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Barbour won't pardon Kennard
By Rachel Leifer


http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060415/NEWS01/604150304/1002


"I haven't pardoned anybody since I've been governor, and I don't have any intention of pardoning anybody," Barbour told WDAM-TV. "


"If he were living, I think he would have already been pardoned," Barbour said. "But as far as I know, there's never been any dead person pardoned in our state."



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accuracy please

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You omitted the part where Gov Barbour also stated that he didn't think Kennard was guilty of anything.

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CoB Removed

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Again, not surprising. The agenda of the "USM Forum--No Quarter Message Board" is to oust Shelby Thames and spread the gospel that all conservatives are racist, that capitalists are evil, and that debate is arguing a point in which you believe.

Most of the top "debaters" on this board would die a swift death if forced into a true debate because they can only argue points they believe in.

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truth4usm/AH

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CoB Removed wrote:

Again, not surprising. The agenda of the "USM Forum--No Quarter Message Board" is to oust Shelby Thames and spread the gospel that all conservatives are racist, that capitalists are evil, and that debate is arguing a point in which you believe.

Most of the top "debaters" on this board would die a swift death if forced into a true debate because they can only argue points they believe in.




You're really full of it, aren't you, COBer? If you knew your history a bit better, you would know some of the professors that we have championed on this board and others are politically conservative. This has nothing to do with personal political affiliations and everything to do with the larger picture.

But you wouldn't know anything about that being one of the insane COB-ers, now would you?

PS--This board has nothing to do with debate rules and everything to do with promoting academic freedom and shared governance.

NO QUARTER!

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CoB Removed

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truth4usm/AH wrote:


CoB Removed wrote:
Again, not surprising. The agenda of the "USM Forum--No Quarter Message Board" is to oust Shelby Thames and spread the gospel that all conservatives are racist, that capitalists are evil, and that debate is arguing a point in which you believe.

Most of the top "debaters" on this board would die a swift death if forced into a true debate because they can only argue points they believe in.


You're really full of it, aren't you, COBer? If you knew your history a bit better, you would know some of the professors that we have championed on this board and others are politically conservative. This has nothing to do with personal political affiliations and everything to do with the larger picture.

But you wouldn't know anything about that being one of the insane COB-ers, now would you?

PS--This board has nothing to do with debate rules and everything to do with promoting academic freedom and shared governance.

NO QUARTER!




I know plenty of USM history -- probably more than you do -- and I also know that you're about to start spouting about Glamser being conservative, LVN being conservative, etc. I think you're trying to pick a fight, and I'm not going to allow you to drag me into that. Nice try, though.

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truth4usm/AH

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I know plenty of USM history -- probably more than you do -- and I also know that you're about to start spouting about Glamser being conservative, LVN being conservative, etc. I think you're trying to pick a fight, and I'm not going to allow you to drag me into that. Nice try, though.



COB-er, you're the one who started this. And I'm ending this non-issue now.

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accuracy please wrote:


You omitted the part where Gov Barbour also stated that he didn't think Kennard was guilty of anything.

You are correct, sorry.  I will give an explanation for CoB Removed's edification.  I you check the link you will see an ad between the two statements I quote.  The way I copy and paste when there is an ad in the way is I copy and paste the first part only then go back and copy the part below or next to the ad.  I was in a hurry and accidentally didn't copy the whole first part.  This was not done intentionally. However, if CoB Removed thinks this mistake indicates my political position, age or my dress size, they are free to speculate all they want. 

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truth4usm/AH

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Yep, it's funny that the person who "won't pick a fight" has now picked several on this board!

Typical.

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CoB Removed

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accuracy please wrote:
You omitted the part where Gov Barbour also stated that he didn't think Kennard was guilty of anything.
You are correct, sorry.  I will give an explanation for CoB Removed's edification.  I you check the link you will see an ad between the two statements I quote.  The way I copy and paste when there is an ad in the way is I copy and paste the first part only then go back and copy the part below or next to the ad.  I was in a hurry and accidentally didn't copy the whole first part.  This was not done intentionally. However, if CoB Removed thinks this mistake indicates my political position, age or my dress size, they are free to speculate all they want. 




I did not post as "accuracy please." That is someone else. I am sure that the IP logs will show that to be true.

What I don't like is the constant liberal slant on every thread lately. If you're going to "report," then you need to do a better job of representing the article through your "soundbites." Otherwise, just post the link and give the basic topic and let us read for ourselves. While not intentional, I am quite sure that if I posted a news article regarding Bush and unintentionally focused on the positives and not the negatives, I would immediately be labeled a propagandist.



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truth4usm/AH

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COBer, if you don't like the way this board is run, well...you know the rest.

PS--Your sly little reference to the "IP logs" has been noted. I believe you've been on this board before under another name.






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CoB Removed

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truth4usm/AH wrote:

Yep, it's funny that the person who "won't pick a fight" has now picked several on this board!

Typical.




You're the one who made this a personal issue by questioning my motives on another thread. If you don't like my posts, then use facts to knock them down. Just make sure your facts are presented in a truthful and representative manner. Since I do not believe you can bring forth evidence to reject my null hypothesis, it stands.

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truth4usm/AH

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Since I do not believe you can bring forth evidence to reject my null hypothesis, it stands.

I have no idea what you are even talking about.



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CoB Removed

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truth4usm/AH wrote:


I have no idea what you are even talking about.





Exactly. You are not concerned with what I am saying, just the fact that it is being said by someone formerly asociated with the CoB. You see me as some type of troll because I have "CoB" in my moniker. Nothing more and nothing less.

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CoB Removed wrote:


 I did not post as "accuracy please." That is someone else. I am sure that the IP logs will show that to be true. What I don't like is the constant liberal slant on every thread lately. If you're going to "report," then you need to do a better job of representing the article through your "soundbites." Otherwise, just post the link and give the basic topic and let us read for ourselves. While not intentional, I am quite sure that if I posted a news article regarding Bush and unintentionally focused on the positives and not the negatives, I would immediately be labeled a propagandist.


I responded to "Accuracy Please" because they were the first to point out my error, "CoB Removed".  However, your post had so much speculation that I thought I would save time and explain my how my error occurred in that post.  I and "Info" do our best to keep the board informed.  I assume people will read the linked article and any quotes provided are just icing on the cake.   


I did not think you were using a different name and have no objection if you did.  I do find it strange that no one so far is discussing the H.A. article, but rather the "reporting" and the "speculations".  Must be a slow Saturday.



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LVN

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Instead of a pardon, as he objects to issuing one, perhaps the Governor could issue some sort of official proclamation about Mr. Kennard's innocence, and express regret for what occurred.

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LVN wrote:


Instead of a pardon, as he objects to issuing one, perhaps the Governor could issue some sort of official proclamation about Mr. Kennard's innocence, and express regret for what occurred.

LVN!! You're back!!! I've missed you. I think the Governor is an idot - his political affiliation has nothing to do with it.

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truth4usm/AH

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CoB Removed wrote:

Exactly. You are not concerned with what I am saying, just the fact that it is being said by someone formerly asociated with the CoB. You see me as some type of troll because I have "CoB" in my moniker. Nothing more and nothing less.



Let me S-P-E-L-L this out for you. You make no sense--THAT'S why I have no idea what you are saying! It has nothing to do with your COB status. But, if you want to be defensive about it, carry on.

If I think you are troll, it's more because you referred to "IP logs" (a favorite troll fear-mongering tactic around these parts). I never called you a troll. But you identified yourself quite nicely.

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LVN

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Thank you Emma. Actually (true confession time) I was back before, and have felt very bad about breaking my promise to myself. That was me quoting findlaw to that idot about people changing back to their maiden names. I just let my temper get the best of me.

Even though I felt bad about it, it was hilarious to be mistaken for both Angie and Hanbury.

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truth4usm/AH wrote:



Let me S-P-E-L-L this out for you. You make no sense--THAT'S why I have no idea what you are saying! It has nothing to do with your COB status. But, if you want to be defensive about it, carry on.

If I think you are troll, it's more because you referred to "IP logs" (a favorite troll fear-mongering tactic around these parts). I never called you a troll. But you identified yourself quite nicely.




Listen, you condescending twit. I have clearly posted my opinions on this and other threads. My opinions are there to be read. If you choose not to read them, then that is fine. Just don't come back and tell me that my posts don't make sense when you obviously either do not want to take the time or do not have the ability to comprehend my posts.

You lecture me on the history of USM -- a history I know all too well -- while you pretend not to know what I'm talking about.

As for IP logs, LVN posted that IP addresses were being monitored. To monitor IP addresses, there must be a log. You have a history of labeling those with whom you disagree as "trolls." I'll give you a label: idiot.

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Republican for justice

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LVN wrote:


Instead of a pardon, as he objects to issuing one, perhaps the Governor could issue some sort of official proclamation about Mr. Kennard's innocence, and express regret for what occurred.

Didn't he sign a proclamation passed by the legislature to that effect?

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truth4usm/AH

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Listen, you condescending twit. I have clearly posted my opinions on this and other threads. My opinions are there to be read. If you choose not to read them, then that is fine. Just don't come back and tell me that my posts don't make sense when you obviously either do not want to take the time or do not have the ability to comprehend my posts.

You lecture me on the history of USM -- a history I know all too well -- while you pretend not to know what I'm talking about.

As for IP logs, LVN posted that IP addresses were being monitored. To monitor IP addresses, there must be a log. You have a history of labeling those with whom you disagree as "trolls." I'll give you a label: idiot.



Ah, with the name-calling...great debate tactic (not).

1. I don't have time to read all of the drivel that you post. If you have a direct question to ask, then by all means do so. To get your panties in a wad because someone hasn't read your entire oeuvre...well, really. It is to laugh. I will acknowledge that your posts make sense when they start making sense.

2. I didn't "give you a lecture on USM." What I did was to give you information on the history of this board (and others). Defensiveness will get you nowhere fast.

3. LVN didn't say that IP addresses were being monitored. She said that Activeboard (the software that runs this board) automatically logs in your IP address when you log in. If you can't see the difference between that and "monitoring," I can't help you there.

Why don't you take your defensive attitude back to the COB where it will be appreciated? I don't see anyone enjoying your pedantic, off-putting, and petty posts here. I'm sure Dean Doty is writing another memo as we speak which will require your close reading.



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CoB Removed wrote:


I'll give you a label: idiot.




And I'll give you a label: idot.

There, we're even.



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LVN

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A moderator could look at the IP logs if they had that kind of time and energy to burn, but it would only tell who someone is if that person posted under their own name at about the same time. It would also be possible to tell if the same computer was being used for multiple noms at about the same time.

What some of these people don't understand is that over time it becomes more difficult to disguise one's own voice. People who analyze writing for a living, people in theatre or languages, are especially adept at recognizing the voices of certain posters. No IP needed.

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CoB Removed

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LVN wrote:

A moderator could look at the IP logs if they had that kind of time and energy to burn, but it would only tell who someone is if that person posted under their own name at about the same time. It would also be possible to tell if the same computer was being used for multiple noms at about the same time.

What some of these people don't understand is that over time it becomes more difficult to disguise one's own voice. People who analyze writing for a living, people in theatre or languages, are especially adept at recognizing the voices of certain posters. No IP needed.




My point was that I was not "accuracy please," and that the IP logs could be consulted. In fact, my direct statement was

"I did not post as 'accuracy please.' That is someone else. I am sure that the IP logs will show that to be true."

I didn't say anything about the practice of recording IPs, other than that they could be used to verify my claim in response to Reporter stating that

"I will give an explanation for CoB Removed's edification."

I simply pointed out that it was not I who brought this to light.


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4/16/06 H.A. OPINION:
Barbour refuses to grant Kennard pardon





http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060416/OPINION05/604160325/1014/OPINION

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Thanks to Truth and COBR for that wonderful food fight. It sure beat trying to feel warm & fuzzy about Easter. But back to the topic--Barbour is a racist, fascist, paid whore of the Bushevic Oligarchy. Actually, so is SFT--but that's the 1,000-pound gorilla in this room that nobody wants to talk about (probably not even me).

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Voter wrote:

Thanks to Truth and COBR for that wonderful food fight. It sure beat trying to feel warm & fuzzy about Easter. But back to the topic--Barbour is a racist, fascist, paid whore of the Bushevic Oligarchy. Actually, so is SFT--but that's the 1,000-pound gorilla in this room that nobody wants to talk about (probably not even me).



Oooh...that's intellectual debate at its best. Why don't you just talk about somebody's Mama while you're at it?

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Voter, if you are using up the words "fascist" and "whore" on a fair-to-middling governor like Haley Barbour, what words will you have left to use for the genuine article?

The problem with curses and names is that, used up and diluted, they are no longer effective when actually needed.

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Republican wrote:


Voter, if you are using up the words "fascist" and "whore" on a fair-to-middling governor like Haley Barbour, what words will you have left to use for the genuine article? The problem with curses and names is that, used up and diluted, they are no longer effective when actually needed.

As a liberal Dem (gasp), I would give Haley a C+ (that's a little above average without grade inflation) as gov. A bit better than Fordice or Musgrove (who were both C-), but not great. Politically, he is probably more aligned with the GHW Bush and Reagan crowd than with Dubya or the Hammer (which from my position is a big positive). In many ways, in fact, he is closer to Clinton than to Dubya (that may be heresy for a Republican to hear, but that's his record).

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Republican wrote:


... what words will you have left to use for the genuine article? The problem with curses and names is that, used up and diluted, they are no longer effective when actually needed.

I find that this problem is prevalent with some of our minority poor.  Because they use the "F-Word" and other curses for everyday adjectives and adverbs, you can't tell when they are really angry until they pull out a gun or knife.  In that culture weapons are necessary in order to communicate that you are angry or disagree.  

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