School strives to recover USM Coast campus still coping with losses
GULFPORT — They stuff themselves into tiny trailers in a parking lot or commute from Mobile, Hattiesburg and New Orleans.
They counsel students in shared offices that aren't much larger than bathrooms and conduct their research on the kitchen table.
The faculty at the University of Southern Mississippi's Gulf Coast campus is wearing down....
...Thirteen of the 78 faculty members at the main campus in Long Beach already have left for jobs elsewhere, said Douglas Bristol, a history professor and president of the Gulf Coast Faculty Counsel.
More are looking to leave, according to a survey taken this spring...
Let's hope that those who have always been Coast faculty, who were brought up to Hattiesburg to work after Katrina and given temporary living quarters (since they had destroyed homes on the Coast) will now be able to return to the Coast, be given their classes back, and allowed the opportunity to spend more time in the repair of their homes.
The Gulf Coast Campus has become a Country Club of sorts. Unable to attract faculty equal to those in Hattiesburg of late, the Coast has begun to use "personality" as a major criterion in selecting new faculty -- not whether or not the individual is a good teacher or researcher, but whether or not the person will be a good addition to the Country Club. Prior to Katrina, the status quo at Gulf Park was to remain silent, to put in the bare miniumum effort at the work, and to enjoy life as a resident of the "happening" part of the state.
Coast faculty knew what the Coast Campus was when they were hired. Tim Hudson instilled the idea that the Coast should be its own operation, separate from Hattiesburg, and many Coast faculty bought into it. The best thing that could happen is for the USM Coast operation to be shut down. That way, the dead wood that pervades that place can be jettisoned, while those who have actually done the work at Gulf Park (teaching, research, and service) could be picked up to work through the Universities Center concept.
The Coast Campus was a bad idea. Now is the time to rid ourselves of this albatross and the fleas that inhabit it.
Under the current and projected working and living conditions on the coast, the university is fortunate to have the faculty it does. Recruiting new faculty would be very difficult without a campus and normal office space.
Have you seen the CVs of Coast faculty hired between around 1999 and 2005? Give me a break! Some of these faculty are STILL writing and teaching at the highest levels of both quality and quantity. Get your facts straight. I can't speak for all colleges or all departments there, but for sure the above is true in my department and college.
As to Tim Hudson being the one who wanted the coast to be separate, again, give me a break! LONG before Tim or Shelby's presidency there was Jim Williams and Joe Hill, a campus VP and campus Dean who worked tirelessly to convince Hattiesburg to "allow" the Coast campus to do some unique things and grow into a true satellite based in large part on the model of Auburn Univ Montgomery -- where Jim had been president. They pushed years ago for separate SACS accreditation for the Coast and by some accounts had Horace Fleming nearly convinced...which may have been one of his many downfalls.
Not A Member of the Country Club wrote: The Gulf Coast Campus has become a Country Club of sorts. Unable to attract faculty equal to those in Hattiesburg of late, the Coast has begun to use "personality" as a major criterion in selecting new faculty -- not whether or not the individual is a good teacher or researcher, but whether or not the person will be a good addition to the Country Club. Prior to Katrina, the status quo at Gulf Park was to remain silent, to put in the bare miniumum effort at the work, and to enjoy life as a resident of the "happening" part of the state.
Coast faculty knew what the Coast Campus was when they were hired. Tim Hudson instilled the idea that the Coast should be its own operation, separate from Hattiesburg, and many Coast faculty bought into it. The best thing that could happen is for the USM Coast operation to be shut down. That way, the dead wood that pervades that place can be jettisoned, while those who have actually done the work at Gulf Park (teaching, research, and service) could be picked up to work through the Universities Center concept.
The Coast Campus was a bad idea. Now is the time to rid ourselves of this albatross and the fleas that inhabit it.
I object! wrote: Have you seen the CVs of Coast faculty hired between around 1999 and 2005? Give me a break! Some of these faculty are STILL writing and teaching at the highest levels of both quality and quantity. Get your facts straight. I can't speak for all colleges or all departments there, but for sure the above is true in my department and college.
As to Tim Hudson being the one who wanted the coast to be separate, again, give me a break! LONG before Tim or Shelby's presidency there was Jim Williams and Joe Hill, a campus VP and campus Dean who worked tirelessly to convince Hattiesburg to "allow" the Coast campus to do some unique things and grow into a true satellite based in large part on the model of Auburn Univ Montgomery -- where Jim had been president. They pushed years ago for separate SACS accreditation for the Coast and by some accounts had Horace Fleming nearly convinced...which may have been one of his many downfalls.
Strictly speaking, there are very few at USM (in its entirety) who publish at the highest levels of quality, and even fewer who are at the Coast campus. Perhaps if you water down the "highest levels of scholarship", then you may find a somewhat reasonable number.
I have seen the vitas of most of the faculty in my college and, with perhaps one exception, saying that Coast campus faculty vitas are equal to Hattiesburg campus faculty vitas would be a real stretch.
None of this really matters, since the Coast campus is soon to be a bus station with Grayhounds arriving from Oxford and Trailways arriving from Starkville. Good riddance to that albatross.
I think this "country club" label, also perpetuated by Southern Justice, came about from a COB search. A HUGE field of applicants was whittled down to three BY THE DEPARTMENT IN HATTIESBURG. All three finalists were very qualified. When asked for feedback, the COB Gulf Coast said they really liked this one applicant (who, by the way, had an Ivy League pedigree) because he was very easy to get along with. The other two, although equally qualified, were perceived to be less personable.
When this feedback was vocalized, the department in Hattiesburg made an amplified, exaggerated case out of it. I think the screams of "country club" originated there.
To the COB Gulf Coast, it has never been clear why their feedback was perceived to be so unprofessional by the department in H'burg. If a huge field has been narrowed to three strong, professionally qualified applicants, can't you pick one that'll also be great colleague? It isn't clear that the department in Hattiesburg behaves any differently. Just anecdotally, how else would one explain so many faculty with U of Alabama ties?
In all fairness, some of the appointments in the COB Gulf Coast have been handed down from Hattiesburg due to political/familial favoritism. H'burg appointed the person with long "family ties" to a position down there. The faculty down there strongly opposed this very "country club" appointment.
Also, just for the record, the COB Gulf Coast lost both of these battles. There are plenty of others I could mention, as well. To the extent that they have--in your opinion--tried to implement the "country club" mentality (which they haven't), you must admit they haven't been very successful at it.
Not A Member of the Country Club wrote:
The Gulf Coast Campus has become a Country Club of sorts. Unable to attract faculty equal to those in Hattiesburg of late, the Coast has begun to use "personality" as a major criterion in selecting new faculty -- not whether or not the individual is a good teacher or researcher, but whether or not the person will be a good addition to the Country Club. Prior to Katrina, the status quo at Gulf Park was to remain silent, to put in the bare miniumum effort at the work, and to enjoy life as a resident of the "happening" part of the state. Coast faculty knew what the Coast Campus was when they were hired. Tim Hudson instilled the idea that the Coast should be its own operation, separate from Hattiesburg, and many Coast faculty bought into it. The best thing that could happen is for the USM Coast operation to be shut down. That way, the dead wood that pervades that place can be jettisoned, while those who have actually done the work at Gulf Park (teaching, research, and service) could be picked up to work through the Universities Center concept. The Coast Campus was a bad idea. Now is the time to rid ourselves of this albatross and the fleas that inhabit it.
Has this person ever heard of the English and History departments? The publication level in just these two departments is (or has been) very impressive for a school at USM's level. Of course, the Dome has done its best to change that, starting with losing Gary's Donne grant.
You may not like the tone of what the poster says, but you have to admit that publishing at the highest levels is not widespread at USM. It can't be by definition.
I think this "country club" label, also perpetuated by Southern Justice, came about from a COB search. A HUGE field of applicants was whittled down to three BY THE DEPARTMENT IN HATTIESBURG. All three finalists were very qualified. When asked for feedback, the COB Gulf Coast said they really liked this one applicant (who, by the way, had an Ivy League pedigree) because he was very easy to get along with. The other two, although equally qualified, were perceived to be less personable. When this feedback was vocalized, the department in Hattiesburg made an amplified, exaggerated case out of it. I think the screams of "country club" originated there. To the COB Gulf Coast, it has never been clear why their feedback was perceived to be so unprofessional by the department in H'burg. If a huge field has been narrowed to three strong, professionally qualified applicants, can't you pick one that'll also be great colleague? It isn't clear that the department in Hattiesburg behaves any differently. Just anecdotally, how else would one explain so many faculty with U of Alabama ties? In all fairness, some of the appointments in the COB Gulf Coast have been handed down from Hattiesburg due to political/familial favoritism. H'burg appointed the person with long "family ties" to a position down there. The faculty down there strongly opposed this very "country club" appointment. Also, just for the record, the COB Gulf Coast lost both of these battles. There are plenty of others I could mention, as well. To the extent that they have--in your opinion--tried to implement the "country club" mentality (which they haven't), you must admit they haven't been very successful at it. Not A Member of the Country Club wrote: The Gulf Coast Campus has become a Country Club of sorts. Unable to attract faculty equal to those in Hattiesburg of late, the Coast has begun to use "personality" as a major criterion in selecting new faculty -- not whether or not the individual is a good teacher or researcher, but whether or not the person will be a good addition to the Country Club. Prior to Katrina, the status quo at Gulf Park was to remain silent, to put in the bare miniumum effort at the work, and to enjoy life as a resident of the "happening" part of the state. Coast faculty knew what the Coast Campus was when they were hired. Tim Hudson instilled the idea that the Coast should be its own operation, separate from Hattiesburg, and many Coast faculty bought into it. The best thing that could happen is for the USM Coast operation to be shut down. That way, the dead wood that pervades that place can be jettisoned, while those who have actually done the work at Gulf Park (teaching, research, and service) could be picked up to work through the Universities Center concept. The Coast Campus was a bad idea. Now is the time to rid ourselves of this albatross and the fleas that inhabit it.
Actually, the person who was eventually hired has the best vita among those in business on the Coast campus.
Art Vandalay wrote: I think this "country club" label, also perpetuated by Southern Justice, came about from a COB search. A HUGE field of applicants was whittled down to three BY THE DEPARTMENT IN HATTIESBURG. All three finalists were very qualified. When asked for feedback, the COB Gulf Coast said they really liked this one applicant (who, by the way, had an Ivy League pedigree) because he was very easy to get along with. The other two, although equally qualified, were perceived to be less personable. When this feedback was vocalized, the department in Hattiesburg made an amplified, exaggerated case out of it. I think the screams of "country club" originated there. To the COB Gulf Coast, it has never been clear why their feedback was perceived to be so unprofessional by the department in H'burg. If a huge field has been narrowed to three strong, professionally qualified applicants, can't you pick one that'll also be great colleague? It isn't clear that the department in Hattiesburg behaves any differently. Just anecdotally, how else would one explain so many faculty with U of Alabama ties? In all fairness, some of the appointments in the COB Gulf Coast have been handed down from Hattiesburg due to political/familial favoritism. H'burg appointed the person with long "family ties" to a position down there. The faculty down there strongly opposed this very "country club" appointment. Also, just for the record, the COB Gulf Coast lost both of these battles. There are plenty of others I could mention, as well. To the extent that they have--in your opinion--tried to implement the "country club" mentality (which they haven't), you must admit they haven't been very successful at it.
Let me clear up a couple of LIES perpetuated by Art Vandelay. The facts are taken from Economics faculty members, the internet, and my ability to count.
1. The Economics department "whittled" down a pool of candidates to three assistant professor candidates: one with experience at another university (no ties to USM), one with experience at his doctoral institution only (with ties to a USMGC Economics faculty member), and one with an Ivy-League pedigree and other "favorable" characteristics (ABD from Brown, African (not African-American, though), no ties to USM). Prior to the departmental vote, the Associate Dean announced that the candidate from Brown was the Dean's (Doty's) favorite. The department voted and selected the candidate with experience over the other two. A MARKETING professor from USMGC called the Economics chair to complain that the candidate selected possessed a personality that didn't fit in with the USMGC faculty as well as the candidate from Brown's did. [Note that the individual expressing an opinion has no basis to judge the candidates' relative merits in their chosen field]. The fact that another department began to voice strong opposition to the hire based on personality and not on merit began the "Country Club" line of thought with respect to USMGC, at least here in the CoB.
2. In the CoB, there are
5 graduates of Mississippi State 4 each from: LSU and Louisiana Tech 3 Each from: Auburn, Arkansas, Kentucky, Texas A&M, Florida State, and Virginia Tech 2 each from: Alabama, Ole Miss, and Tennessee
So what's your point about having too many from Alabama?
So what's your point about having too many from Alabama?
I said "ties," not degrees. Aren't those two in the same department? Plus, one of the recent additions was denied tenure there. I heard this new hire was a former prof of some faculty in that department.
Let me clear up a couple of LIES perpetuated by Art Vandelay. The facts are taken from Economics faculty members, the internet, and my ability to count. 1. The Economics department "whittled" down a pool of candidates to three assistant professor candidates: one with experience at another university (no ties to USM), one with experience at his doctoral institution only (with ties to a USMGC Economics faculty member), and one with an Ivy-League pedigree and other "favorable" characteristics (ABD from Brown, African (not African-American, though), no ties to USM). Prior to the departmental vote, the Associate Dean announced that the candidate from Brown was the Dean's (Doty's) favorite. The department voted and selected the candidate with experience over the other two. A MARKETING professor from USMGC called the Economics chair to complain that the candidate selected possessed a personality that didn't fit in with the USMGC faculty as well as the candidate from Brown's did. [Note that the individual expressing an opinion has no basis to judge the candidates' relative merits in their chosen field]. The fact that another department began to voice strong opposition to the hire based on personality and not on merit began the "Country Club" line of thought with respect to USMGC, at least here in the CoB. 2. In the CoB, there are 5 graduates of Mississippi State 4 each from: LSU and Louisiana Tech 3 Each from: Auburn, Arkansas, Kentucky, Texas A&M, Florida State, and Virginia Tech 2 each from: Alabama, Ole Miss, and Tennessee So what's your point about having too many from Alabama?
I thought the one from India was the dean's choice. I heard that, although he graduated from the same institution as the USMGC Econ faculty member, that was the extent of their "ties."
I said "ties," not degrees. Aren't those two in the same department? Plus, one of the recent additions was denied tenure there. I heard this new hire was a former prof of some faculty in that department.
The new hire is in economics, the others you are speaking of are on the finance side. Hence, they did not participate in the search, that was handled completely by Carter and Sawyer on the eco side. The new hire has a Washington University degree. Don't you like pedigree?
Add all the people with MSU ties to those with MSU degrees and MSU is still the big leader. Toss in the fact that MSU is Tier III and Alabama is Tier II, and it gets even worse. You might even begin to conclude that USM needs even more people with Alabama ties than it has.
Niroomand told the crowds that the Dean wanted the man from Brown, not the one from Memphis. Can you imagine Doty pushing for a PhD from Memphis? Not bloody likely.
Art Vandalay wrote: CoBster in Residence wrote: So what's your point about having too many from Alabama?
I said "ties," not degrees. Aren't those two in the same department? Plus, one of the recent additions was denied tenure there. I heard this new hire was a former prof of some faculty in that department.
There are 3 LSU folks in the same department (2 in Mkt, 1 in Mgt), and there are 2 accountants from LA Tech, 2 Marketing people from LA Tech, one guy in management used to be at Mississippi State...there's another MSU "tie" for you...and there's two more MSU Ph.D.s in Management, two Auburn guys in Management, two accountants from Kentucky, and two Virginia Tech people in Tourism Management. For every CoB faculty tie to the University of Alabama, I can provide at least one to Mississippi State University. But don't let little things like facts get in your way. Doty has some kind of hatred for the Alabama that doesn't have anything to do with anything except his petty little personal agenda. The bottom line is that there are fewer "ties" to Alabama in the CoB than there are to several other schools in the Southeast.
The new hire in economics never taught either of the Alabama people who are at USM, nor anybody from Alabama who has been on the faculty at USM in the past 5 years, so your info is wrong again.
Huh? wrote: I thought the one from India was the dean's choice. I heard that, although he graduated from the same institution as the USMGC Econ faculty member, that was the extent of their "ties."
You thought wrong. Doty wanted that Brown Ph.D. as a line item on his vita --
"2004 - Brought the second Ivy League Ph.D. holder to Southern Miss."
Didn't Doty tell the people at USF he hired the first ever African-American woman in the history of USM's business school? I believe he did. Is she American?
Strictly speaking, there are very few at USM (in its entirety) who publish at the highest levels of quality, and even fewer who are at the Coast campus. Perhaps if you water down the "highest levels of scholarship", then you may find a somewhat reasonable number.
I have seen the vitas of most of the faculty in my college and, with perhaps one exception, saying that Coast campus faculty vitas are equal to Hattiesburg campus faculty vitas would be a real stretch.
None of this really matters, since the Coast campus is soon to be a bus station with Grayhounds arriving from Oxford and Trailways arriving from Starkville. Good riddance to that albatross.
I've got a couple of points to make:
1. Researchers: Strictly speaking, there is no one in the entire state of Mississippi who has achieved a scholarly record of the "highest levels of quality." A quick search of the membership lists of the National Academy of Sciences and American Academy of Arts and Sciences shows no members in the state of Mississippi. Ditto for the American Academy of Arts and Letters (sorry Elizabeth Spencer doesn’t count—she lives in Chapel Hill, and Shelby Foote and Eurdora Welty are dead). Those organizations recognize the best, and we don’t have ‘em. Short of that, I work with some very sharp and ambitious scholars. Sadly, most of them are on the job market, but, still, we've got some very good people here at USM.
2. The Coast Faculty: I understand that a message board is a great outlet for one's frustrations, but anonymously slandering the Coast faculty is not only a disreputable act, its empirically wrong. I've chaired a coast faculty search (in 2000) and sat on many hiring and T&P committees. We've hired some promising scholars on the coast. I don't see any real difference between the two campuses in quality of hires in the CoAL department’s with which I’m familiar: we've got PhD's from Oxford (the real one in England), Vanderbilt, Maryland, Iowa, Texas, Illinois. Good people from good places.
3. Sweeping Condemnations: Mr. Not in a country club (or whatever). I could engage in my own similar slander. I could say how, at my graduate university (a top twenty institution), many of the folks in the Finance PhD program were those who couldn't handle the rigor of Econ, or how the one fellow I knew in the Management PhD program had his fellowship in Sociology yanked so he moved to the B-School, and how he’s quipped ever since that he’s making twice the money for half the effort. I could say these things, but I won't because they're not true. I just now made them up.
My point is that sweeping condemnations of whole classes of people are easy to make—you can even make them seem plausible, but in these cases, mine and yours, they are completely without merit.
For those who are interested in facts, here is a list of CoB faculty by University of Highest Degree Earned (Listed) on the USM CoB Website, June 13, 2006:
Auburn University Gregory, Brian (Management) Michael, Daniel (Management) Mixon, Frank (Economics)
Chinese University of Hong Kong Yang, Jie (Management)
City University of Hong Kong Lai, Fujun (Information Systems) Shi, Weihua (Economics/Finance)
Cornell University Klinedinst, Mark (Economics)
Florida Atlantic University Peyrefitte, Joseph (Management)
Florida International University Wilson, Ernie (Tourism)
Florida State University Daniel, Francis (Management) Green, Trellis (Economics) Rambo, Rob (Accounting)
Georgia State University Osmonbekov, Talai (Marketing)
Illinois Institute of Technology Chen, Kuo Lane (Information Systems)
Iowa State University Kozar, Joy (Fashion) Monchuk, Daniel (Economics)
Louisiana State University Babin, Barry (Marketing) Babin, Laurie (Marketing) Duhon, David L. (Management) Smith, Robert (Accounting)
Louisiana Tech University Anderson, Mary (Accounting) Jordan, Charles (Accounting) Lopez, Tara (Marketing) Smith, William C. (Marketing)
Michigan State University Niroomand, Farhang (Economics)
Mississippi State University Bushardt, Stephen C. (Management) Carr, Jon (Management) Fennell, Wanda (Management) LaFleur, Beth (Marketing) Lewis, Stan (Information Systems)
Pennsylvania State University Hwang, Johye (Tourism)
Purdue University Lo, Melody (Economics) Tseh-Hsieh, Chang (Information Systems)
Syracuse University Tang, Linghui (International Business)
Texas A&M University Carter, George (Economics) Henderson, Jim (Accounting) Nissan, Edward (Economics)
Texas Tech University Malik, Farooq (Economics)
Tulane University Black, Ty (Economics)
University of Alabama Clark, John (Finance) Salter, Sean (Finance)
University of Alabama at Birmingham Topping, Sharon (Management)
University of Arkansas Sawyer, W. Charles (Economics) Williams, Alvin (Marketing) Zantow, Ken (Management)
University of Georgia Lindley, Tom (Finance)
University of Houston Albin, Marvin (Accounting)
University of Kentucky Clark, Stan (Accounting) Depree, Marc (Accounting) Gunther, William (Economics)
University of Memphis Sharp, David (Economics)
University of Miami King, Ernest W. (Business Law)
University of Mississippi Davis, Donna (Information Systems) Henthorne, Tony (Marketing)
University of North Carolina at Greensboro Roberts, Judith (Fashion)
University of Oregon Wong, Sunny (Economics)
University of Pennsylvania Eisenberg, Larry (Finance) Hamwi, Alex (Insurance)
University of Southern Illinois Magruder, J. Scott (Information Systems)
University of Southern Mississippi Brown, John (Accounting) Cartee, Charles (Real Estate) Loyd, Dolly (Marketing) Munn, Patricia (Accounting) Sevier, Amy J. (Management) Smith, Thomas (Tourism)
University of Tennessee Burgess, Brigitte (Fashion) Pate, Gwen (Accounting)
University of Texas Doty, Harold (Management)
University of Texas at Arlington Sequeira, Jennifer (Management)
Virginia Polytechnic and State University Becker, Cheri (Tourism) Hallab, Zaher (Tourism) Hutchinson, Joe (Tourism) Price, Catherine (Tourism) Vest, Michael J. (Management)
Some see the USM model (at least the "traditional" one) as one where "personable" undergraduates are identified and "sent off" to do PhD work with the standing invitation to return upon completion as "agreeable" faculty members who can be placed into tenure tracks. To that end, your list does not interest me as much as one that provides information about the origin of the undergraduate degrees in the CoB.
Ask and ye shall receive. Pay close attention to the USM category.
Arizona State University Anderson, Mary (Accounting)
Auburn University Mixon, Frank (Economics)
Clark University Klinedinst, Mark (Economics)
Cornell University Wilson, Ernie (Tourism)
Emory University Osmonbekov, Talai (Marketing)
Florida State University Davis, Donna (Information Systems) Gregory, Brian (Management) Smith, William C. (Marketing)
Harding College Henderson, Jim (Accounting)
Kansas State University Kozar, Joy (Fashion)
Kent State University Gunther, William (Economics)
Kuming University of Science and Technology (China) Lai, Fujun (Information Systems) Yang, Jie (Management)
Louisiana State University Babin, Barry (Marketing) Smith, Robert (Accounting)
Louisiana Technological University Lewis, Stan (Information Systems)
Marquette University Sequeira, Jennifer (Management)
Michigan State University Babin, Laurie (Marketing)
Mississippi College Cartee, Charles (Real Estate) Munn, Patricia (Accounting)
Mississippi State University Albin, Marvin (Accounting) Carr, Jon (Management)
Mississippi University for Women Price, Catherine (Tourism) Roberts, Judith (Fashion)
Nan Kai University (China) Shi, Weihua (Economics/Finance)
National Chang-Chi University (China) Chen, Kuo Lane (Information Systems)
National Taiwan University (Taiwan) Hsieh, Chang-Tseh (Information Systems)
National Tsing-Hua University (Taiwan) Lo, Melody (Economics)
National University of Iran Niroomand, Farhang (Economics)
Ouachita Baptist University Henthorne, Tony (Marketing)
Peking University (China) Tang, Linghui (International Business)
Punjab University (India) Malik, Farooq (Economics)
Seoul National University Hwang, Johye (Tourism)
Southeastern Louisiana University Lopez, Tara (Marketing)
Southern Illinois University Zantow, Ken (Management)
Southwest Texas State University Doty, Harold (Management)
St. Mary's University Sawyer, W. Charles (Economics)
State University of New York -- Albany Depree, Marc (Accounting)
Texas Technological University Black, Ty (Economics)
United States Naval Academy Daniel, Francis (Management)
University of Alabama Clark, John (Finance) Salter, Sean (Finance)
University of Arizona Hallab, Zaher (Tourism)
University of Damascas Hamwi, Alex (Insurance)
University of Florida Peyrefitte, Joseph (Management)
University of Houston Hutchinson, Joe (Tourism)
University of Illinois Rambo, Rob (Accounting)
University of Kansas Nissan, Edward (Economics)
University of Memphis Sharp, David (Economics)
University of Michigan Eisenberg, Larry (Finance)
University of North Carolina at Asheville Lindley, Tom (Finance)
University of Oregon Wong, Sunny (Economics)
University of Sasketchewan (Canada) Monchuk, Daniel (Economics)
University of South Alabama Michael, Daniel (Management)
University of South Carolina Bushardt, Stephen C. (Management)
University of South Florida King, Ernest W. (Business Law)
University of Southern Mississippi Brown, John (Accounting) Burgess, Brigitte (Fashion) Carter, George (Economics) Clark, Stan (Accounting) Fennell, Wanda (Management) Green, Trellis (Economics) LaFleur, Beth (Marketing) Loyd, Dolly (Marketing) Magruder, J. Scott (Information Systems) Pate, Gwen (Accounting) Posey, Rod (Accounting) Sevier, Amy J. (Management) Smith, Thomas (Tourism) Williams, Alvin (Marketing)
University of Southwestern Louisiana Duhon, David L. (Management)
University of West Florida Jordan, Charles (Accounting)
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University Becker, Cheri (Tourism) Topping, Sharon (Management)
"As to Tim Hudson being the one who wanted the coast to be separate, again, give me a break! LONG before Tim or Shelby's presidency there was Jim Williams and Joe Hill, a campus VP and campus Dean who worked tirelessly to convince Hattiesburg to "allow" the Coast campus to do some unique things and grow into a true satellite based in large part on the model of Auburn Univ Montgomery -- where Jim had been president. They pushed years ago for separate SACS accreditation for the Coast and by some accounts had Horace Fleming nearly convinced...which may have been one of his many downfalls."
Seems like some still don't get it. OLD Miss and State were out to scuttle the USMGC campus. Fleming recognized that market and responded to the business people on the coast by pushing for more courses and programs here. That threatened Hattiesburg's business interests, like Bobby Chain and others. That's when they started to react.
stick to the plan wrote: CiR, Some see the USM model (at least the "traditional" one) as one where "personable" undergraduates are identified and "sent off" to do PhD work with the standing invitation to return upon completion as "agreeable" faculty members who can be placed into tenure tracks. To that end, your list does not interest me as much as one that provides information about the origin of the undergraduate degrees in the CoB.
stick,
I guess "helper" beat me to the list, but I did some further analysis (again based on publicly available information). Somebody upthread started talking about "ties" not "degrees," so I put together a list of "ties" by university:
Florida State University -- 7 ties Mississippi State University -- 7 ties University of Alabama -- 6 ties University of Arkansas -- 6 ties Louisiana State University -- 5 ties Louisiana Tech University -- 5 ties
CoBster in Residence wrote: stick to the plan wrote: CiR, Some see the USM model (at least the "traditional" one) as one where "personable" undergraduates are identified and "sent off" to do PhD work with the standing invitation to return upon completion as "agreeable" faculty members who can be placed into tenure tracks. To that end, your list does not interest me as much as one that provides information about the origin of the undergraduate degrees in the CoB.
stick,
I guess "helper" beat me to the list, but I did some further analysis (again based on publicly available information). Somebody upthread started talking about "ties" not "degrees," so I put together a list of "ties" by university:
Florida State University -- 7 ties Mississippi State University -- 7 ties University of Alabama -- 6 ties University of Arkansas -- 6 ties Louisiana State University -- 5 ties Louisiana Tech University -- 5 ties
no other school has more than 5 ties, except:
University of Southern Mississippi -- 18 ties
CiR
If true, then 24% (18 of the 74 previously listed) of the CoB has an undergrad/masters (or both) tie to USM? That's incredible! What quality university hires its own graduates to the tune of one-fourth?