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Date: Jun 15, 2004

WDAM story on Stringer

Date: Jun 15, 2004

Shelby's quote makes me want to VOMIT!

Date: Jun 15, 2004

It was exceedingly ungracious. Can one imagine AL making such an ugly remark? And USM has not heavily funded SFT's research?

Date: Jun 15, 2004

Actually, it appears that SFT was blindsided, which he can't have enjoyed. Rumor control on TAMU and GS's part was very well handled. Do you'all think SFT honestly did not realize a better school would scoop up GS, as we predicted would happen? Did he think because HE fired GS that no one else would want him? He seems to be that ill-informed about the humanities.

Date: Jun 16, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: LVN
"Actually, it appears that SFT was blindsided, which he can't have enjoyed. Rumor control on TAMU and GS's part was very well handled. Do you'all think SFT honestly did not realize a better school would scoop up GS, as we predicted would happen? Did he think because HE fired GS that no one else would want him? He seems to be that ill-informed about the humanities."

LVN,

One thing that probably really galls him is the realization that right now there is probably not a single college in the country that would hire HIM as president (or any kind of administrator) and that he will be lucky indeed merely to hang on to his current position. If there is any silver lining to the fact that he has done so much damage to good people like Gary Stringer and Frank Glamser, it is that he has done even more damage to himself -- particularly to his "place in history." He must realize that all the folks who are presently kow-towing to him (because of his present position) will drop him immediately once he leaves the Dome. In a few years I suspect that even his biggest present supporters will be embarrassed to have been associated with him.

Date: Jun 16, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Magnolia
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"As you may well remember, any research that comes out of that will have the USM as a byline because it was started here and it was funded by this institution, rather heavily, I might add," Thames says. " "

Somehow I think USM will be buried in 3 pages of acknowledgements in small type. The blurb on Gary will say he is a prof. at Texas A & M. Once again, Shelby doesn't understand the humanities . . . .
I doubt you can take your lab with you, but you can take John Donne.

Date: Jun 16, 2004

For whom the bell tolls, it tolls for SFT. (We can hope)

Date: Jun 16, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: USM Sympathizer
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LVN,
One thing that probably really galls him is the realization that right now there is probably not a single college in the country that would hire HIM as president (or any kind of administrator) and that he will be lucky indeed merely to hang on to his current position.HR>

Not just RIGHT NOW, USM Sympathizer, but EVER. Check this out:

University of Miami, University of Arizona, Yale University, University of Maryland, University of Virginia, Kansas State University, Carleton University, University of Oklahoma, University of Alabama, University of Illinois—Champaign-Urbana, Northern Illinois University, Hope College, Seattle University, Oakland University, McMaster University (Ontario, Canada),University of Regina (Saskatchewan, Canada), University of Mary Hardin-Baylor, California State University—Sacramento, Saint Xavier College, Simmons College, Smith College, Whitman College, University of Louisiana—Lafayette, Clemson University, Michigan State University, Florida Southern College, Texas State University—San Marcos, University of Connecticut—Storrs, Rider University, Tulane University,The Ohio State University, Georgia Southern University, State University of New York—Plattsburgh, Indiana University, Williams College, North Carolina State University, New Mexico State University, Southeastern Louisiana State University, University of Central Arkansas, University of Texas—Austin, Iowa State University, Texas Christian University, Oklahoma State University, University of Michigan, Case Western Reserve, Ohio University, Hamilton College, SUNY—Binghamton, DePaul University, University of Kentucky, University of Central Florida

This list was compiled by referencing the online petition at fireshelby.com. It is a sample of the universities and colleges across this nation, and indeed the world, whose faculty have publicly stated their disapproval of Shelby Thames.

Date: Jun 16, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Magnolia
"There was a story on WDAM at 6 about Gary moving to TAMU. Quoting Shelby (full story on the WDAM web site): "As you may well remember, any research that comes out of that will have the USM as a byline because it was started here and it was funded by this institution, rather heavily, I might add," Thames says. " So I'm proud for him. I hope he's happy." It kinda sounded like ole SFT was taking credit for Gary's research. "

All I can say is, "HA!" to SFT. That acknowledgement to USM *will* be buried on page 103 or some such well-deserving spot.

So, you hope Gary's happy, Shelboo? After all you put him and his family through? What a load of....non-stinky beige paint.

"Living well is the best revenge."
--George Herbert

Date: Jun 16, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: this little pig
" Not just RIGHT NOW, USM Sympathizer, but EVER. Check this out: University of Miami, University of Arizona, Yale University, University of Maryland, University of Virginia, Kansas State University, Carleton University, University of Oklahoma, University of Alabama, University of Illinois—Champaign-Urbana, Northern Illinois University, Hope College, Seattle University, Oakland University, McMaster University (Ontario, Canada),University of Regina (Saskatchewan, Canada), University of Mary Hardin-Baylor, California State University—Sacramento, Saint Xavier College, Simmons College, Smith College, Whitman College, University of Louisiana—Lafayette, Clemson University, Michigan State University, Florida Southern College, Texas State University—San Marcos, University of Connecticut—Storrs, Rider University, Tulane University,The Ohio State University, Georgia Southern University, State University of New York—Plattsburgh, Indiana University, Williams College, North Carolina State University, New Mexico State University, Southeastern Louisiana State University, University of Central Arkansas, University of Texas—Austin, Iowa State University, Texas Christian University, Oklahoma State University, University of Michigan, Case Western Reserve, Ohio University, Hamilton College, SUNY—Binghamton, DePaul University, University of Kentucky, University of Central Florida This list was compiled by referencing the online petition at fireshelby.com. It is a sample of the universities and colleges across this nation, and indeed the world, whose faculty have publicly stated their disapproval of Shelby Thames. "

Wow! Thanks for this list, This Little Pig! This would make an excellent basis for a letter to the HA; if you cannot write it, I will be glad to; just let me know. Such a letter would also help call local attention to the existence of the petition. Of course, the list of colleges where people KNOW about the situation at USM but may not know about the petition is even longer. Every single one of the people at my college who read about the mess at USM in The Chronicle and who have mentioned the situation to me has been appalled by SFT (and thankful that we have much better leadership here). Again, thanks for the list.

Date: Jun 16, 2004

USM Sympathizer,
Seems you know who this little pig is! No, I can't send it, but anyone who'd like to can be my guest!!!! Thanks!

Date: Jun 16, 2004

Here's the letter I just sent off; thanks again, TLP!

University of Miami, University of Arizona, Yale University, University of Maryland, University of Virginia, Kansas State University, Carleton University, University of Oklahoma, University of Alabama, University of Illinois—Champaign-Urbana, Northern Illinois University, Hope College, Seattle University, Oakland University, McMaster University (Ontario, Canada),University of Regina (Saskatchewan, Canada), University of Mary Hardin-Baylor, California State University—Sacramento, Saint Xavier College, Simmons College, Smith College, Whitman College, University of Louisiana—Lafayette, Clemson University, Michigan State University, Florida Southern College, Texas State University—San Marcos, University of Connecticut—Storrs, Rider University, Tulane University,The Ohio State University, Georgia Southern University, State University of New York—Plattsburgh, Indiana University, Williams College, North Carolina State University, New Mexico State University, Southeastern Louisiana State University, University of Central Arkansas, University of Texas—Austin, Iowa State University, Texas Christian University, Oklahoma State University, University of Michigan, Case Western Reserve, Ohio University, Hamilton College, SUNY—Binghamton, DePaul University, University of Kentucky, University of Central Florida . . . these are the names of just a few of the colleges whose faculty, staff, students, or alumni have signed the on-line petition objecting to the recent conduct of USM President Shelby Thames. The list of colleges where people know of Thames' actions and are repulsed by them is much, much longer.

Thus, while Gary Stringer, the professor whom Thames unfairly fired from USM, was easily able to get a much more prestigious job at Texas A&M, the chances of Shelby Thames ever being able to be an administrator at another American college are close to zero. He has not only severely damaged the reputation of USM but has also just about destroyed whatever reputation he himself once possessed. If he truly cared about USM's future, he would resign immediately.