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Cohort

Here are some excerpts from an article on page 10: Southern to Shout its successes . . . This week, at a rally of some 250 supporters of USM's President Shelby Thames, friends of the president and the University, meeting at a site off campus and closed to the media, decided to wage a campaign t...

Al Dente

Dear Truth, Shucks! When I first saw reference to a protest by a group of faculty at a dentist's office I was hoping that this was the big event you had been planning. You mean this protest at the dentist's office didn't really happen? Sounds like a great idea. Your friend, Al...

First Ant at the Picnic

I have noticed that the liberal arts faculty at USM has been subject to a great deal of haughty contempt as reflected by letters-to-the-editor and some other community sources. If one were to give these same letter writers and other community sources just 15 seconds to...

waltersboy

If, as many of you are suggesting, there was no protest at Dr. Drews dental office, then Kevin Walters needs to be contacted. The lying that is going on in the bidness community needs to be exposed further.

ssDude

Was Dean Pood Hired By Thames? Who did Pood replace? Thank you.

tater

After the IHL Board meets with the SACS consultant (Margaret) today, they have a meeting scheduled with Lisa Mader. Both are closed-door. What is going on?

Stanley Hauer

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Cohort

Here are some excerpts: "Closed" Meeting to boost USM a contradiction ...Every resident should be aware of the economic and cultural impact Southern Miss has not only on the community but on the state as a whole. The University, in fact, has an office of public information and public rela...

Reporter

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050315/OPINION03/503150331/1014/OPINION

Robert Campbell

I was as pleased as anyone here to see the nursing story finally break yesterday in the Hat Am. If I hadn't had so many tests to grade, I might have gotten a scoop, but I don't have a whole lot of regrets about that. Liberty and Power is really for opinion pieces. I did try to supply some backg...

Green Hornet

3/11/2005 (JACKSON, MISS. ) - The Board of Trustees of State Institutions of Higher Learning (IHL) will meet at the IHL Board office in Jackson next week. Among other business items, the Board will discuss issues related to the 2005 Legislative Session and hear an update on the commissione...

Green Hornet

The following is a revised post (with corrected typos, sorry I was in a hurry the first time.) I made on Sunday afternoon to the thread started by Kudzu King. So, Kudzu King, you out there? Please below and respond. I want to know if you're "for real" or just another fake. Our goals ma...

Amy Young

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050315/NEWS01/503150316/1002

Amy Young

This information may have been researched here on this board before, so I apologize if I am duplicating. My question is how many universities and colleges have dumped their presidents when they found themselve on probation from SACS or another accrediting body? Secondly, how many un...

Reporter

USM will give report on probation By Kevin Waltershttp://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050316/NEWS01/503160311/1002

Reporter

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050316/OPINION04/503160325/1014/OPINION

truth4usm/AH

Ray, please email me at: truth@FireThames.com I have an important issue to discuss with you, and I look forward to hearing from you. Andrea Hewitt (aka Truth) PS--Many on the board can vouch that this is indeed really me, and it's my real email address.

Third Witch

http://www.thecrimson.com/today/article506432.html The thing I found most striking was that President Summers was present for the vote. Can anyone imagine SFT having that kind of courage? When you think of the issues USM's faculty is dealing with, and compare our situation to theirs...

Gnome Watcher

This is the complete list of "talking points" put forth at the "bidness meeting" held tonight at Elks Lake, as posted by FSWWT on another thread. *********************** Enrollment: Southern Miss has experienced an increase in enrollment again for the 2004-2005 academic year ...

Reporter

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050315/NEWS01/50315002

king crab

I spoke with a contact at SACS today. They are very interested in comments by Scott Ross, and have read accounts of outside pressure on him to vote for Shelby. The USM consultant has also provided information to them about Ross' interactions with business people and his desire to replic...

info

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050315/NEWS010504/503150381/1002

Reporter

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050314/OPINION03/503140324/1014/OPINION

SaveUSM

I found out some things I had not known before so I thought it was worth posting. Commission on Colleges Southern Association of Colleges and Schools http://www.sacscoc.org Questions Regarding the Status of UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI Hattiesburg, Mississippi Issue...

truth4usm/AH

Anyone else seen this email? Strategic Plan Brown-Bag Open Forum The University Planning Committee invites you to a Strategic Plan Brown-Bag Open Forum. Two such forums have been scheduled to give the university community an opportunity to comment on the planning document. Managed by m...

A Visitor

Many questions would be resolved for the community if we could discuss what started all of this. What is the bottom line problem that caused us to go down this path? I have heard the following: 1. It first started when SFT hired upper administrators without national searches and faculty inpu...

USM Sympathizer

Since it seems obvious that SFT could never be president of any other university, is there any position at USM that would be acceptable both to SFT and his backers and to the rest of the university community? In other words, is there any office he could hold at USM that would give him a sufficient s...

Green Hornet

This is a repeat of a thread I started back in February for the last IHL meeting. We had just had the Grimes/Doty letters published in the HA, and discussion speculated about the upcoming actions of IHL. Below is my post bolded with additional comments at the bottom: Februa...

ssDude

Please distribute to your students. This is a great idea, and I applaud the library administration for taking the time to do it. "Style Guide Workshops" Cook Library is offering workshops on the basics of MLA, APA and Turabian. Introduction to APA Tuesday, March 29 4-4:45 p.m. Int...

Placido Dominican

Just heard at the coffee shop that Pood's long essay in the HA last week had "dome approval." It wasn't that bad (for them), and delayed (or maybe prevented) printing of some letters that were supposedly more harmful to SFT & pals. He was actually "still playing ball," according to s...

Herald

Andrea, you ROCK!!! Thank you for being our fortress in times of distress. Thank you for speaking out and having the guts to represent us Thank you for being the go between when we have to watch our backs. Thank you for whatever you now have up your sleeve.

Herald

To the person who dared to be heard, To the person who had the willpower to bring a community together, To the person who gave us a forum to realize that we weren't all singularly going bonkers, Fire Shelby - thank you. (Andrea Hewitt deserves similar praise - let's give her a Kudos site too)

e-mail pill

Beware of Internet/phone work in your campus office (of late). Surveillance equipment is being added.

Advocate

This term is thrown about quite frequently. I think it would be a good idea for the new visitors to the board to have some of the faculty at USM and other schools write about what this means and why it is so important. Thanks.

Outside Observer

Is anyone aware of anything like this - by "this" I mean so many people so strongly opposing a college president - happening at any other campus???

Cossack

After I read many of the posts that revere SFT and hate the faculty, I began to wonder when the faculty went bad. Before SFT took over, the same faculty was able to function well enough to move USM up inch by inch. It was slow, but it was steady, and the result of faculty and administrators working together...

SaveUSM

I posted this once and it didn't show up so I'm hoping I don't double post. The images, links and guestbook should all be working now. Please direct students to this site..I think it is the easiest way to get to the message board. If anyone has email addresses of interested students, send me an email...

ssDude

I posted something here yesterday about the latest campaign against Thames--and what seems to be also against the business community. I forget what the subject line was, but I asked for more information about what was going on. I cannot find that post. What happened?

Just an opinion

Just an opinion

Patti

I stated once before that there are two sides to every story. So far the supporters of Thames haven't said much about their side. But, what I really want here is a discussion on intellectual freedom. I talked to a friend of mine tonight, I work with this gentleman, and have shared some of th...

stephen judd

The "Brain Trust" has advised the following four passages might most specifically speak to the questions you have: From SACS Principles of Accreditation: Section 3.24. The governing Board is free from undue influence from political, religious, or other external bodies, and protects the in...

Soothsayer

What will happen next?

Just an opinion

A few years ago, when my state was facing a major budget crisis and funding for education at all levels was being threatened, I suggested on a statewide message board that funding for athletics should be cut before funding for actual classroom education was touched. This suggestion ignited a...

Kudzu King

Guys Wake up here. Thames did not violate any SACS rules in the college restructing (which is the only thing he's done I supported). Thames only proposed the changes, the IHL is the body that made the changes. Thames is not your problem, so don't go running to the IHL to fix your problem...

Cossack

It is ironic that someone who feels comfortable berating faculty has a business called Courtesy Ford. Where I grew up, FORD meant Fix Or Repair Daily. I think I get the connection, Discourteous Ford and Tear Down and Demean. Who knew that Mr. Mixon was such a deep thinker?

Angeline

All of us who have had to work through the nightmare of the Thames Administration know who has committed violence and who wages literal war on others: Shelby F. Thames. Because he cannot justify his crude decisions, SFT frequently resorts to violence: firing people without cause or warning, send...

SSdude

Hello all. I have been out of the picture for a while due to my new job and doctoral studies. In the papers lately I have seen your new campaign on Thames’ “attack on liberal arts” and it seems as though you are even going up against the business community for some reason. Other th...

SaveUSM

Can someone please clarify the violence thing...I must have missed a post. I know a copy of some of these posts was circulated at the big 'bout it bidness meetin' and, I know someone said he was packing heat in his car because he was afraid of faculty members (lol) BUT whose posts were circulate...

fallen eagle

Reading the "Mixonesque" interpretation of higher education made me consider that if you're wanting to buy a Ford, which dealership would you choose? Courtesy Ford - Bob Mixon - part of the "pave over the truth" cabal Mack Grubbs Ford (Columbia, MS) - Mr. Grubbs, from Bogalusa, is a friend and su...

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	article in The Independent 3/17/05 (Preview) Here are some excerpts from an article on page 10: Southern to Shout its successes . . . This week, at a rally of some 250 supporters of USM's President Shelby Thames, friends of the president and the University, meeting at a site off campus and closed to the media, decided to wage a campaign t...	Cohort	22	563	Mar 16, 2005 by stinky cheese man
	Question for Truth4USM (Preview) Dear Truth, Shucks! When I first saw reference to a protest by a group of faculty at a dentist's office I was hoping that this was the big event you had been planning. You mean this protest at the dentist's office didn't really happen? Sounds like a great idea. Your friend, Al...	Al Dente	1	419	Mar 16, 2005 by truth4usm/AH
	It's no longer a picnic (Preview) I have noticed that the liberal arts faculty at USM has been subject to a great deal of haughty contempt as reflected by letters-to-the-editor and some other community sources. If one were to give these same letter writers and other community sources just 15 seconds to...	First Ant at the Picnic	3	402	Mar 16, 2005 by still counting
	protest at Dr. Drews office (Preview) If, as many of you are suggesting, there was no protest at Dr. Drews dental office, then Kevin Walters needs to be contacted. The lying that is going on in the bidness community needs to be exposed further.	waltersboy	3	435	Mar 16, 2005 by Andy
	Was Dean Pood Hired By Thames? (Preview) Was Dean Pood Hired By Thames? Who did Pood replace? Thank you.	ssDude	4	456	Mar 16, 2005 by truth4usm/AH
	What do you guys make of this? (Preview) After the IHL Board meets with the SACS consultant (Margaret) today, they have a meeting scheduled with Lisa Mader. Both are closed-door. What is going on?	tater	10	752	Mar 16, 2005 by kick
	The full text of Dean Harper's letter (Preview) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------	Stanley Hauer	7	660	Mar 16, 2005 by The Bump
	The Independent Editorial 3/17/05 (Preview) Here are some excerpts: "Closed" Meeting to boost USM a contradiction ...Every resident should be aware of the economic and cultural impact Southern Miss has not only on the community but on the state as a whole. The University, in fact, has an office of public information and public rela...	Cohort	1	325	Mar 16, 2005 by Patti
	H.A.-Letter (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050315/OPINION03/503150331/1014/OPINION	Reporter	19	696	Mar 16, 2005 by stephen judd
	L and P on the decline and fall of nursing (Preview) I was as pleased as anyone here to see the nursing story finally break yesterday in the Hat Am. If I hadn't had so many tests to grade, I might have gotten a scoop, but I don't have a whole lot of regrets about that. Liberty and Power is really for opinion pieces. I did try to supply some backg...	Robert Campbell	13	533	Mar 16, 2005 by Robert Campbell
	FYI: Schedule for IHL March 16th-17th (Preview) 3/11/2005 (JACKSON, MISS. ) - The Board of Trustees of State Institutions of Higher Learning (IHL) will meet at the IHL Board office in Jackson next week. Among other business items, the Board will discuss issues related to the 2005 Legislative Session and hear an update on the commissione...	Green Hornet	8	633	Mar 16, 2005 by Patti
	New Message to Kudzu King (Preview) The following is a revised post (with corrected typos, sorry I was in a hurry the first time.) I made on Sunday afternoon to the thread started by Kudzu King. So, Kudzu King, you out there? Please below and respond. I want to know if you're "for real" or just another fake. Our goals ma...	Green Hornet	13	771	Mar 16, 2005 by stinky cheese man
	nursing program in danger (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050315/NEWS01/503150316/1002	Amy Young	27	1035	Mar 16, 2005 by Outside Observer
	how many presidents survive probation? (Preview) This information may have been researched here on this board before, so I apologize if I am duplicating. My question is how many universities and colleges have dumped their presidents when they found themselve on probation from SACS or another accrediting body? Secondly, how many un...	Amy Young	19	1559	Mar 16, 2005 by USM Sympathizer
	H.A. 3/16/05 (Preview) USM will give report on probation By Kevin Waltershttp://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050316/NEWS01/503160311/1002	Reporter	2	369	Mar 16, 2005 by Reporter
	H.A. OPINION (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050316/OPINION04/503160325/1014/OPINION	Reporter	0	331	Mar 16, 2005 by Reporter
	Message to Ray Folse (Preview) Ray, please email me at: truth@FireThames.com I have an important issue to discuss with you, and I look forward to hearing from you. Andrea Hewitt (aka Truth) PS--Many on the board can vouch that this is indeed really me, and it's my real email address.	truth4usm/AH	5	552	Mar 16, 2005 by truth4usm/AH
	How they do it at Harvard (Preview) http://www.thecrimson.com/today/article506432.html The thing I found most striking was that President Summers was present for the vote. Can anyone imagine SFT having that kind of courage? When you think of the issues USM's faculty is dealing with, and compare our situation to theirs...	Third Witch	2	356	Mar 15, 2005 by USM Sympathizer
	"The List" (Preview) This is the complete list of "talking points" put forth at the "bidness meeting" held tonight at Elks Lake, as posted by FSWWT on another thread. *********************** Enrollment: Southern Miss has experienced an increase in enrollment again for the 2004-2005 academic year ...	Gnome Watcher	10	2801	Mar 15, 2005 by stephen judd
	H.A. Update (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050315/NEWS01/50315002	Reporter	2	422	Mar 15, 2005 by stephen judd
	interesting tidbits from SACS contact (Preview) I spoke with a contact at SACS today. They are very interested in comments by Scott Ross, and have read accounts of outside pressure on him to vote for Shelby. The USM consultant has also provided information to them about Ross' interactions with business people and his desire to replic...	king crab	6	844	Mar 15, 2005 by stephen judd
	SFT on possible budget cuts (Preview) http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050315/NEWS010504/503150381/1002	info	12	798	Mar 15, 2005 by Soothsayer
	H.A. Letter (Preview) http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050314/OPINION03/503140324/1014/OPINION	Reporter	14	773	Mar 15, 2005 by The Rock
	I'm sure you've all read this but (Preview) I found out some things I had not known before so I thought it was worth posting. Commission on Colleges Southern Association of Colleges and Schools http://www.sacscoc.org Questions Regarding the Status of UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI Hattiesburg, Mississippi Issue...	SaveUSM	1	405	Mar 15, 2005 by Patti
	Strategic Plan Brown-Bag Open Forum (Preview) Anyone else seen this email? Strategic Plan Brown-Bag Open Forum The University Planning Committee invites you to a Strategic Plan Brown-Bag Open Forum. Two such forums have been scheduled to give the university community an opportunity to comment on the planning document. Managed by m...	truth4usm/AH	0	362	Mar 15, 2005 by truth4usm/AH
	What Started it All-Bottom Line ( 1 2 3 ) (Preview) Many questions would be resolved for the community if we could discuss what started all of this. What is the bottom line problem that caused us to go down this path? I have heard the following: 1. It first started when SFT hired upper administrators without national searches and faculty inpu...	A Visitor	60	1401	Mar 15, 2005 by stephen judd
	Serious Question about SFT (Preview) Since it seems obvious that SFT could never be president of any other university, is there any position at USM that would be acceptable both to SFT and his backers and to the rest of the university community? In other words, is there any office he could hold at USM that would give him a sufficient s...	USM Sympathizer	2	482	Mar 15, 2005 by Robert Campbell
	Prediction of March 17th IHL Meeting (Preview) This is a repeat of a thread I started back in February for the last IHL meeting. We had just had the Grimes/Doty letters published in the HA, and discussion speculated about the upcoming actions of IHL. Below is my post bolded with additional comments at the bottom: Februa...	Green Hornet	14	667	Mar 15, 2005 by CISED
	Library Workshops On Citation Styles (Preview) Please distribute to your students. This is a great idea, and I applaud the library administration for taking the time to do it. "Style Guide Workshops" Cook Library is offering workshops on the basics of MLA, APA and Turabian. Introduction to APA Tuesday, March 29 4-4:45 p.m. Int...	ssDude	3	370	Mar 15, 2005 by ssDude
	Pood's Essay had "dome approval" (Preview) Just heard at the coffee shop that Pood's long essay in the HA last week had "dome approval." It wasn't that bad (for them), and delayed (or maybe prevented) printing of some letters that were supposedly more harmful to SFT & pals. He was actually "still playing ball," according to s...	Placido Dominican	4	550	Mar 15, 2005 by Liberal Arts faculty member
	TRUTH TRIBUTE (Preview) Andrea, you ROCK!!! Thank you for being our fortress in times of distress. Thank you for speaking out and having the guts to represent us Thank you for being the go between when we have to watch our backs. Thank you for whatever you now have up your sleeve.	Herald	8	401	Mar 15, 2005 by arkangel
	FIRE SHELBY TRIBUTE (Preview) To the person who dared to be heard, To the person who had the willpower to bring a community together, To the person who gave us a forum to realize that we weren't all singularly going bonkers, Fire Shelby - thank you. (Andrea Hewitt deserves similar praise - let's give her a Kudos site too)	Herald	5	375	Mar 15, 2005 by arkangel
	new surveillance equip installed on campus (Preview) Beware of Internet/phone work in your campus office (of late). Surveillance equipment is being added.	e-mail pill	20	792	Mar 15, 2005 by stephen judd
	Shared Governance (Preview) This term is thrown about quite frequently. I think it would be a good idea for the new visitors to the board to have some of the faculty at USM and other schools write about what this means and why it is so important. Thanks.	Advocate	5	618	Mar 15, 2005 by USM Sympathizer
	USM Situation (Preview) Is anyone aware of anything like this - by "this" I mean so many people so strongly opposing a college president - happening at any other campus???	Outside Observer	4	370	Mar 15, 2005 by Just an opinion
	When Did The Faculty Go Bad? (Preview) After I read many of the posts that revere SFT and hate the faculty, I began to wonder when the faculty went bad. Before SFT took over, the same faculty was able to function well enough to move USM up inch by inch. It was slow, but it was steady, and the result of faculty and administrators working together...	Cossack	21	619	Mar 15, 2005 by Outside Observer
	Website much improved (Preview) I posted this once and it didn't show up so I'm hoping I don't double post. The images, links and guestbook should all be working now. Please direct students to this site..I think it is the easiest way to get to the message board. If anyone has email addresses of interested students, send me an email...	SaveUSM	0	299	Mar 15, 2005 by SaveUSM
	Where's My Post: Did nobody respond? (Preview) I posted something here yesterday about the latest campaign against Thames--and what seems to be also against the business community. I forget what the subject line was, but I asked for more information about what was going on. I cannot find that post. What happened?	ssDude	1	326	Mar 15, 2005 by No longer page 1
	Too bad every Thames isn't this appealing (Preview)	Just an opinion	1	331	Mar 15, 2005 by Two Thamin'
	How Shelby and Malone are seen by some folks (Preview)	Just an opinion	1	367	Mar 14, 2005 by OMEGA
	Intellectual Freedom (Preview) I stated once before that there are two sides to every story. So far the supporters of Thames haven't said much about their side. But, what I really want here is a discussion on intellectual freedom. I talked to a friend of mine tonight, I work with this gentleman, and have shared some of th...	Patti	5	399	Mar 14, 2005 by LVN
	Visitor's Sacs questions (Preview) The "Brain Trust" has advised the following four passages might most specifically speak to the questions you have: From SACS Principles of Accreditation: Section 3.24. The governing Board is free from undue influence from political, religious, or other external bodies, and protects the in...	stephen judd	5	378	Mar 14, 2005 by Invictus
	Beware the Ides of March (Preview) What will happen next?	Soothsayer	0	321	Mar 14, 2005 by Soothsayer
	The corrupting influence of "pro" athletics (Preview) A few years ago, when my state was facing a major budget crisis and funding for education at all levels was being threatened, I suggested on a statewide message board that funding for athletics should be cut before funding for actual classroom education was touched. This suggestion ignited a...	Just an opinion	1	378	Mar 14, 2005 by Just an opinion
	Thames and the SACS Violations (Preview) Guys Wake up here. Thames did not violate any SACS rules in the college restructing (which is the only thing he's done I supported). Thames only proposed the changes, the IHL is the body that made the changes. Thames is not your problem, so don't go running to the IHL to fix your problem...	Kudzu King	28	754	Mar 14, 2005 by Freud
	Courtesy Ford, an Oxymoron (Preview) It is ironic that someone who feels comfortable berating faculty has a business called Courtesy Ford. Where I grew up, FORD meant Fix Or Repair Daily. I think I get the connection, Discourteous Ford and Tear Down and Demean. Who knew that Mr. Mixon was such a deep thinker?	Cossack	15	614	Mar 14, 2005 by Third Witch
	Who Incites Violence? (Preview) All of us who have had to work through the nightmare of the Thames Administration know who has committed violence and who wages literal war on others: Shelby F. Thames. Because he cannot justify his crude decisions, SFT frequently resorts to violence: firing people without cause or warning, send...	Angeline	14	674	Mar 14, 2005 by Robert Campbell
	Need Info On Thames/Senate/Business/Lib.Arts Issue (Preview) Hello all. I have been out of the picture for a while due to my new job and doctoral studies. In the papers lately I have seen your new campaign on Thames’ “attack on liberal arts” and it seems as though you are even going up against the business community for some reason. Other th...	SSdude	2	474	Mar 14, 2005 by truth4usm/AH
	More (on) Violence Please! (Preview) Can someone please clarify the violence thing...I must have missed a post. I know a copy of some of these posts was circulated at the big 'bout it bidness meetin' and, I know someone said he was packing heat in his car because he was afraid of faculty members (lol) BUT whose posts were circulate...	SaveUSM	6	373	Mar 14, 2005 by SaveUSM
	You bought your car WHERE? (Preview) Reading the "Mixonesque" interpretation of higher education made me consider that if you're wanting to buy a Ford, which dealership would you choose? Courtesy Ford - Bob Mixon - part of the "pave over the truth" cabal Mack Grubbs Ford (Columbia, MS) - Mr. Grubbs, from Bogalusa, is a friend and su...	fallen eagle	1	359	Mar 14, 2005 by LVN
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