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CoAL Hahn

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Psychology, in some ways you aren't alone.  I was informed a minute ago that, although economics is being allowed to fill their 3 slots, apparently no one wants them.  And that's the case even without telling applicants that they will not have G.A.s.  Such is the state of USM these days.

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Tracks of my tears

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To the top!

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Brooke Burke's Rank

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On the Road to 100 baby!

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Bus Driver

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Economics just given the "no, not now" by a candidate.  Taking an offer with a 1/1 load the first year, and 2/1 for years after that.  Can also get funding for 3 international conferences per year, and salary equivalent to USM offer.  Also getting large amount of research-related resources. 

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psych grad student nc

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This is what we were talking about last week.  Look at the teaching load being offered this new hire.  1/1 and 1/2 --- why can't USM support our PhD program that way?

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Psych Prof with Grants and Pubs

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Economics just given the "no, not now" by a candidate.  Taking an offer with a 1/1 load the first year, and 2/1 for years after that.  Can also get funding for 3 international conferences per year, and salary equivalent to USM offer.  Also getting large amount of research-related resources. 
Ooo-can I transfer over to your department? Keep in mind that one of the few psychologists to win the Nobel did so for his contribution to economics!  

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visine

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Psych Prof with Grants and Pubs wrote:

Bus Driver wrote: Economics just given the "no, not now" by a candidate.  Taking an offer with a 1/1 load the first year, and 2/1 for years after that.  Can also get funding for 3 international conferences per year, and salary equivalent to USM offer.  Also getting large amount of research-related resources.  Ooo-can I transfer over to your department? Keep in mind that one of the few psychologists to win the Nobel did so for his contribution to economics!  

The candidate did NOT take the USM offer.  The offer he TOOK was from another school offering the 1/1 first year and the 2/1 thereafter, along with "unlimited" funding for research and 3 international conferences per year, and a REAL Dean.


HAD he taken the USM offer, he would have a 2/2 load the first year and a 3/3 load thereafter, with $900 for travel (per year) and limited research support (paper clips, etc.), and a PRETEND Dean.  The $900 translates to well less that 0.5 international conferences per year (i.e., one every 3 years). 



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gill

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A decision on the other offer is due tomorrow.  More excitement just around the corner.



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Insufficiently Engaged

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Bus Driver wrote:

Economics just given the "no, not now" by a candidate.  Taking an offer with a 1/1 load the first year, and 2/1 for years after that.  Can also get funding for 3 international conferences per year, and salary equivalent to USM offer.  Also getting large amount of research-related resources. 
Careful now, Bus Driver. If Econ trys to come even close to this, they too will be blasted by Jay "Sufficiently Deranged" Grimes, and his Greek Chorus, SCM and Dumb as a Broom.

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Wharf Rat

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Bus Driver wrote:

 Taking an offer with a 1/1 load the first year, and 2/1 for years after that. 
It's not unusual for departments elsewhere to give a course reduction to new faculty members in order to help ensure that they will hit the ground running. It's been done by at least one department at usm.

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stinky cheese man

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so that's why i like kalamata olives.

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Gone with the Wind

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Psych Prof with Grants and Pubs wrote:

Keep in mind that one of the few psychologists to win the Nobel did so for his contribution to economics!  
That would be Herb Simon - Carnegie-Mellon University.

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Outside Observer

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Gone with the Wind wrote:

Psych Prof with Grants and Pubs wrote: Keep in mind that one of the few psychologists to win the Nobel did so for his contribution to economics!   That would be Herb Simon - Carnegie-Mellon University.
I don't know....the older I get, the better satisficing looks to me.

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Unabridged Dictionary

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Outside Observer wrote:
the older I get, the better satisficing looks to me.
satisficing = ?

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Outside Observer

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Part of simon's theory of decision making.  Satisficing means we tend to do a sequential search and evaluation of alternatives, and we select the first alternative which minimally (satisfactorily) seems to meet our decision objectives.  Optimizing, a better decision process, involves searching for all feasible alternatives, then evaluating them simultaneously, to arrive at an optimal decision. 

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Gone with the Wind

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Outside Observer wrote:

Part of simon's theory of decision making.  Satisficing means we tend to do a sequential search and evaluation of alternatives, and we select the first alternative which minimally (satisfactorily) seems to meet our decision objectives.  Optimizing, a better decision process, involves searching for all feasible alternatives, then evaluating them simultaneously, to arrive at an optimal decision.  Te
Tell me, O.O., do you think the IHL uses Satisficing or Optimizing in making their decisions (e.g., the MSU presidential search).

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scienceRus

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I'm reasonably confident that USM has never had a nobel laureate among its ranks or we would be hearing about it ad nauseum in the PR releases and in student recruiting.  But have we ever had a National Acdemy of Science member on the faculty?

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Rimshot

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scienceRus wrote:
I'm reasonably confident that USM has never had a nobel laureate among its ranks or we would be hearing about it ad nauseum in the PR releases and in student recruiting.  But have we ever had a National Acdemy of Science member on the faculty?


No, but USM's next athletic director has a degree from the United States Sports Academy. Does that count?

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Jock

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Rimshot wrote:

 USM's next athletic director has a degree from the United States Sports Academy.
What conference are they in?

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Rimshot

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Jock wrote:
Rimshot wrote:
 USM's next athletic director has a degree from the United States Sports Academy.
What conference are they in?


I heard they're going to be the next addition to Conference USA.



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CoBmart

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gill wrote:

A decision on the other offer is due tomorrow.  More excitement just around the corner.
Any word?

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biv

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CoBmart wrote:

gill wrote: A decision on the other offer is due tomorrow.  More excitement just around the corner. Any word?
The guy with the remaining outstanding offer asked for a deadline extension --- from today to Monday --- to provide his answer.  Not the mark of someone itchin' to come on board.

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positive turn

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Don't worry, they're negotiating with a person from Delaware that visited earlier this year.

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bb mac

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positive turn wrote:

Don't worry, they're negotiating with a person from Delaware that visited earlier this year.
A female minority from what I was told tonight.  Good job.  Thanks for confirmation. 

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Sagacious

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bb mac wrote:
positive turn wrote:
Don't worry, they're negotiating with a person from Delaware that visited earlier this year.
A female minority from what I was told tonight.  Good job.  Thanks for confirmation. 


Might she be the same person who interviewed here earlier and withdrew from consideration after feeling the love - especially on the second floor - in the CoB? If so, it makes you wonder what could have changed.

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DMMBEB

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The outstanding offer was turned down this morning.  Current score: 3 openings, none filled.  Awaiting plans from above.

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drano

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DMMBEB wrote:

The outstanding offer was turned down this morning.  Current score: 3 openings, none filled.  Awaiting plans from above.
It all sounds like a botched search.

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Sagacious

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drano wrote:
DMMBEB wrote:
The outstanding offer was turned down this morning.  Current score: 3 openings, none filled.  Awaiting plans from above.
It all sounds like a botched search.


What about the Delaware person?

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Tired of being sick

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drano wrote:
DMMBEB wrote:
The outstanding offer was turned down this morning.  Current score: 3 openings, none filled.  Awaiting plans from above.
It all sounds like a botched search.


Will this result in more unneeded Management hires?

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CoBmart

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Don't know, but another USM ecofin faculty got an offer today.

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