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Anita Stamper

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There are already several threads addressing faculty/community perspectives and interactions as well as letters to the editor and their potential effect. I thought I would make a few suggestions for points faculty could make that would enable non-academics to relate more effectively to the tension between faculty and the SFt administration. I am in Hattiesburg frequently and my anecdotal perspective from talking with people through business and personal interactions is that there is a lot of interest in what happens at USM, and all of what I have encountered has been very negative toward Thames. The people who have broached the topic with me have folks such as insurance agents, realtors, wives of retired faculty, small business owners, and so forth.


As I said, my information is anecdotal, but I do think there is broad support for faculty and students at least in the overall business community. I also think we can make some inroads with neutral or negative community people by using analogies that will allow people who do not know much about university operations relate to our problems. So, I thought I would list a few idea I have been accumulating as I read the posts. (Sorry about the we, but I can't seem to shake that USM connection.)


1.  Most people in the community probably can't relate very much to the idea of shared governance. They don't know what it means, exactly, and it certainly is not as easily understood in a business environment. Drawing analogies between that concept and the democratic model of government would help bridge that gap, particularly if specific examples were used to help with the analogy.


2.  Some posters on the board have done an excellent job of drawing an anology between Thames' treatment of faculty and the way a bad professor treats students (no criteria for grades, failure for speaking out, playing favorites, etc.). That would find sympathy in the community, particularly if the topic is introduced from the prospective of the individuals reading the letter or members of their family.


3.  My perspective from participation on this board is that faculty are devastated about the destruction of the learning and teaching environment at USM. Often this isn't what comes through with the letters that are printed, yet it is the underlying cause of discontent. Letters that stress concern about being able to maintain accreditation, about poor teaching environments in huge classes and insufficient sections to meet student needs, about losing experienced faculty in program areas having no experienced faculty left, uneven and inequitable distribution of teaching and research resources to faculty resulting in a direct impact on students of those faculty. These are all issues that community people can understand quite easily, as they impact the quality of education the students (them/their family members) receive and may seriously impact their employability if accreditation is lost.


4.  Many letters, and even lists I have seen drawn up by Faculty Senate refer to specific actions taken by Thames that are very easily understood by faculty but may need more interpretation for the broader community. They don't know about reorganization, but what they can understand is the need for experts in the field to be in control of curriculum and programs in their fields. Would you want an engineer to be in charge of decisions about the music program or a musician to make decisions about nursing?


5.  Another point all too frequently omitted from letters is that the objection to Thames is not just about specific actions as it is about a culture of deceit, an absence of self-regulation, a disregard for quality or even mediocre intelligence among administrators, and a mockery of what education is about. Thames is not in charge of a private business here, and what he does with taxpayers' money is very much the business of taxpayers, including faculty.


6.  Respect and obedience are not automatic with getting a job, and questioning authority figures is what leads to exposure of enormous wrongdoing. The Catholic church is now dealing with years of authority figures' denials of such questioning; Enron and World Com are business examples, as is the recent insurance scandal involving Mississippi and other states. Are people good, smart, and right because they have certain jobs, as Klumb would implly? No. An no person should be above the law or above the rules that their colleagues live by. We want honesty so that we can have trust. What are our students learning about ethics when they observe their University leaders lying, getting caught, and getting away.


7.  Similar to the above, but there are relatively no checks and balances in our MS system of higher education.Once appointed, a president can pretty much do anything except major illegal stuff that the authorities can't manage to cover up. The faculty and staff and students who object to wrongdoing and bring it to the public's attention are serving as just about the only means of checking the power of a corrupt administration.


8.  It might be helpful to frame letters, at least at some point, of positive changes you wish to see occur at USM. This is an indirect way of expressing negative things about the current administration, but it really gets at what most of you are about.  You want a restoration of the environment that held such promise for the University. A discussion of some very specific, positive changes you are working toward might be the approach that the media and the commuity would find compelling.


Sorry for the length. I'm waiting on a roast to brown and trying to remember trains of thought, or maybe just even a few wayward cars, that I've had over the past few months reading the boards.



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Anita, what an excellent, excellent post.  Like you I hear a lot of pro-faculty talk in the community, particularly among small business people. 

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Seeker

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Someone finally gets it. This very well could be the best, most pro-active, informative post ever posted on this board.

Bravo Ms. Stamper. I can go to bed happy tonight having read that post. This will make my long drive over the next two days a lot more pleasent.

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Originally posted by: Seeker

"Someone finally gets it. This very well could be the best, most pro-active, informative post ever posted on this board. Bravo Ms. Stamper. I can go to bed happy tonight having read that post. This will make my long drive over the next two days a lot more pleasent."

Just wanted to point out that this is Dr. Stamper...a former faculty member (and director of a school that got usurped in the reorganization) at USM.

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The Rock

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Absolutely brilliant post - I finally can agree with Seeker on something. I will go to bed feeling pleasant about things as well.

Go Eagles.

No Quarter.

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Melissa Whiting

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Anita, a wonderful post.

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I just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of praise -- an excellent post!  Many thanks!

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Anita Stamper

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Originally posted by: Melissa Whiting

"Anita, a wonderful post."


Thanks, Melissa. I can empathize with you and with the those who are still at USM. I have been to the bottom there and made it back with self intact. Through the experience, I learned a lot about how to survive not only the externally administered punishment, but the tendency to do self-destructive things out of anger and frustration and disbelief. When Cynthia Easterling (now Moore) was made Department Chair in my area back in the 80s, I thought the world had gone mad. I would never have believed it could have happened, and then when it did I was devastated because I knew the quality of scholarship and integrity she was bringing to the position. I opposed her appointment vigorously throughout the administrative chain, through to Dr. Lucas. I openly questioned her ability to lead and her integrity, and expressed along with others a fear of her personal vindictiveness. This took place during a departmental faculty meeting with the VPAA at the time. What I, and the two other faculty members opposing her appointment, endured over the next five years was a nightmare. One of those faculty members, Linda Donnell, was subseuqently fired, and her case has been discussed on this board.


What I managed to do when I thought my sanity would not last another hour was to find other outlets. Somehow it worked. When I was not allowed to make copies of anything except a class syllabus and examinations, I learned to use the computer. I have enjoyed the benefit of that learning more than words can express. When I was not allowed to have even basic office supplies, I cultivated friendships in other departments and was provided with diskettes, rubber bands, staples, and similar supplies. When everything I did was devalued, I began an association with the curator at the State Historical Museum in Jackson that led to collaborative reserarch and exhibitions yielding a national Certificate of Commendation and then a national Award of Merit from the American Association of State and Local History.


Those are just some examples of ways I managed to deal with the adversity. I even quit smoking after 24 years of the habit as one very personal way of making a positive affirmation in the face of what I saw as total negativity in the workplace. When the tables eventually turned, and I was Director of the School of FCS, I learned that the best revenge is not needing to get any. That turned into a poem for D.C. Berry. (I took two of his poetry writing classes.) I remember one of his criticisms was that he found inadequate explanation for the amount of venon expressed in the poem. I'll bet he wouldn't need any more explanation these days, but people outside of the situation still would.


I guess the point of this late-night rambling, other than the extensive cooking I am doing with intervals of waiting, is that very few people would have been able to understand the anger and frustration we felt back then, and it was very, very difficult to justify without sounding like psychopathic personalities ourselves. I was too in-your-face back then with my objections. It was hard for me to frame what was happening in terms people who had not been there would understand. I have a little more distance now and can see the importance of struggling with that framework.


 



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Anita (if I may),


Obviously I don't know you, but you sound like a very wise and mature human being.  Thanks for your contributions to this board, and congrats on dealing so well with such a bad situation.



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Anita Stamper

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"Anita (if I may), Obviously I don't know you, but you sound like a very wise and mature human being.  Thanks for your contributions to this board, and congrats on dealing so well with such a bad situation."

You may, and, yeah, I'm old, real old. I didn't think I was dealing with it very well at the time, but looking back I can see that I learned a lot from the experience. It's not a school I would want to attend again, though.

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Robert Campbell

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Anita,

Great post!

Robert Campbell

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Austin Eagle

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Dr. Stamper,

I tip my hat to you for your eloquence, grace, and passion in expressing thoughts about USM that I share, but have been unable to articulate. Your words are both instructive and inspiring. I can add nothing, other than to thank you for sharing your wisdom.

Regards,
Austin Eagle

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Originally posted by: Anita Stamper

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What I managed to do when I thought my sanity would not last another hour was to find other outlets. Somehow it worked. . . When everything I did was devalued, I began an association with the curator at the State Historical Museum in Jackson that led to collaborative reserarch and exhibitions yielding a national Certificate of Commendation and then a national Award of Merit from the American Association of State and Local History.
Those are just some examples of ways I managed to deal with the adversity.
 
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Anita, thanks so much for being so forthcoming. I think many of us are going through parts of what you went through, so it is helpful to know that one can get through it. I think the part about having everything you do devalued is what was hardest for me. I used to go to my professional conferences, and people would treat me with respect. They valued my research, and they valued me as a colleague. Then I would go home, and it was almost as if I was invisible. I even got a very good job elsewhere about the same time I got the worst yearly evaluation of my entire time at USM! It is hard to keep sane under such circumstances. If I were younger and less seasoned, I might have quit academia all together. I pity people who are starting their professional careers in such an atmosphere. They will have a difficult time having any sense as to whether their work is going well. After a while you start wondering if there is any reality . . . .

Thanks again.

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Melissa Whiting

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Anita, thanks. Your words make my world into a place that makes a bit more sense.  I appreciate your response.

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