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A Message from the President October 1, 2004 Dear Colleagues, It has been several weeks since I have written a letter to you. It feels as if we have been moving about 100 miles per hour, and I don't foresee a decrease in speed coming anytime soon. I must admit though, I like to be busy. Throug...

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truth4usm/AH

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20041004/localnews/1354860.html

Mr. Wonderful

Groupie #1 mistakenly reported that I missed last week's Citation de la Semaine selection process because I would not leave a Blackjack table. Blackjack table, indeed. That was an Oyster Shucking table. I was attending the Great North American Oyster Shucking 'n Broiling Cookoff Charity B...

Slow Poke

From today's HA: University officials will close administrative offices at noon Thursday and dismiss classes at 2:15 p.m. and labs at 4 p.m. to allow faculty, staff and students time to go to the game against the University on. Kickoff is at 6 p.m. Just how long does it take to get ready to attend a f...

Lawsuits on Parade

Now online: "A jury was selected in Forrest County Circuit Court today to hear the nine-year-old civil lawsuit filed against the University of Southern Mississippi by Anne Jordan who claimed she was wrongly fired from her job as director of the Lamar County Community Partnership in 1994."

Robert Campbell

At least one academic blogger is paying attention to the situation at USM. See Margaret Soltan's University Diaries at http://margaretsoltan.phenominet.com/ ...and scroll down to the entry for September 26, past the material that she quoted from Liberty and Power. Robert Ca...

Miss Information

Once again, the antimacassar tossers gathered with their snifters ready for a noisy meeting only to discover that Select Shun Committee adequately described their deliberations. There have been times in the past when the committee had to find a Copier to duplicate the nomination lists, but not so...

Outside Observer

Alas...I fear the movement is losing steam. In a google search, the USM AAUP message board now appears in 4th place...it used to be in first. Gurenburg (sp?) is gone...risk managers and their assistants are missing...the Night Chalker I fear was captured months ago by USM Night Stalke...

Reporter

Posters on the "Losing Steam" thread were asking questions about the PUC and activities on campus. The tentative agenda for the next PC meeting is below. Item 2a is in connection to concerns raised last meeting, by Myron Henry and others, about the proposed Affirmative Action reorganization u...

jonathan barron

The process for determining merit raises in the College of Liberal Arts is now revealed. This is the process: The dean elected to evaluate on his own all 160 plus faculty members in his college in 3 categories: teaching, research, service. He elected to assess ONLY the productivity from the year 20...

Person of Interest

I attempted to enter the AAUP-USM website from the clickable link at the top left of the message board, and also through a google search. Neither attempts were successful The site was listed as "expired." This is the site I attempted to access: www.aaup-usm.org Have I missed something? Has th...

Green Hornet

I was in the HUB (Student Union) today and was looking for the Thursday edition of the Student Printz. This was my first trip to the HUB this week and I missed picking up a Tuesday edition as well. I did not see ANY Student Printz to be read??????????? Has something happened that I am unaware of? Is the...

Chronicler

Lead article in today's (10/1) Chronicle of Higher Education: Federal Report Accuses U. of Phoenix of Illegal Pressure Tactics in Order to Pump Up Enrollment "The fast-growing University of Phoenix fosters a high-pressure sales culture that rewards recruiters who put the most "asses in cla...

Jameela Lares

As I said more briefly in another post, those of us in the trenches have been silent because we are brutally busy trying to keep up with our teaching, research, and service. Nevertheless, our teaching is not divorced from our lives. One of my teaching responsibilities is Literary Study of the B...

Where'sthemole

Has gurunberg been comprised????...whisked away in the night???...the board is COMPLETELY boring without gurunberg and his/her minion's insights...

Emma

USM will host call center conference Biloxi Sun Herald - Biloxi,MS,USA ... Attending will be USM President Shelby Thames, Mississippi Development Authority director

Austin Eagle

I thought you folks might be interested in the recommendations of a panel commissioned by the University of Texas concerning revamping their undergrad core curriculuum. From the Austin American Statesman, 09/29/04-- "The University of Texas (presently) fails to equip its undergraduate s...

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Interested

The NY Times reports today that New York Univerisity is beefing up its Liberal Arts programs in an effort to " make the liberal arts more of the intellectual core of the university, rather than one more school in a confederation of schools." The story can be accessed here. Its free but you have to re...

Robert Campbell

I've just put up a response to Charles Nuckolls at Liberty and Power. I think his charge that Shelby Thames remains in power because of faculty complicity is way off-base, and I try to explain why. http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/7615.html A big hat-tip to already gone, wh...

Anon

I received the following message from Bob Pierce encouraging me to vote in favor of the bond issue. My response to him follows the message. I hope all Hattiesburg voters and alumni will express their opposition to the bond issue based on the demolition done during the past year by Shelboo! Dear Fe...

Aunt Bea

Professor Marc DePree Cost Accounting 320 Case: Installing an Academic Program in France Cost Benefit Analysis – A copy of the following Payment Request was collected in an exercise of the Mississippi Open Records Act. “PAYMENT REQUEST Invoice #: POINT1...

Swan Song

http://www.thedmonline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/09/28/41590f74f1f50

Robert Campbell

My colleague Charles Nuckolls, of the University of Alabama, has put a brief and very pessimistic entry about USM on Liberty and Power: http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/7571.html This is the third time (if memory serves) that Charles has blamed Thames' continued hold on power on Frank Glam...

Messenger

WDAM just reported on a student who withdrew from USM and enrolled at Belhaven, complaining that he/she was forced to read a book for an english class that was laced with sex, etc. He/she also reported that his/her foreign language teacher consistently used profanity in class. They in...

Emma

http://chronicle.com/jobs/id.php?id=302221&pg=e

What's That?

In a meeting today with Department Chairs and various Deans, etc., President Thames was apparently completely surprised to hear that departments had their carryover monies wiped out recently (was that one source of the raises????) At first one person mentioned it as having happened at one depa...

The Bachelor

option. Word swirling all over campus about it now. Students no longer have the option of taking 75 minute classes on Mondays and Wednesdays. These courses will revert back to 50 minute courses, and a Friday session will be added. Word on this is just getting to the stude...

Mr. Wonderful's #1 Groupie

It’s a long story, but Mr. Wonderful is “unavailable” today. The last time I saw him he was at a casino blackjack table. He was winning big and I could not convince him to leave. He said, and I quote, “Luna, you take care of the awards and I’ll take care of business.” So mercy me, here I am IN CHARGE! It...

Miss Information

With the passing of two weeks since the last Nom d'Aplomb award during which time we were mostly Out of Touch, the committee was left with a great deal of time to ponder the One More Question of What's in a Name so that we could choose the most deserving Poster Child. With the assistance of Occam to slice th...

already gone

Just tried to open http://www.aaup-usm.org, and got a 'whois' search help page. Has the AAUP web page been 'hijacked,' or did somebody let the domain go un-renewed?

Robert Campbell

I've posted an entry on Liberty and Power on USM's fall in the US News and World Report rankings. The link is http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/7553.html I plan to follow up with shorter items about the alleged uniqueness of the Economic Development program and about Noel Polk's departur...

truth4usm/AH

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040920/localnews/1270751.html

Invictus

I was stumbling around the web & fell across this photo, which I swear looks like El Presidenté decked out for an open hearing.

truth4usm/AH

This is from the 9/24/04 edition of the Chronicle, written by our old friend, Thomas Bartlett (he covered the Stringer/Glamser crisis for the Chronicle). It is in a section entitled "Peer Review" on page A7 (for those of you with hardcopies): LETTER RIP: First, Noel Polk quit. ...

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big ears

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040920/opinion/1270808.html

Green Hornet

Any body read the front page of the Student Printz? Seems residents of Weber Hall are requesting it's removal.

Shaft

Why is it no longer online?? It has been a month since its last issue was online. This stinks!

from the Chronicle

A glance at the current issue of "Peer Review": Teaching the importance of a liberal education Liberal education is undervalued, but graduate schools can help change that, says Carol Geary Schneider, president of the Association of American Colleges and Universities, which publi...

Let Freedom Ring

I periodically check in on the petition to see if there are any new names, and this morning saw a post to it that I think Truth needs to see and consider deleting if she can. It has a very negative message (toward the cause) which does not fit in, and the person doesn't sign their...

Gibronni

1. Who was the B-School's grad programs director from about 2000-2003? 2. What are the admissions requirements like for the MBA program? 3. Where do USM's MBA students come from? (what undegrad inst.? etc.)

Reporter

“The Independent” dated September 16, 2004 has the following article on the front page: “”SOUTHERN FUMBLES THE BALL” Some excerpts from the article: “This week, another national publication, Business Week magazine, listed its evaluation of Masters of Business Administration pr...

Late night reader

There was a good editorial on public education, including colleges and universities, in this morning's (September 18) Hattiesburg American. I'm surprised nobody has hotlinked it on the message board: State must reformulate priorities

Invictus' IT Director

The scraper program that generates the RSS newsfeed for this message board has been revised to handle some changes that Activeboard made a while back in the HTML code behind these pages. The newsfeed is compatible with standard...

Invictus

Get your free online Economic Development Numerology degree. (The name you enter is not logged & no attempt is made to figure out your IP address.)

Green Hornet

It just occurred to me that when the winds from IVAN come to Hattiesburg, that SFT may have a new problem. During the summer, Shelby was quoted as saying “God speaks to me and tells me what I’m doing is right” I don’t believe Shelby is a wise nor humble man before the LORD. ...

Investigator

At the last PC meeting, it was mentioned during the discussion of USM's "credibility" that Mader’s PR used terms like "unique", "one of a kind", "comprehensive" and "world class" when discussing USM economic development program. As a result SFT said he would ask Ken Malone to address the next PC abo...

Shaft

http://www.picayuneitem.com/articles/2004/09/16/news/07pipe.txt

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	President's Update ( 1 2 ) (Preview) A Message from the President October 1, 2004 Dear Colleagues, It has been several weeks since I have written a letter to you. It feels as if we have been moving about 100 miles per hour, and I don't foresee a decrease in speed coming anytime soon. I must admit though, I like to be busy. Throug...	Copier	46	1089	Oct 6, 2004 by hot link
	See More #32 (Preview) This week's issue geocities.com/seemore004	See More	3	358	Oct 5, 2004 by USM Sympathizer
	HA: Good news re: USM Center for Writers (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20041004/localnews/1354860.html	truth4usm/AH	1	369	Oct 5, 2004 by Bookworm
	Mr. Wonderful's Citation de la Semaine: October 3 (Preview) Groupie #1 mistakenly reported that I missed last week's Citation de la Semaine selection process because I would not leave a Blackjack table. Blackjack table, indeed. That was an Oyster Shucking table. I was attending the Great North American Oyster Shucking 'n Broiling Cookoff Charity B...	Mr. Wonderful	4	355	Oct 4, 2004 by Polyonymous
	3 hrs. and 45 minutes to get to the football game? (Preview) From today's HA: University officials will close administrative offices at noon Thursday and dismiss classes at 2:15 p.m. and labs at 4 p.m. to allow faculty, staff and students time to go to the game against the University on. Kickoff is at 6 p.m. Just how long does it take to get ready to attend a f...	Slow Poke	1	381	Oct 4, 2004 by The Shadow
	HA Afternoon News Update - 10/4 (Preview) Now online: "A jury was selected in Forrest County Circuit Court today to hear the nine-year-old civil lawsuit filed against the University of Southern Mississippi by Anne Jordan who claimed she was wrongly fired from her job as director of the Lamar County Community Partnership in 1994."	Lawsuits on Parade	0	309	Oct 4, 2004 by Lawsuits on Parade
	A poem (Preview) At least one academic blogger is paying attention to the situation at USM. See Margaret Soltan's University Diaries at http://margaretsoltan.phenominet.com/ ...and scroll down to the entry for September 26, past the material that she quoted from Liberty and Power. Robert Ca...	Robert Campbell	4	408	Oct 4, 2004 by Margaret Soltan
	Nom d'Aplomb Award, October 3 (Preview) Once again, the antimacassar tossers gathered with their snifters ready for a noisy meeting only to discover that Select Shun Committee adequately described their deliberations. There have been times in the past when the committee had to find a Copier to duplicate the nomination lists, but not so...	Miss Information	1	248	Oct 3, 2004 by Emma
	Losing Steam (Preview) Alas...I fear the movement is losing steam. In a google search, the USM AAUP message board now appears in 4th place...it used to be in first. Gurenburg (sp?) is gone...risk managers and their assistants are missing...the Night Chalker I fear was captured months ago by USM Night Stalke...	Outside Observer	17	757	Oct 2, 2004 by stinky cheese man
	PC Agenda (Preview) Posters on the "Losing Steam" thread were asking questions about the PUC and activities on campus. The tentative agenda for the next PC meeting is below. Item 2a is in connection to concerns raised last meeting, by Myron Henry and others, about the proposed Affirmative Action reorganization u...	Reporter	14	594	Oct 2, 2004 by NC
	Merit raises all faculty: ATTENTION (Preview) The process for determining merit raises in the College of Liberal Arts is now revealed. This is the process: The dean elected to evaluate on his own all 160 plus faculty members in his college in 3 categories: teaching, research, service. He elected to assess ONLY the productivity from the year 20...	jonathan barron	13	1118	Oct 2, 2004 by resurrection
	AAUP-USM website: expired? (Preview) I attempted to enter the AAUP-USM website from the clickable link at the top left of the message board, and also through a google search. Neither attempts were successful The site was listed as "expired." This is the site I attempted to access: www.aaup-usm.org Have I missed something? Has th...	Person of Interest	3	376	Oct 2, 2004 by The Shadow
	The Student Printz-MIA??? (Preview) I was in the HUB (Student Union) today and was looking for the Thursday edition of the Student Printz. This was my first trip to the HUB this week and I missed picking up a Tuesday edition as well. I did not see ANY Student Printz to be read??????????? Has something happened that I am unaware of? Is the...	Green Hornet	3	399	Oct 1, 2004 by Printz Lover
	Role Models? (Preview) Lead article in today's (10/1) Chronicle of Higher Education: Federal Report Accuses U. of Phoenix of Illegal Pressure Tactics in Order to Pump Up Enrollment "The fast-growing University of Phoenix fosters a high-pressure sales culture that rewards recruiters who put the most "asses in cla...	Chronicler	2	381	Oct 1, 2004 by Chronicler
	Proverbs for these times (Preview) As I said more briefly in another post, those of us in the trenches have been silent because we are brutally busy trying to keep up with our teaching, research, and service. Nevertheless, our teaching is not divorced from our lives. One of my teaching responsibilities is Literary Study of the B...	Jameela Lares	1	318	Oct 1, 2004 by View from a Distance
	What happened to GURUNBERG (Preview) Has gurunberg been comprised????...whisked away in the night???...the board is COMPLETELY boring without gurunberg and his/her minion's insights...	Where'sthemole	23	1007	Sep 30, 2004 by Herr Doktor Mengela
	Call Center Conference (Preview) USM will host call center conference Biloxi Sun Herald - Biloxi,MS,USA ... Attending will be USM President Shelby Thames, Mississippi Development Authority director	Emma	0	245	Sep 30, 2004 by Emma
	Food For Thought (Preview) I thought you folks might be interested in the recommendations of a panel commissioned by the University of Texas concerning revamping their undergrad core curriculuum. From the Austin American Statesman, 09/29/04-- "The University of Texas (presently) fails to equip its undergraduate s...	Austin Eagle	0	269	Sep 30, 2004 by Austin Eagle
	See More #31 (Preview) This week's issue geocities.com/seemore004	See More	5	431	Sep 29, 2004 by LVN
	Somebody thinks the liberal arts are important (Preview) The NY Times reports today that New York Univerisity is beefing up its Liberal Arts programs in an effort to " make the liberal arts more of the intellectual core of the university, rather than one more school in a confederation of schools." The story can be accessed here. Its free but you have to re...	Interested	4	430	Sep 29, 2004 by Invictus
	Libertyand Power on alleged faculty complicity (Preview) I've just put up a response to Charles Nuckolls at Liberty and Power. I think his charge that Shelby Thames remains in power because of faculty complicity is way off-base, and I try to explain why. http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/7615.html A big hat-tip to already gone, wh...	Robert Campbell	3	389	Sep 29, 2004 by ram
	Bond Issue ( 1 2 ) (Preview) I received the following message from Bob Pierce encouraging me to vote in favor of the bond issue. My response to him follows the message. I hope all Hattiesburg voters and alumni will express their opposition to the bond issue based on the demolition done during the past year by Shelboo! Dear Fe...	Anon	57	1406	Sep 28, 2004 by ram
	more from cbedding (Preview) Professor Marc DePree Cost Accounting 320 Case: Installing an Academic Program in France Cost Benefit Analysis – A copy of the following Payment Request was collected in an exercise of the Mississippi Open Records Act. “PAYMENT REQUEST Invoice #: POINT1...	Aunt Bea	6	1096	Sep 28, 2004 by ram
	Open Door Policy (Preview) http://www.thedmonline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/09/28/41590f74f1f50	Swan Song	0	283	Sep 28, 2004 by Swan Song
	Liberty and Power entry worth commenting on (Preview) My colleague Charles Nuckolls, of the University of Alabama, has put a brief and very pessimistic entry about USM on Liberty and Power: http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/7571.html This is the third time (if memory serves) that Charles has blamed Thames' continued hold on power on Frank Glam...	Robert Campbell	12	604	Sep 28, 2004 by already gone
	negative story just on WDAM ( 1 2 ) (Preview) WDAM just reported on a student who withdrew from USM and enrolled at Belhaven, complaining that he/she was forced to read a book for an english class that was laced with sex, etc. He/she also reported that his/her foreign language teacher consistently used profanity in class. They in...	Messenger	33	1809	Sep 27, 2004 by Parchman's Presidential Cell Block
	USM Job Openings in Chronicle (Preview) http://chronicle.com/jobs/id.php?id=302221&pg=e	Emma	7	613	Sep 27, 2004 by thenextstateover
	Thames: "We took your CarryOver?" (Preview) In a meeting today with Department Chairs and various Deans, etc., President Thames was apparently completely surprised to hear that departments had their carryover monies wiped out recently (was that one source of the raises????) At first one person mentioned it as having happened at one depa...	What's That?	8	538	Sep 27, 2004 by Swan Song
	USM just eliminated the Monday-Wednesday class ... (Preview) option. Word swirling all over campus about it now. Students no longer have the option of taking 75 minute classes on Mondays and Wednesdays. These courses will revert back to 50 minute courses, and a Friday session will be added. Word on this is just getting to the stude...	The Bachelor	16	820	Sep 27, 2004 by Invictus
	Mr. Wonderful's Citation de la Semain: 9-26 (Preview) It’s a long story, but Mr. Wonderful is “unavailable” today. The last time I saw him he was at a casino blackjack table. He was winning big and I could not convince him to leave. He said, and I quote, “Luna, you take care of the awards and I’ll take care of business.” So mercy me, here I am IN CHARGE! It...	Mr. Wonderful's #1 Groupie	2	249	Sep 26, 2004 by Luna (#1 Groupie)
	Nom d'Aplomb Award, September 13-26 (Preview) With the passing of two weeks since the last Nom d'Aplomb award during which time we were mostly Out of Touch, the committee was left with a great deal of time to ponder the One More Question of What's in a Name so that we could choose the most deserving Poster Child. With the assistance of Occam to slice th...	Miss Information	0	228	Sep 26, 2004 by Miss Information
	USM AAUP Page 'hijacked'? (Preview) Just tried to open http://www.aaup-usm.org, and got a 'whois' search help page. Has the AAUP web page been 'hijacked,' or did somebody let the domain go un-renewed?	already gone	13	829	Sep 25, 2004 by Robert Campbell
	Liberty and Power entry on the rankings fiasco (Preview) I've posted an entry on Liberty and Power on USM's fall in the US News and World Report rankings. The link is http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/7553.html I plan to follow up with shorter items about the alleged uniqueness of the Economic Development program and about Noel Polk's departur...	Robert Campbell	4	354	Sep 24, 2004 by USM Sympathizer
	Know anything about the Anne Jordan case? (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040920/localnews/1270751.html	truth4usm/AH	19	920	Sep 23, 2004 by FFGTG
	Is this the judge? (Preview) I was stumbling around the web & fell across this photo, which I swear looks like El Presidenté decked out for an open hearing.	Invictus	3	514	Sep 22, 2004 by AmLitChick
	More from the Chronicle re: Noel Polk (Preview) This is from the 9/24/04 edition of the Chronicle, written by our old friend, Thomas Bartlett (he covered the Stringer/Glamser crisis for the Chronicle). It is in a section entitled "Peer Review" on page A7 (for those of you with hardcopies): LETTER RIP: First, Noel Polk quit. ...	truth4usm/AH	10	844	Sep 22, 2004 by ree
	See More #30 (Preview) This week's issue geocities.com/seemore004	See More	2	463	Sep 22, 2004 by Going, going, gone
	HA Letter (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040920/opinion/1270808.html	big ears	23	1020	Sep 22, 2004 by Invictus
	Article in Printz about Banners (Preview) Any body read the front page of the Student Printz? Seems residents of Weber Hall are requesting it's removal.	Green Hornet	13	562	Sep 22, 2004 by truth4usm/AH
	The Student Printz (Preview) Why is it no longer online?? It has been a month since its last issue was online. This stinks!	Shaft	1	360	Sep 22, 2004 by thirsting for news
	Value of liberal education (Preview) A glance at the current issue of "Peer Review": Teaching the importance of a liberal education Liberal education is undervalued, but graduate schools can help change that, says Carol Geary Schneider, president of the Association of American Colleges and Universities, which publi...	from the Chronicle	1	308	Sep 21, 2004 by USM Sympathizer
	Thames Petition (Preview) I periodically check in on the petition to see if there are any new names, and this morning saw a post to it that I think Truth needs to see and consider deleting if she can. It has a very negative message (toward the cause) which does not fit in, and the person doesn't sign their...	Let Freedom Ring	7	796	Sep 20, 2004 by truth4usm/AH
	3 Questions about USM's Grad B-School.... (Preview) 1. Who was the B-School's grad programs director from about 2000-2003? 2. What are the admissions requirements like for the MBA program? 3. Where do USM's MBA students come from? (what undegrad inst.? etc.)	Gibronni	0	349	Sep 20, 2004 by Gibronni
	The Independent does it again! ( 1 2 ) (Preview) “The Independent” dated September 16, 2004 has the following article on the front page: “”SOUTHERN FUMBLES THE BALL” Some excerpts from the article: “This week, another national publication, Business Week magazine, listed its evaluation of Masters of Business Administration pr...	Reporter	36	1220	Sep 19, 2004 by Emma fan
	Editorial on Public Education in Mississippi (Preview) There was a good editorial on public education, including colleges and universities, in this morning's (September 18) Hattiesburg American. I'm surprised nobody has hotlinked it on the message board: State must reformulate priorities	Late night reader	1	334	Sep 19, 2004 by Otherside
	RSS Newsfeed & Mozilla Sidebar Revisited (Preview) The scraper program that generates the RSS newsfeed for this message board has been revised to handle some changes that Activeboard made a while back in the HTML code behind these pages. The newsfeed is compatible with standard...	Invictus' IT Director	0	247	Sep 18, 2004 by Invictus' IT Director
	Online Economic Development Degree -- Free! Now! (Preview) Get your free online Economic Development Numerology degree. (The name you enter is not logged & no attempt is made to figure out your IP address.)	Invictus	28	1189	Sep 18, 2004 by The Carpenter
	SFT is not a wise man (Preview) It just occurred to me that when the winds from IVAN come to Hattiesburg, that SFT may have a new problem. During the summer, Shelby was quoted as saying “God speaks to me and tells me what I’m doing is right” I don’t believe Shelby is a wise nor humble man before the LORD. ...	Green Hornet	28	1148	Sep 18, 2004 by Swan Song
	PC & Economic Development ( 1 2 3 4 ) (Preview) At the last PC meeting, it was mentioned during the discussion of USM's "credibility" that Mader’s PR used terms like "unique", "one of a kind", "comprehensive" and "world class" when discussing USM economic development program. As a result SFT said he would ask Ken Malone to address the next PC abo...	Investigator	110	1554	Sep 18, 2004 by Answer
	FromPicayune paper (Preview) http://www.picayuneitem.com/articles/2004/09/16/news/07pipe.txt	Shaft	0	324	Sep 18, 2004 by Shaft
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