account that is an analysis of the timeline of USM submissions to SACs and how one person (who claims to be very knowledgeable about the SACs process) interprets it. Perhaps some of you more familiar with the process than I m...	Reporter	8	442	Dec 11, 2004 by Ltag (getting tired of writing it out)
	More Articles (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041211/NEWS01/412110301/1002	Reporter	7	470	Dec 11, 2004 by Jameela Lares
	USM Website (Preview) Have you seen the new format of the USM website? The format has changed to make the PR much easier to see. In fact you can't see anything except the propaganda.	Newgirl	0	292	Dec 11, 2004 by Newgirl
	The Student Printz (Preview) What has the coverage been like in The Student Printz on this issue? Does anyone know why it's not online anymore? As an alum not living in Hattiesburg, I do miss reading it.	Andy	3	391	Dec 11, 2004 by smuggler
	Historical Tidbit (Preview) The last time USM (then State Teachers College) had an accreditation problem was in 1930 when SACS withdrew accreditation because of the meddling of the infamous Gov. Bilbo. The IHL was set up a couple of years later to insulate the state colleges from political interference.	Flash Gordon	17	539	Dec 11, 2004 by First Ant at the Picnic
	Finger Pointing (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041211/NEWS01/412110301/1002	Magnolia	7	351	Dec 11, 2004 by stephen judd
	Board Needs to Spearhead Investigation (Preview) Today's HA editorial: "Board needs to spearhead investigation" is a great start. Let's hope that in the same way that accrediting bodies talk freely with faculty and adminstrators in all units, the board will honestly triangulate with a representative university sample. Shelby is going to w...	Let the academics govern	1	316	Dec 11, 2004 by Dearly Beloved One
	Brain Transplants (late nite levity) (Preview) Once upon a time, a man was in a terrible traffic accident and sustained massive injuries to his brain. A doctor came into his room and said, "You have had some pretty significant brain damage, but I'm a medical researcher. We've just perfected a procedure for doing a brain transplant, and I'd lik...	Midnight Jokester	1	277	Dec 11, 2004 by stephen judd
	Just for fun, what would be the best website name (Preview) ...for a new "Fire Shelby" website. I don't have time to start an new website and I think the USM AAUP is doing a great service by keeping people updated.... But let's just pretend. What would you call your anti-Shelby website, were you to create one? I think mine would be... www.we...	Fire Shelby	9	453	Dec 10, 2004 by foot soldier
	Can't wait to see the pro-Shelby LTEs... (Preview) Krandall Howell, where are you? Scott Farris? All the others...waiting to hear your opinions on the current crisis at USM. Or will your silence be deafening this time? Or perhaps an admission that you were wrong to fervently support Herr Thames? (Won't hold my b...	Fire Shelby	2	322	Dec 10, 2004 by Invictus
	Clock is Ticking for ole Shelboo and his cabal (Preview) Note the last lines of today's Clarion Ledger editorial: "This problem lies squarely at the steps of the president of the university. It's embarrassing. The College Board should intervene and send in personnnel to ensure corrections are made. The board also should be discussing Thames' futu...	watchin' & waitin'	6	574	Dec 10, 2004 by Andy
	Go Bobby Chain! (Preview) http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041210/NEWS01/412100330/1002	Angeline	8	609	Dec 10, 2004 by Green Hornet
	Liberty and Power: More detailed update (Preview) I've carried the accreditation story forward today, for the readers of Liberty and Power: http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/8995.html Robert Campbell	Robert Campbell	2	294	Dec 10, 2004 by WIIFM
	Going to a Bowl (Preview) http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=OPINION	hot link	5	437	Dec 10, 2004 by Think Tank on Hardy Street
	The Dog Ate My Homework (Preview) "Thames, in an exclusive interview with the Hattiesburg American said paperwork is missing from February 1997 to April 2001. Both communication to the Southern Area Association of Colleges and Schools and from the organization can't be found"	Think Tank on Hardy Street	3	331	Dec 10, 2004 by interested bystander
	FS Called Meeting (Preview) There is not much to report from the special called meeting of the Faculty Senate. Every thing below is my take on what occurred and should be taken with a grain of salt. The media (both paper and TV) was present and will give a more accurate account. The meeting was called to add...	Reporter	7	536	Dec 10, 2004 by Reporter
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