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Confidential USM search gets support


http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061119/NEWS01/611190313/1002


"The Southern Miss Faculty Senate, which has had a turbulent relationship with the College Board in recent years, has come out in support of Meredith's search process.


And at a recent series of meetings about the search between College Board members and various Southern Miss constituency groups, including staff, students, foundation members, athletics leaders, administrators and others, not a single question came up about candidate secrecy.


"The faculty at large want a successful search result - the best possible president for (Southern Miss)," Faculty Senate President Myron Henry said. "To use the commissioner's words, we want the process to be as transparent as possible. It's a compromise the Faculty Senate made, that 'transparent as possible' does not have to mean open interviews (with several candidates) at the end."

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Suggestion For Search Committee and Search Advisory Committee.


Use the "head football coach model search process."


Briefly, the process is as follows. When you have a real loser as coach and the decision is made to replace him everybody gets active. The AD(the commissioner) leads the process. The AD seeks input from everbody. The AD, and others, identify a short list of coaches that are real winnners and every effort is made to recruit the best qualified person for the position. The power structure in the athletic community plays a big role in the final decision. Depending on your record, you may not be able to attract the top notch candidates who have served as head coaches. This leaves you with having to consider assistant coaches (provosts or vps or generals) that have potential. When a final decision is made the AD gets the credit or blame.


Seriously, if the top notch people were identifed in the prez search process, and every effort was made to attract the right person, would we not be better off in the long run?



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Coaches like to be mentioned as possibilities for other schools because it increases their value. Potential presidents may not wish to appear as crass.

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The difference is that the coaches in Alias' suggestion are being recruited. An organization should feel honored to have people being recruited by others...but to have someone apply and there for seek out another job is different.

I really like this idea. A group would fly around, get the permission of whatever board controls the school (like getting the AD permission), and then try to recruit the person. If they say no, move on to the next.

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I see that an article scheduled to appear in tomorrow's issue of Chronicle of Higher Education reports that the median annual pay of college and university presidents at public institutions is now $374,846, about 4% higher than last year's median of 360,000. The highest paid president is that of the University of Delaware ($979,571), followed by Purdue University ($880,950), with the University of washingon ranked third ($752,300). The median annual salary of president's of private schools is even higher with Wilmington College (in Delaware) ranked first (that particular figure includes benefits to be paid at retirement). The salaries are, evidently, driven by stiff competition for the best candidates. Does anyone out there know what USM is prepared to pay, or is that also "confidential"?

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I see that an article scheduled to appear in tomorrow's issue of Chronicle of Higher Education reports that the median annual pay of college and university presidents at public institutions is now $374,846, about 4% higher than last year's median of 360,000. The highest paid president is that of the University of Delaware ($979,571), followed by Purdue University ($880,950), with the University of washingon ranked third ($752,300). The median annual salary of president's of private schools is even higher with Wilmington College (in Delaware) ranked first (that particular figure includes benefits to be paid at retirement). The salaries are, evidently, driven by stiff competition for the best candidates. Does anyone out there know what USM is prepared to pay, or is that also "confidential"?

I failed to mention that, among presidents of the private schools,the salary at Wilmington College (in Delaware) is 2.7 million, followed by Lynn University (in Boca Raton) at $1.3 million), with Vanderbilt University (in Music City) ranked third at $1.2 million. (Maybe it won't be long before the position of a college's president is more lucrative than that of its football coach).

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First Ant at the Picnic wrote:

Does anyone out there know what USM is prepared to pay, or is that also "confidential"?


As of July 1, 2006:

Thames's pay is $210,000 plus $50,000 from the USM Foundation.

Khayat's pay is $210,000 plus $199,000 from the UM Foundation.

Foglesong's pay is $210,000 plus $200,000 from the MSU Foundation.

There are also houses, cars, allowances, and other untraceable perks.


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There are also . . . other untraceable perks.


Such as "shoe contracts?" (just kidding).

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First Ant at the Picnic wrote


Does anyone out there know what USM is prepared to pay, or is that also "confidential"?


As of July 1, 2006:

Thames's pay is $210,000 plus $50,000 from the USM Foundation.
Khayat's pay is $210,000 plus $199,000 from the UM Foundation.
Foglesong's pay is $210,000 plus $200,000 from the MSU Foundation.

There are also houses, cars, allowances, and other untraceable perks.



Here's what the Chronicle says:


Robert H. Foglesong, 2006-7: Total Compensation $432,730; $409,000 Salary, Plus use of house and $23,730 retirement pay


Robert C. Khayat, 2006-7: Total Compensation $442,900; $409,000 Salary, Plus Use of car, use of house, $16,950 employee benefits, $16,950 retirement pay, club dues


Shelby F. Thames, 2006-7: Total Compensation $307,480; $275,000 Salary, Plus $8,750 car, use of house, $23,700 retirement pay, club dues


 


 



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Here's what the Chronicle says:


Robert H. Foglesong, 2006-7: Total Compensation $432,730; $409,000 Salary, Plus use of house and $23,730 retirement pay


Robert C. Khayat, 2006-7: Total Compensation $442,900; $409,000 Salary, Plus Use of car, use of house, $16,950 employee benefits, $16,950 retirement pay, club dues


Shelby F. Thames, 2006-7: Total Compensation $307,480; $275,000 Salary, Plus $8,750 car, use of house, $23,700 retirement pay, club dues



These figures remind me of the wisdom in Luke 12:48: "To whomsoever much is given, of him much will be required; and to whom much was entrusted, of him more will be expected."

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A most profound and wise observation, Mr. Ant. One is also reminded of the parable of the talents.

No matter what one earns, all is left behind at the end.

Good afternoon to all,

Hermione Angleterre

-- Edited by Chez de Guerre at 15:05, 2006-11-20

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First Ant at the Picnic wrote:


info wrote:

There are also . . . other untraceable perks.


Such as "shoe contracts?" (just kidding).

What kind of shoe do you think that would be?  Are we talking basketball shoes, wing tips, or what???

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BAD wrote:

First Ant at the Picnic wrote:


info wrote:

There are also . . . other untraceable perks.


Such as "shoe contracts?" (just kidding).

What kind of shoe do you think that would be?  Are we talking basketball shoes, wing tips, or what???


In the case of USM they would be walking shoes.

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