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Date: Jul 23, 2004

RE: Reasons Pood should not be provost

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: stinky cheese man
"i am technologically impaired. where do you people find these "emoticons"? i'm still stuck in straight text."

They are right above the "submit post" button (click "more" to see the full menu).

Glad to help

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: stinky cheese man
"i am technologically impaired. where do you people find these "emoticons"? i'm still stuck in straight text."

Below the comment box on the message composition form is a little section with some smilies. You can click those to insert the code. Click "more >>" under the smilie icons to get a much bigger list. Those aren't clickable -- you have to copy/paste or type in the code, which is bracketed between colons.

So :batman: give you the

emoticon.

(I hope the example works...)

Date: Jul 23, 2004

thanks truth, i guess i'm a straight text guy. i'll leave the emoticons to you young "whipper-snappers." i'm just a geezer with good fingers.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: stinky cheese man
"i am technologically impaired. where do you people find these "emoticons"? i'm still stuck in straight text."

Who do you think we are, stinky, the iTech help desk?

Just kidding-- the emoticons are available if you use Internet Explorer as your web browser.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: stinky cheese man
"i am technologically impaired. where do you people find these "emoticons"? i'm still stuck in straight text."

They're at the bottom right of my screen when I reply to a post, and there is a "more" link to tons of them. When I was using an outdated browser I couldn't get them to work. Also if you know the word for them, you can (I think) write it in between two colons. Let's see if this works:

Date: Jul 23, 2004

thank y'all. i don't know i'll use them but at least i know where i can find them.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

A good excuse to use these

. Yee Haw

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Googler
"I remember . . . David Huffman . . . as the VPAA . . ."

You should be so lucky. That, I try to forget.

Date: Jul 24, 2004

Originally posted by: Googler
"I remember . . . David Huffman . . . as the VPAA . . ."
quote:
Originally posted by: Chanteuse
"You should be so lucky. That, I try to forget."

David Huffman was before my time, was he not a "good" VPAA?

Date: Jul 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Green Hornet
"David Huffman was before my time, was he not a "good" VPAA?"

That's in the eye of the beholder. It's just that I was not beholding.

Date: Jul 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Chanteuse
"That's in the eye of the beholder. It's just that I was not beholding."

I beheld the man and was underwhelmed with much that he did.

Date: Jul 24, 2004

Pood fits into Shelby's scheme because he (Pood) is a small man in a very large, egg-shaped body. He has radically mismanaged the COAL, claiming office space for himself and his alarmingly expanded administrative staff, and mishandling every important issue in the college. He got into an unnecessary and inappropriate shouting match with Professor Polk, he championed the idiotic "trolley" idea, he was involved with the Hattiesburg High deal which got good press but is a foolish waste of money and will never be executed. Pood maintains that he argued on behalf of Gary and Frank behind the scenes, but no evidence is available. When Shelby says jump, Pood says how high. If he is to be made Interim Provost, look out for more micromanagement coming from Shelby, through Pood. In particular, his handling of the evaluation/raise issue in the COAL is instructive, as he argues for more "objective" assessment and produces instead a wholly subjective set of rankings (if you haven't got your yet, you are in for an unpleasant surprise, I'll wager). This man is pure poison, an ill-educated, narrow, simple-minded, non-responsive little fellow well beyond his level of competence.

Date: Jul 24, 2004

Jay Grimes can be the provost, since he is being paid to be a provost. He is a graduate

of the cross-training provost program

. Working in the dome wouldn't be

, and certainly no

. The job might drive him to

or

excessively, and could make him

, but it is an

worth considering.

Date: Jul 24, 2004

boy you don't hold anything back!

Date: Jul 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: stinky cheese man
"boy you don't hold anything back!"

Well, I started to put instead of "dome," but I had a change of .

Date: Jul 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Googler
"Jay Grimes can be the provost, since he is being paid to be a provost. He is a graduate of the cross-training provost program . Working in the dome wouldn't be , and certainly no . The job might drive him to or excessively, and could make him , but it is an worth considering."

Bravisimo!

Date: Jul 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Passerby
"Pood fits into Shelby's scheme because he (Pood) is a small man in a very large, egg-shaped body. He has radically mismanaged the COAL, claiming office space for himself and his alarmingly expanded administrative staff, and mishandling every important issue in the college. He got into an unnecessary and inappropriate shouting match with Professor Polk, he championed the idiotic "trolley" idea, he was involved with the Hattiesburg High deal which got good press but is a foolish waste of money and will never be executed. Pood maintains that he argued on behalf of Gary and Frank behind the scenes, but no evidence is available. When Shelby says jump, Pood says how high. If he is to be made Interim Provost, look out for more micromanagement coming from Shelby, through Pood. In particular, his handling of the evaluation/raise issue in the COAL is instructive, as he argues for more "objective" assessment and produces instead a wholly subjective set of rankings (if you haven't got your yet, you are in for an unpleasant surprise, I'll wager). This man is pure poison, an ill-educated, narrow, simple-minded, non-responsive little fellow well beyond his level of competence."

See Wondering, I'm not alone in my feelings about Pood's abilities. Is there not an emoticon for "egg-shaped?"

Date: Jul 25, 2004

And now that CoAl's departmental evaluations have been "normed" to the Dean's grid . . .

Will other readers excuse me while I speak to my College?

Colleagues, we need to open up the evaluation-to-raise process from the inside so that we can find out how individuals and departments were assessed/reassessed. The Dean is not obligated to tell us what he did. But we can talk to each other.

How about a public voluntary listing of our College ratings, together with our Department ratings? How about a candid discussion among CoAl chairs about what they were told, how their original ratings were handled, etc.? I'm sure others will have some ideas about what we can do.

I think we can find out a great deal without violating the privacy of any faculty member who wishes to stay out of this. And I think there's going to be considerable anger/confusion/dismay . . . pick a noun . . . among CoAl members as the informal comparisons inevitably take place.

Let's keep those principles firmly in mind: the most accurate assessments of performance originate within the disciplines; the most efficient and effective administrative procedures are those developed in consultation with, and open to the scrutiny of, the faculty and staff.

We sure as heck don't want a provost who disagrees with these principles.

NO QUARTER.

Anne Wallace

Date: Jul 25, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Anne Wallace
"
Colleagues, we need to open up the evaluation-to-raise process from the inside so that we can find out how individuals and departments were assessed/reassessed. The Dean is not obligated to tell us what he did. But we can talk to each other.
"

I am not a colleague. I've never taught at USM, nor do I ever plan to do so. But I have spent a quarter century in higher ed, with the last decade in assessment & evaluation. So, feel free to regard or disregard what follows...

A personnel evaluation system that is not open & "transparent" actually runs counter to the entire notion of using the results to improve instruction. If personnel evaluation is to mean anything, really, then somebody has to open it up. The way I'm reading it, the faculty may be the only group that cares enough about quality instruction to take care of business. Somebody has to show some leadership -- it might as well be the faculty.

And now, the daily Dylan dose:

"Everything went from bad to worse, money never changed a thing,
Death kept followin', trackin' us down, at least I heard your bluebird sing.
Now somebody's got to show their hand, time is an enemy,
I know you're long gone,
I guess it must be up to me.

If I'd thought about it I never would've done it, I guess I would've let it slide,
If I'd lived my life by what others were thinkin', the heart inside me would've died.
I was just too stubborn to ever be governed by enforced insanity,
Someone had to reach for the risin' star,
I guess it was up to me.

Oh, the Union Central is pullin' out and the orchids are in bloom,
I've only got me one good shirt left and it smells of stale perfume.
In fourteen months I've only smiled once and I didn't do it consciously,
Somebody's got to find your trail,
I guess it must be up to me.

It was like a revelation when you betrayed me with your touch,
I'd just about convinced myself that nothin' had changed that much.
The old Rounder in the iron mask slipped me the master key,
Somebody had to unlock your heart,
He said it was up to me.

Well, I watched you slowly disappear down into the officers' club,
I would've followed you in the door but I didn't have a ticket stub.
So I waited all night 'til the break of day, hopin' one of us could get free,
When the dawn came over the river bridge,
I knew it was up to me.

Oh, the only decent thing I did when I worked as a postal clerk
Was to haul your picture down off the wall near the cage where I used to work.
Was I a fool or not to try to protect your identity?
You looked a little burned out, my friend,
I thought it might be up to me.

Well, I met somebody face to face and I had to remove my hat,
She's everything I need and love but I can't be swayed by that.
It frightens me, the awful truth of how sweet life can be,
But she ain't a-gonna make me move,
I guess it must be up to me.

We heard the Sermon on the Mount and I knew it was too complex,
It didn't amount to anything more than what the broken glass reflects.
When you bite off more than you can chew you pay the penalty,
Somebody's got to tell the tale,
I guess it must be up to me.

Well, Dupree came in pimpin' tonight to the Thunderbird Cafe,
Crystal wanted to talk to him, I had to look the other way.
Well, I just can't rest without you, love, I need your company,
But you ain't a-gonna cross the line,
I guess it must be up to me.

There's a note left in the bottle, you can give it to Estelle,
She's the one you been wond'rin' about, but there's really nothin' much to tell.
We both heard voices for a while, now the rest is history,
Somebody's got to cry some tears,
I guess it must be up to me.

So go on, boys, and play your hands, life is a pantomime,
The ringleaders from the county seat say you don't have all that much time.
And the girl with me behind the shades, she ain't my property,
One of us has got to hit the road,
I guess it must be up to me.

And if we never meet again, baby, remember me,
How my lone guitar played sweet for you that old-time melody.
And the harmonica around my neck, I blew it for you, free,
No one else could play that tune,
You know it was up to me."

Copyright © 1974 Ram's Horn Music

Columbia Records

Date: Jul 25, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: foot soldier
"

See Wondering, I'm not alone in my feelings about Pood's abilities. Is there not an emoticon for "egg-shaped?" "

Date: Jul 25, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Invictus
"
...
A personnel evaluation system that is not open & "transparent" actually runs counter to the entire notion of using the results to improve instruction. ... The way I'm reading it, the faculty may be the only group that cares enough about quality instruction to take care of business. ...

."

Invictus,
A correction to what is quoted above. Evaluation of INSTRUCTION is not really the issue, afaik. The issue is evaluation of research/scholarship ...errr no that not it. ...Err Oh yea! EVALUATION OF FUNDING!!!

How much $$$$ did you bring in last year. Oh you did? But that was two years ago. What did you do for me recently? This is the only important criterion that matters now.

Date: Jul 25, 2004

Thanks Icon do it!

Maybe Pood should consider the fate as Humpty D.--that's what you get for remaining on the fence.

Date: Jul 25, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: foot soldier
"Maybe Pood should consider the fate as Humpty D.-- that's what you get for remaining on the fence."

Pood? Remaining on the fence? That's what we call being a Mugwump - with your Mug on one side and your Wump on the other. There seems to be lots of those slimy little creatures running around campus these days.

Date: Jul 25, 2004

Anne--where were you "umpteen" years ago when the issues you raise were relevant then? why should we be any more concerned now than some 10-15 years ago? these are the same issues that could have been raised for the 20 years Harper was dean. i hope we're not hearing merely english's lament!

Date: Jul 26, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: stinky cheese man
"boy you don't hold anything back!"

But, someone does...question is was the holdback large enough?

Date: Jul 26, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Otherside
"

A correction to what is quoted above. Evaluation of INSTRUCTION is not really the issue, afaik. The issue is evaluation of research/scholarship ...errr no that not it. ...Err Oh yea! EVALUATION OF FUNDING!!!

But, I thought faculty were required to do research & scholarship to help them educate future researchers & scholars. Oh, never mind... this is USM we're talking about.

Some years ago, I had the privilege of attending a workshop on the comprehensive evaluation system at the University of Maryland. The presenter's name was Mike Middaugh, the institutional research director there at that time. The system was weighted so that departments that generally had little opportunity for external funding but that did a lot of teaching in the core curriculum (e.g., philosophy or English) were weighted more on instruction & scholarship, while departments that had more research funding opportunities (e.g., natural sciences) had different weightings. Departments that had few majors but that taught required courses for majors in other departments had a different weighting scheme. And one of the major points was that the weighting system had been developed by faculty representatives, reviewed across departments, etc. It didn't take an inordinate period of time to set up, either, considering how broad-based the input was. Middaugh had done many statistical analyses to compare the various weightings that were proposed. And the system was a "perpetual work in progress" rather than "perfection."

OK. If SFT had made revision of the evaluation system a priority when he became president, there probably would be a system in place now that folks could live with. Instead, over 2 years have been wasted.

How many "exemplary" evalaution programs at other institutions were studied before the USM scheme was rolled out?

Date: Jul 26, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Otherside
"
How much $$$$ did you bring in last year. Oh you did? But that was two years ago. What did you do for me recently? This is the only important criterion that matters now.
"

Translate the "heads" in the classes you teach into the amount of state funding received. There's gold in them-there classrooms. A veritable gold mine!

Oh & be sure to hop over to the Economic Development department to get the latest multipliers to use to estimate the "economic impact" of your students to the university & the community.

You may be surprised. Or maybe not. (I know I'm preachin' to the choir.)

Date: Jul 26, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: It'll be a COAL Day in H...
" But, someone does...question is was the holdback large enough?"

Malapropism, Invictus, Miss Information - The Nom d'Aplomb contest is over for this week. No need to go any further. You guys can shut down your computers and sleep until Sunday. Nobody, but nobody, will use a handle better than this one!

Date: Jul 26, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Nomemclator
"Malapropism, Invictus, Miss Information - The Nom d'Aplomb contest is over for this week. No need to go any further. You guys can shut down your computers and sleep until Sunday. Nobody, but nobody, will use a handle better than this one!"

Recommendations from Nom d'Aplomb laureates do carry a lot of weight. Let's hope that IBACDIH... has begun the week by setting a high standard of standardness upon which others may set their sights.

(IBACIH... has made my short list. Dunno about Mal or Miss I...)