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Originally posted by: USM Nurse Prof
"Green Hornet, See my response on Would you send ......to USM.   Thanks"

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I did, thank you for responding.  Reason I ask was that my sources inform me that SFT had a "hard" time getting the grads to respond to his "Southern Miss to the Top".  He had to do this three times and the grads failed to respond to his call twice, and on the third time a small group of grads offered a "weak"  "Southern Miss to the Top".  Just trying to confirm..........................

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Originally posted by: USM Nurse Prof
" Ohhhhh I see.  Forgive my failure to understand, Green Hornet,   I think directness is best when you need information from me!  Yes, that is true. Most of the reply on the third time was from the audience. Other than that, the faculty were on a flat floor, and we were in the back behind the students, so not much was seen.    I think the potential meaning of that low level of response had escaped me, until you asked.   Sorry!"

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Sorry I was not more direct in my question.  My point in asking is that students have a long memory.  The evening graduation consisted of COAL, COH, COST.  Many of the students in COAL remember the loss of Gary S and Frank G.  The Nursing students (which I believe make up a large number of the COH grads this evening loss their college and many of this faculty.  This administration has targeted the Nursing program since it’s students staged a protest on the reorganization of the colleges.  Many of the nursing faculty have left and gone to other institutions.  Many of your alumni may harbor ill feelings toward USM as long as SFT is here at USM.  As pointed out by “Parents of Graduate of USM Nursing Program”, the Nursing program has been a good selling point for this university. The parents also pointed out that USM needs to promote this program.  This is not being done.

Not to be rude, GH and Invictus, but the football game is on.... Bye

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Originally posted by: USM Nurse Prof
"Green Hornet,   I think directness is best when you need information from me!"

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Yes, Hornet, it is essential that you be very direct when speaking with a nurse. Otherwise, you might get your shot in the wrong place (in the left arm rather than the right arm).

Nursing is one of the most admirable professions of all. I sincerely hope all the best to the Nursing profs and students. You all are truly admired.

That's one reason why there's a high burnout rate among nurses & a continual need for strong programs to educate new ones. I hope USM really is getting back on track in this important area.

My hat's always off to nursing instructors, too. The lecture component is tough & the clinicals can be physically demanding. It takes a lot of dedication, both to the profession & the students. My experience has been that nursing students are, as a group, "high maintenance."

One reason that as a TA I used to love teaching at 8 am, got a high % of nursing students, and they were generally well-organized and dedicated students who were a joy to teach.
My ideal class for English comp: some nursing students, some returning military, a couple of older women with attitudes, some tortured-soul-brilliant-writers, several graduates of Catholic high school (or other private school), some people with jobs and children, and some new freshmen 18 year olds with a million questions and lots of energy. Put together, shake well, and stand back. The instructor is almost superfluous! (The categories are not mutually exclusive.)

Wow, what a great compliment to nurses, from everyone. I appreciate it very much.  Now I have to brag. 

 Here at USM we take only the best and brightest students, and then we can start turning them into nurses...Which has quite a religious and militaristic heritage. Nursing school is like boot camp.

Most people (unless you have witnessed a nursing student going through school) don't realize how much you have to learn...18 credits a semester for 2 years, for just the Nursing part. That means long hours in clinicals...so if 8 hours of your 18 credits is clinical at the hospital, or community clinics, etc, then you are actually spending 24 hours in contact with your professor and patients, and the other 10 hours are spent in classes..(all nursing classes) ...and there are lots of tests (we don't give the questions ahead of time, BTW...and analytical and synthesis papers and presentations, and homework assignments...so, they spend pretty much all of thier time studying.   Nursing professors are merciless in packing in every ounce of information and case studies that our nurses need to take care of us all when we get old or sick or have a baby! 

A senior nursing student is expected to read a chart, including the Dr. Notes and Orders and determine if there are any errors, then have the communication skills and assertiveness to tell the Dr. that there is a problem.  Most physicians highly value their nurse colleagues...and the public does so as well....

Nurses have consistently been rated as the most ethical of all the professions...except after 9/11, when it went to the firefighters, a very deserved rating!. 

  Nurses, like University  Professors answer to thier professional responsibilities first and foremost, not hospitals and physicians (though they are respected colleagues) for the good of the person being treated. It is in our Code of Ethics. 

Well, that is your Professional Nursing 101 lecture for the day. This will be on the test.  Thank you.

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Originally posted by: foot soldier
"And don't forget that they have to have the social skills and good humor to jolly a person who has just had surgery into getting out of bed. (I'll never forget the one that got me to do it!) Looks like they're learning how to perform miracles daily. "

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Yeah..we call that Nursing course :

"Helping sick, hurting, angry, scared, groggy people do really painful things for thier own good" or.."Making your post op patient into a jolly jogger".

Well, the students of USM Nursing were not in agreement with the reorganization. The news of the reorg. was announced on a Thurs or Friday. On Monday, the Nursing students had gotten together a protest at the dome. This was before most of us faculty even knew what had happened. Believe me, they didn't ask faculty for permission. All of those social sciences, advocacy, critical thinking and communication courses, you know. I am sure the administration looked askance at this type of public activitiy.