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Date: Jun 15, 2006

RE: tip for usmpride.com!

Date: Jun 15, 2006

Logic wrote:

Tired of being sick wrote:
Do we have to decide objectively every day that it is hot outside in the summer in Hattiesburg? I do not think so. To think it might be cool outside, especially in the afternoon and early evening, until at least September, is silly. Likewise, certain administrator's behavior is equally predictable, and equally as bad.

If you are looking for truth you do have to check the weather. Otherwise you are just talking about probabilities and one cold day in June you will be wrong. You can discuss probabilities, but you are very wrong if you think you can predict "certain administrators behavior" with similar probability as the weather in the summer. This "fuzzy" thinking of yours would allow you to associate any negative behavior to any person who has done something negative in the past.
This sort of thinking only works for people who write books about UFOs.

Perhaps for "many", but for at least one it is true. I am sorry you do not believe that certain people can have consistant behavior and that behavior is poor. Your lack of belief is irrelevant to the truth.

UFO books offer a nice supplement to USM pay.

Date: Jun 15, 2006

Tired of being sick wrote:

Logic wrote: Tired of being sick wrote: Do we have to decide objectively every day that it is hot outside in the summer in Hattiesburg? I do not think so. To think it might be cool outside, especially in the afternoon and early evening, until at least September, is silly. Likewise, certain administrator's behavior is equally predictable, and equally as bad. If you are looking for truth you do have to check the weather. Otherwise you are just talking about probabilities and one cold day in June you will be wrong. You can discuss probabilities, but you are very wrong if you think you can predict "certain administrators behavior" with similar probability as the weather in the summer. This "fuzzy" thinking of yours would allow you to associate any negative behavior to any person who has done something negative in the past. This sort of thinking only works for people who write books about UFOs.

Perhaps for "many", but for at least one it is true. I am sorry you do not believe that certain people can have consistant behavior and that behavior is poor. Your lack of belief is irrelevant to the truth. UFO books offer a nice supplement to USM pay.

Oh, I understand now. You are talking about belief, not knowledge or even belief based on some evidence. I was speaking of what we can say based on the evidence for "email monitoring by the dean of CoB". No evidence has been presented. All that was presented was that many think, "he is a bad guy". So? Don't trust a bad guy, but don't say he is a murder or monitors emails unless you have evidence.

Date: Jun 15, 2006

Uh oh, now Doty's a murderer too?

Date: Jun 15, 2006

CoBster in Residence wrote:

Are you aware that the CoB has it own email server, bought and paid for by CoB money? It was (and I believe still is) housed in JGH, not in the iTech headquarters. CoB faculty use addresses like XXX@cba.usm.edu. Most have their XXX@usm.edu mail routed to the CoB server by iTech.

Many of us were not aware of this. How interesting. Does iTech have any control over this at all?

Date: Jun 15, 2006

All ears wrote:

CoBster in Residence wrote: Are you aware that the CoB has it own email server, bought and paid for by CoB money? It was (and I believe still is) housed in JGH, not in the iTech headquarters. CoB faculty use addresses like XXX@cba.usm.edu. Most have their XXX@usm.edu mail routed to the CoB server by iTech. Many of us were not aware of this. How interesting. Does iTech have any control over this at all?

This is interesting and might even provide for some nice material for speculation about whether such a server is actually under the "control" of the Dean. My guess -- since ITech administers it, is that it is considered part of the network under the control of ITech, whose policy states:

"Under routine conditions, the content of electronic communications is not monitored and network connectivity will not be revoked without informing affected parties prior to the interruption of service. However, the university has the authority to:

monitor network traffic, including e-mail and Web browsing patterns.
Prior to monitoring, the University will seek the advice of a sub-committee appointed by the policy and compliance council. While engaged in monitoring, the Univeristy will operate within the constraints defined by that sub-committee.
impound university-owned computers for any reason
disconnect any computer from the network for the purpose of isolating it for analysis or to protect other resources from attacks originating on the computer ."

I'm not sure exactly what the status of the comittee is (my memory is that original setup as proposed is not quite the one we might have at present).

But it is a long way from the Dean being able to autorize his own monitoring.

Date: Jun 15, 2006

The CoB has had its own server for quite some time. iTech knows it's there, and certainly exercises some authority over it. But, it is housed in Greene Hall and is accessible to Doty and his people. It is believable that he could be monitoring e-mails over there. The fact that he has put restrictions on his faculty's e-mail options says he knows how to give a command that could lead to his monitoring of correspondence. My bet is that he is a monitor.

Date: Jun 15, 2006

jet set wrote:

The CoB has had its own server for quite some time. iTech knows it's there, and certainly exercises some authority over it. But, it is housed in Greene Hall and is accessible to Doty and his people. It is believable that he could be monitoring e-mails over there. The fact that he has put restrictions on his faculty's e-mail options says he knows how to give a command that could lead to his monitoring of correspondence. My bet is that he is a monitor.

i had forgotten that harold had revoked faculty privilege to easily email "all cob". of course he didn't do it but he knew who to give the order to. email monitoring can be very simple if the monitor is willing to do a little work. since harold's days are filled with reading this message board, i would bet that he has the time to kill.

Date: Jun 15, 2006

forgotten action wrote:

i had forgotten that harold had revoked faculty privilege to easily email "all cob".

Wasn't that in response to the "Porn King" who not once, but multiple times, forwarded porn to "all cob"? Such a shame that the entire college needed to suffer based on one person's irresponsibility.

Date: Jun 15, 2006

jet set wrote:

The CoB has had its own server for quite some time. iTech knows it's there, and certainly exercises some authority over it. But, it is housed in Greene Hall and is accessible to Doty and his people. It is believable that he could be monitoring e-mails over there. The fact that he has put restrictions on his faculty's e-mail options says he knows how to give a command that could lead to his monitoring of correspondence. My bet is that he is a monitor.

Who manages the server and the network?

Date: Jun 15, 2006

Forward all wrote:

forgotten action wrote:
i had forgotten that harold had revoked faculty privilege to easily email "all cob".
Wasn't that in response to the "Porn King" who not once, but multiple times, forwarded porn to "all cob"? Such a shame that the entire college needed to suffer based on one person's irresponsibility.

No, the "all COB" email active after that. "all COB" was removed after a junior faculty member publicly questioned the associate dean via "all COB." You know who you are.

Date: Jun 15, 2006

...was active...

Date: Jun 15, 2006

I don't know if Doty or Niroomand are monitoring e-mails or not, but Dr. Ginn and others were talking about it recently. That tells me some are not taking the idea lightly.

Date: Jun 16, 2006

Kicked up over spam.