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Calendar Man

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Tomorrow will complete 4 years of the Thames disaster.  According to the "Thames Timer" thread at the top of the board we have only 365 days to go.   But I'm more interested in the fact that the Glamser/Stringer "agreement" will be ending very soon.  Recall that they couldn't  speak out against the administration for the 2 years the agreement is in effect.  I wonder what this coming year will hold for SFT considering this agreement ending, a search for a new president starting and several law suits scheduled to reach court.   


                         



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From what I know of Professors Stringer and Glamser, I would be surprised if either of them initiated any commentary. However, it's good to know they will soon be free to speak and free to defend themselves if need be.

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qwerty

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I think its best to leave Frank and Gary alone. They've moved on, like so many of us. They were both put through the meat grinder, and I'm sure they don't want to relive those days. I don't think its right to expect them to mount some public campaign on USM issues.

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Maytwennie O'Seben

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Maytwennie O'Seben, I knew my name was significant. I'll believe it when it happens.

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Jean Moulin

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Glamser and Stringer should be invited to set the record straight publicly. If, having "moved on," they wish not to speak out, so be it; indeed there should be no expectations imposed on them. On the other hand, either or both might be only too happy to speak once the muzzle is removed.

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No psychologist

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None of us, including Frank and Gary, have moved on. Everyone who has lived through this nightmare may "go on," but we will carry it with us forever. I know that is true for those two guys and that a day doesn't go by that they don't think/worry about USM. It is true for the majority of those who have taken jobs elsewhere. And it is just as true for the folks behind the scenes.

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off the plantation

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Truth and Reconciliation time at USM. There wil be no "moving on" without it.

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Tomorrow, tomorrow, and tomorrow

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off the plantation wrote:

Truth and Reconciliation time at USM. There wil be no "moving on" without it.



What do you see in this process? What specifically is necessary?

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off the plantation

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A full, impartial investigation into the attempted firings of Stringer and Glamser would be a good place to start. A lot of folks here have a feeling that Frank and Gary settled only because they were too tired and beaten up to pursue genuine redress, not because they did anything that could legitimately be construed to warrant termination. And not because the Thames administration wasn't guilty as sin.


Given the cozy relations between the current administration and the political powers that be, though, it's difficult to say who such an investigation would be commissioned by. FS might could agitate for an something in "independent prosecutor" mode. There may be some USM alumni who have not fallen under the Thames spell, some of them may be in the legislature, or other influential positions in the polity and private life (?).



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Tomorrow, tomorrow, and tomorrow

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I agree with you completely, Off the Plantation.

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free money

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At least we wont be paying them anymore for not working here!

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free money wrote:

At least we wont be paying them anymore for not working here!



What an ugly thing to say.

I know someone who inherited money when her child died. She has a little card on her refrigerator that says "Sometimes money costs too much."

I have a feeling Dr. Stringer and Dr. Glamser would share that sentiment.

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Broom in the Closet

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What is needed for reconciliation is some truth from the IHL Board or the commissioner. Someone in Jackson is going to have to find a way to subtly admit that their presidential selection process was flawed and that they made a monumental mistake. The IHL  should also apologize to the faculty and staff for the grief the Board put them through by sticking with their boy in spite of contrary damning evidence from year one. Part of the process of reconciliation would be to place an adequate number of respected faculty on the search committee for the next president and listen to them. Failure to take these steps will perpetuate the bad blood, the bad publicity, and the continuing departures of good faculty.


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Yet another retiree

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LVN wrote:


free money wrote:
At least we wont be paying them anymore for not working here!


What an ugly thing to say.

I know someone who inherited money when her child died. She has a little card on her refrigerator that says "Sometimes money costs too much."

I have a feeling Dr. Stringer and Dr. Glamser would share that sentiment.





Frank and Gary went through hell. Was it worth it for them? I think they would both say yes. They publically exposed this regime for what it was. And Shelby did pay a price. The only ones who haven't are those cowardly folks on the IHL board.

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stephen judd

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Broom in the Closet wrote:


What is needed for reconciliation is some truth from the IHL Board or the commissioner. Someone in Jackson is going to have to find a way to subtly admit that their presidential selection process was flawed and that they made a monumental mistake. The IHL  should also apologize to the faculty and staff for the grief the Board put them through by sticking with their boy in spite of contrary damning evidence from year one. Part of the process of reconciliation would be to place an adequate number of respected faculty on the search committee for the next president and listen to them. Failure to take these steps will perpetuate the bad blood, the bad publicity, and the continuing departures of good faculty.

I think that admission has been "subtly" made. The shift to a commissioner to whom the Presidents directly answer; the fact that they get performance reviews each year from the commissioner; the admission that the board is a "lay" board and needs to do be less involved in the micromanaging of the universities and focus more on the larger picture (i.e policy); the stepping down of Roy Klum (my guess is that he found the changed climate unwelcome once he was out of the Board Presidency) are all subtle signs, I think.

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LeftASAP

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stephen judd wrote:


I think that admission has been "subtly" made. The shift to a commissioner to whom the Presidents directly answer; the fact that they get performance reviews each year from the commissioner; the admission that the board is a "lay" board and needs to do be less involved in the micromanaging of the universities and focus more on the larger picture (i.e policy); the stepping down of Roy Klum (my guess is that he found the changed climate unwelcome once he was out of the Board Presidency) are all subtle signs, I think.

Stephen has it correct.  The departure of Klump and the reorganization of the IHL Board operations was an admission that having lay people "pick the CEO and giving the institution to the CEO to run it like a business" was a huge mistake, and not they way academic institutions operate. 

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