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Date: Jun 13, 2006

RE: Latest in Whiting case

Date: Jun 13, 2006

SCM, don't think you can push me off to Page Two of this thread!!

I will not be ignored.

Date: Jun 13, 2006

Taxpayer wrote:

Smells Divine wrote: stinky cheese man wrote: $$$$$ for him and $ for her. That $ was a major $ and she gets 2/3 of the $ - he gets 1/3. Is that all it cost me? This must have cost more than that. Aren't there other lawyers feeding at this trough?

Don't forget about me.

I pay the bills!

I want answers.

Date: Jun 13, 2006

top of the thread. okay. let me remind you of the original context of my comment on the thread. it was with respect to the MW case. lots of talk on this board over the year(years?). this case is back in hattiesburg on this case. how it goes--we'll see. chase had other cases won (in the headlines) initially, but reversed on appeal (not in the headlines). the williams case may be one where he won big--but i think the amount is being appealed (but i could be wrong). if justice is served by the $$ you win, then so be it. it's not my definition of justice.

Date: Jun 13, 2006

Why is the doctorate from USM with a disreputable chair so important in the larger picture of life? What cases were reversed (name them please). Believe it or not Stinky, I think some people put more value on issues that don't always equate into dollars and a doctorate that was compromised. Sometimes Justice and Exposure of Corruption are enough.

Date: Jun 13, 2006

are you specifically talking about the chair (disreputable) of the department or are you talking about the president of usm? i'm confused. the original claim as i understand it was that the person in discussion wanted a doctorate to be awarded as a result of the lawsuit. well, that wasn't going to happen. plan b, go for the $$$. if you sue, you're essentially going for the $$$. you can sue, and not go for the $$$.

the one case that was reversed, and i don't remember the name, was a coast faculty member in political science that appealed a tenure decision. the trial happened when fleming first became president. he won in the courtroom, but lost on appeal.

Date: Jun 13, 2006

Smells Divine wrote:

Why is the doctorate from USM with a disreputable chair so important in the larger picture of life? What cases were reversed (name them please). Believe it or not Stinky, I think some people put more value on issues that don't always equate into dollars and a doctorate that was compromised. Sometimes Justice and Exposure of Corruption are enough.

Right on, brother!

Date: Jun 13, 2006

right arm brother!

Date: Jun 13, 2006

Alas, ma petite there is corruption which does not fear exposure. There is badness so bad, stupidity so stupid, that it does not understand what it does.
So much already has been exposed and nothing is done to the miscreants. They scoff at the light.

Back to my book.

M de G

Date: Jun 13, 2006

Who Cares wrote:

info wrote: http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/04/04-60956-CV0.wpd.pdf UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS For the Fifth Circuit No. 04-60956 FILED June 2, 2006 MELISSA WHITING, Plaintiff-Appellant, VERSUS THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI; SHELBY THAMAS, Dr.; DANA THAMES, Dr.; CARL MASTRAY, Dr.; Defendants-Appellees Appeal from the United States District Court For the Southern District of Mississippi ...

about this enough to be broadcasting it? Who has a pony in this race? Who has an axe to grind? Who wants this all to go away?

Someone must must care very much about the outcomes of this ongoing litigation.

Someone must have a pony in this race.

Someone must have an axe to grind.

Someone doesn't want this to go away.

Why not?

Date: Jun 13, 2006

stinky cheese man wrote:

right arm brother!

and Good Luck!

Date: Jun 13, 2006

info wrote:

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/04/04-60956-CV0.wpd.pdf UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS For the Fifth Circuit No. 04-60956 FILED June 2, 2006 MELISSA WHITING, Plaintiff-Appellant, VERSUS THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI; SHELBY THAMAS, Dr.; DANA THAMES, Dr.; CARL MASTRAY, Dr.; Defendants-Appellees Appeal from the United States District Court For the Southern District of Mississippi ...

why don't you just let it go away?

There must be more to this ruling than meets the eye.

Date: Jun 13, 2006

stinky cheese man wrote:

are you specifically talking about the chair (disreputable) of the department or are you talking about the president of usm? i'm confused. the original claim as i understand it was that the person in discussion wanted a doctorate to be awarded as a result of the lawsuit. well, that wasn't going to happen. plan b, go for the $$$. if you sue, you're essentially going for the $$$. .

I respectfully disagree. This is more than a cup of hot coffee at McDonalds.

Some people sue because sometimes silence only aids in the corruption. Surely that concept is not beyond you.

Date: Jun 13, 2006

We're in high clover.

These are billable hours.

Keep it coming!

Date: Jun 14, 2006

Now that a jury trial in the 'burg is going to happen, who will we see on the stand? Here's my A List of people who Chaze will call . . . . Carolyn Reeves Kazelskis, Mark Richmond, DT, Renee Falconer (possibly), Eric Luce, Gloria Applet-Slick, Don Cotten, John Rachal, Steve Yuen, Cicarelli, Margaret Mary Sulentic, some professor over in French, . . . there are others.

Isn't it strange that DT has clearly shown that she has it out for Luce?? Retaliation over the deposition perhaps??

The real "fun" is about to begin. I want at least a fourth row seat.

Date: Jun 14, 2006

Let me on the 5th row, especially when the more "adult" education people testify. I hear that the plaintiffs are sooooooooooo all ears.

Date: Jun 20, 2006

need help wrote:

Would others care to comment on this. For 3 years we've heard about how Whiting was screwed by Dana Thames and would've been given tenure by everyone else, yet this document shows that the CoEP Advisory Council went further than the CISE faculty/Thames by denying her tenure and promotion. Presumably there were psychologists and others on this council. Who were these people? Were they working in concert with Dana? I had bought into the idea MW was railroaded? Is that idea wrong?

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0504b.asp

Date: Jun 20, 2006

info wrote:

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/04/04-60956-CV0.wpd.pdf UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS For the Fifth Circuit No. 04-60956 FILED June 2, 2006 MELISSA WHITING, Plaintiff-Appellant, VERSUS THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI; SHELBY THAMAS, Dr.; DANA THAMES, Dr.; CARL MASTRAY, Dr.; Defendants-Appellees Appeal from the United States District Court For the Southern District of Mississippi ...

It's the hottest story since the Chicago Fire... And they're sitting on it.

Date: Jun 20, 2006

Grown-ups should have no need for Grand Inquisitors or professors of psychology.

Isn't it strange that the University Advisory Council, The Vice President of Research (Cotten) and the Provost (Griffin) were not impressed with their recommendation?

Date: Jun 20, 2006

need help wrote:

Would others care to comment on this. For 3 years we've heard about how Whiting was screwed by Dana Thames and would've been given tenure by everyone else, yet this document shows that the CoEP Advisory Council went further than the CISE faculty/Thames by denying her tenure and promotion. Presumably there were psychologists and others on this council. Who were these people? Were they working in concert with Dana? I had bought into the idea MW was railroaded? Is that idea wrong?

Fruitcake!!!!!

Date: Jun 20, 2006

need help wrote:

Would others care to comment on this. For 3 years we've heard about how Whiting was screwed by Dana Thames and would've been given tenure by everyone else, yet this document shows that the CoEP Advisory Council went further than the CISE faculty/Thames by denying her tenure and promotion. Presumably there were psychologists and others on this council. Who were these people? Were they working in concert with Dana? I had bought into the idea MW was railroaded? Is that idea wrong?

Better ask Oprah.

Date: Jun 20, 2006

A spineless move on some people's part. I'm telling ya girlfriends (and guyfriends), some people have no guts - maybe that's why they have no glory.

Date: Jun 20, 2006

need help wrote:

Would others care to comment on this. For 3 years we've heard about how Whiting was screwed by Dana Thames and would've been given tenure by everyone else, yet this document shows that the CoEP Advisory Council went further than the CISE faculty/Thames by denying her tenure and promotion. Presumably there were psychologists and others on this council. Who were these people? Were they working in concert with Dana? I had bought into the idea MW was railroaded? Is that idea wrong?

What do you think Max?

Date: Jun 20, 2006

(Big drumroll and a rat-a- tat-tat) Overzealous CAC that only gave SFT more undeserved power.

Date: Jun 20, 2006

What about this Paul?

Date: Jun 20, 2006

Friend or foe, you folks are on thin ice. Abuse of the board will not be tolerated.
You have been warned.

Date: Jun 20, 2006

Backing off. Thanks for the warning.