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ambassador of the quan

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I have had occasion to work closely with Dean Doty over the past 3 years and I find that much of what you see posted on this board about him is unfounded.  It's hard to know where to start.  I'll just describe the person that I've encountered since he arrived at USM.


Dean Doty is a very quiet and humble person.  He listens intently when issues are being discussed, and he always seeks advice and counsel from others.  In fact, he listens almost to a fault.  You might say that policy is made excessively slowly in the college because he listens to others so much.


He is a very unassuming person.  His many interactions with business students are pleasant, and his classroom rapport with them is unprecedented in the college.  This is evidenced by the capacity overflow in his course each semester.  Students usually register for his course before attempting to enroll in others in order to preserve a seat for themselves.


He treats executive assistants in the college with the utmost respect.  He allowed them to participate fully in the process of developing assessment guidelines for their work.  They were very appreciative of his attention to details that concern their workplace in the college.  Every assistant that was working in the college when he arrived in 2002 is still in Hattiesburg.  That says a lot about his managerial skills vis-a-vis assistants.


He moves about the building in a reserved manner, arms nestled snugly to his side.  He spends almost inordinate amounts of time in faculty office suites on the 3rd floor, seeking input from faculty on problems and concerns they might have about the college and the direction it may be headed at any given time.  I, personally, have never seen a Dean spend more time with faculty, where they work, than Dean Doty in the 23 years I have been at USM. 


There isn't an ounce of hubris in his entire body.  You never hear him speak about his 3 premier publications, his experience at reknown universities, or any other such boasting.  It's just not there, and its absence is a breath of fresh air.  He does so little talking about these things that I, and most others, don't even know where he attended graduate school.   


He doesn't flaunt his authority or economic status at work.  Each day he parks his modest vehicle in a small parking lot next to the Thames Building, and walks the distance into Greene Hall.  That means that every morning a CoB faculty member is allowed to park next to the building when they arrive at work. 


He employs a number of people in his office, and he sets an example of dignity and grace for them all to follow.  On occasion, young female faculty from other countries will enter the suite to drop off some resignation paperwork and he's sure to greet them with a smile and a "How are you?"  It's almost as if they are his own children.


Of course, there are problems, as there are in any large organization.  Sometimes CoB faculty don't see eye-to-eye with Dean Doty on things.  When that happens, he usually pulls a few of them aside, into his conference room perhaps, and they have a productive discussion that resolves issues to his satisfaction.  He is so benevolent that participants in these meetings are usually compelled to give him sole authority, on behalf of all CoB faculty, to act on projects and policies. 


Finally, I would add that Dean Doty has done more than any previous officeholder to curb the "special privilege" mindset that has pervaded the college.  I don't think anyone, friend or foe, in the college would dispute that.  It goes without saying.



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ambassador of the quan

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"2002" should be "2003."  Sorry.  Everything else is accurate.

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Southern Justice

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I...can't...stop...laughing.... I...can't...stop...laughing.... I...can't...stop...laughing....

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Pal Joey

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Ok, ha ha.  I get it.  Clever satire.  You don't like his mannerisms, car, sense of humor, et al.  But what has he really done to deserve the constant criticism?  There was a time--when he protected the CoB from the Provost's mandate to teach more, research less, etc. etc. (i.e., the Black Friday memo)--that he was hailed as your champion!  You praised him...rallied around him!


Why have the alliances changed? 


Do you blame him for the mass exodus of junior faculty from one department?  Is that his doing, or does that reflect more upon the senior faculty in that department?  Think about it.  The departing junior faculty are far too dignified to say as much, even on their way out, but what's the truth there?  The remaining senior faculty in that department should be honest with themselves. Does it reflect more on Doty, or you?


Do you blame him for the Digital MBA?  Wasn't that a mandate from above?  Isn't it dead-in-the-water now anyway?


Do you blame him for the loss of GAs in the college?  He's trying to save them! 


From what I've heard, the DD promotion debacle was grim, I'll admit.  But is that trainwreck Doty's fault exclusively? 


I know I'm going to get flamed unmercifully, but I really want to know.  What, specifically, has Doty done to incur so much wrath? 



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CoBmart

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Pal Joey wrote:

Ok, ha ha.  I get it.  Clever satire.  You don't like his mannerisms, car, sense of humor, et al.  But what has he really done to deserve the constant criticism?  There was a time--when he protected the CoB from the Provost's mandate to teach more, research less, etc. etc. (i.e., the Black Friday memo)--that he was hailed as your champion!  You praised him...rallied around him! Why have the alliances changed?  Do you blame him for the mass exodus of junior faculty from one department?  Is that his doing, or does that reflect more upon the senior faculty in that department?  Think about it.  The departing junior faculty are far too dignified to say as much, even on their way out, but what's the truth there?  The remaining senior faculty in that department should be honest with themselves. Does it reflect more on Doty, or you? Do you blame him for the Digital MBA?  Wasn't that a mandate from above?  Isn't it dead-in-the-water now anyway? Do you blame him for the loss of GAs in the college?  He's trying to save them!  From what I've heard, the DD promotion debacle was grim, I'll admit.  But is that trainwreck Doty's fault exclusively?  I know I'm going to get flamed unmercifully, but I really want to know.  What, specifically, has Doty done to incur so much wrath? 
So, you're saying the junior profs like Doty and dislike the senior profs in their own department, but they're simply to dignified to say it.  The "Shame on You!" comment was an "inside joke" between Doty (the lovable teddy bear) and his junior faculty.  The real reason they are leaving is that they can't stand GC, their chair.  I understand now.

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watch out for the minions

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Now they are attacking GC and others, saying they "ran off" all the junior faculty in the department.  Unreal.

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Pal Joey

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CoBmart wrote:

So, you're saying the junior profs like Doty and dislike the senior profs in their own department, but they're simply to dignified to say it.  The "Shame on You!" comment was an "inside joke" between Doty (the lovable teddy bear) and his junior faculty.  The real reason they are leaving is that they can't stand GC, their chair.  I understand now.

I didn't blame GC.  It's not the former chair, either.  It's more likely others.  It's more likely the whole culture in that department generally.  Not all senior faculty have made it that way.  You know it.  I know it.  Everybody knows it.  Don't deflect it on to others.   


She didn't quit because of the "shame on you?," did she?  That comment was made in response to her quitting.  But what made her quit in the first place?  Besides, even if he wasn't kidding around (and he probably was), is "shame on you" really that awful?  I don't get it. 


I also didn't exactly say his comment was an "inside joke" or that Doty is a loveable teddy bear, either.    


Now, can you answer the question?  What has he really done to incur so much wrath?  Are you saying that "shame on you" is the sole reason?   It started before that.  Why?      



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Breaking Bonadoty

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It's amazing to check the board every morning and see what Doty and his henchmen are up to.  Their flailing has no limits, even if it means attacking a "friend."  It's hard to believe that GC is now partly responsible for the loss of 3 junior faculty this week, or so they say. 

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dr. know

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I think she had personal reasons for leaving.  Let's not blame anybody for anything regarding that particular departure.

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Dr. Phil

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Pal Joey wrote:

 What has he really done to incur so much wrath?  ....  It started before that.  Why?      
Isn't it obvious?  The COBers didn't have a say in Doty's selection,  and Shelby did.  Doty's not without fault,  but Thames could have hired Mother Teresa as Dean and she'd be picked apart too.  Everyone and everthing SFT touches becomes tainted,  and it will always be so.

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Mirror, Mirror in the CoB

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The only people "attacking" anyone are the mulligrubs intent on bringing down the College of Business and its administration.  They take phrases out of context; they twist words; they play off of each other to create the sense that there are more of them than there are; they spread lies; they cause dissent; they profess respect for honor and integrity that they do not themselves exhibit; they attempt to divide and conquer; they speculate and then repeat rumors as if there were agreement and proof; they tear down and never build up; they act unprofessionally; they post lewdly; they demean colleagues; they rally around the foundations of the Academy but don't accept shared governance when their agendas are not supported.


People inside and outside the College know who these people are, know what damage they have done in the past and what damage they continue to do now. These few faculty members, aided by some outsiders, are an embarassment to the College, the University, the Academy, and the Community.  They certainly are not helping any higher cause to which posters of integrity remain committed.



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It may have been the senior faculty's fault for the departure, who knows.  But, I can tell you it would not have been anything to do with GC.  If you know him, you understand. 


Based on the level of interaction with junior people, it would really have to be CS.  Some could understand that.  Let's not drag a good man like GC into this.



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Mulligrubs (Pronunciation: (mul'i-grubz"), Southern U.S. (meaning) ill temper; colic; grumpiness.

While archaic, the term does seem more to describe administrators. Since most of the CBA faculty are working hard to produce research papers that are publishable, they have little time to be grumpy. They are disappointed by the lack of leadership by the dean. The young faculty who are leaving will be glad to tell you that they were encouraged from day one to publish. The motto is, “we want you to produce research sufficient to allow you to move if you choose. That way, there is never an issue at tenure and promotion time. Young faculty also know that others will read and comment on their research to make improvements. To put a touch of the truth to why these young faculty are leaving; two are leaving for geographic preferences stemming from family issues, one is leaving partly due to location preferences (larger city) and partly due to environment.

Ironically, a bad environment often leads to a short-run improvement in research output as people try to improve their chances of getting a job elsewhere. If the bad environment continues, it reduces the chances of hiring good young faculty. So far, the new hires in COB for this year are of similar quality to previous hires. Much of that has to do with the efforts of the Department Chair who plows ahead regardless of what else is going on.


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neutral observer wrote:

It may have been the senior faculty's fault for the departure, who knows.  But, I can tell you it would not have been anything to do with GC.  If you know him, you understand.  Based on the level of interaction with junior people, it would really have to be CS.  Some could understand that.  Let's not drag a good man like GC into this.
Stephen, is that you?  My faucet is still jacked up!

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Wishful Thinking

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ambassador of the quan, your posting reminds me of the adoring letter Dr. Thames' secretary wrote on his behalf.  If you want to see the Dr. Doty that most of us see, take a look at the video that the school in Florida made during his failed interview.  That is the pompous, self-serving, braggart that most of us have come to know and not love.



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Not in COB

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WT, are you humor-impaired?

Everyone in business should be made to take a course in forms of discourse, starting with satire . . .



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harbinger

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Mirror, Mirror in the CoB wrote:

The only people "attacking" anyone are the mulligrubs intent on bringing down the College of Business and its administration. 
Wait until the third-year review sabotage takes off. 

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Southern Justice

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This is an incredible thread. ambassador of the quan's post was obviously facetious, as anybody who spends or has spent any time in the CoB can attest. The good ambassador's post sure hit a nerve, because now we're seeing a lot of Dotyminion activity. "What has Doty done?" "Maybe it's the fault of senior faculty." There are other innuendo present that tell me I'm seeing posts here by one or two of the handful of people who benefit from Doty's presence.

What has Doty done? He has demonstrated a striking distaste for faculty input. Apparently, even those individuals who have been on faculty at other, more prestigious institutions than USM are not worthy to voice an opinion or to help make decisions regarding their own college. Doty has demonstrated his unwillingness to follow faculty governance principles by repeatedly making decisions that affect academic programs and faculty without holding a faculty vote. Doty did indeed stand against the "Black Friday" memo, but where was his resolve in so many of the other issues that have arisen since then? It's just not there. He refuses to listen to viewpoints that do not support his course of action. He continually boasts about his accomplishments while using a high-handed approach to administration; in fact, he often seems to view himself as ruler rather than an administrator.

Could these economics departures be related to senior faculty activities/attitudes? One economics faculty member is leaving for purely personal/family reasons. One is leaving primarily because of environmental/USM reasons. One is leaving because of a mixture of family and environmental reasons. Just what environmental issues are in question? One issue is the ridiculous behavior of a dean whose stated demands for tenure include multiple premier-level publications (consistent with top research schools far above the realm of USM) but who then assigns teaching heavy loads with multiple preparations (consistent with low-level teaching schools) and then chastizes young faculty for not publishing in premier journals, regardless of their teaching load. One issue is the constant chaos that reigns in the CoB because of Doty's inability to focus on one major task to completion before beginning two, three, or more other major initiatives. It is clear to young CoB faculty that Doty is building his resume on their backs and by the sweat of their brows. Why should they allow him to substitute their time and effort for his own? Another issue is the frequency of inappropriate comments/jokes/whatever without regard for audience, place, or time. Another issue is the persistent scowl that has resided on Doty's face since his arrival and having to deal with the personality that accompanies that scowl. Another issue is his complete lack of respect for CoB faculty in general -- they apparently have nothing to offer of value, no experience worthy of communication, no intelligent thoughts worthy of inclusion, no talent that can be used without constant pressure and guidance. Another issue is the fact that Doty claims to be a management expert, yet he fails at many of his so-called specialty areas: organizational behavior (he acts like he can get maximum output by running a sweatshop -- demand more output with fewer resources), leadership ("do what I say or else"), human resources management ("let's treat all employees like crap and expect them to love us"), and so on.

There are, however, two or three groups of individuals who have benefited from Doty's administration. If you stack the vitas of the "malcontented troublemakers" against the vitas of the "Doty minions", you will find that (1) the anti-Doty group far outnumbers the minions and that (2) the anti-Doty group out-teaches, out-publishes, and out-services the minions, with one exception: the minions perform more service that directly helps Doty in building his vita so that he can leave USM (their research and teaching still pale in comparison).

Believe me, there are very few in the CoB who want Doty to stay. Even some of the minions would like him to leave -- they're just playing along to get some benefits. Most every anti-Doty individual would be willing to do real, meaningful work that would benefit the college and would, therefore, make Doty look better (more attractive to other business schools). However, what the anti-Doty group will not stand for is consistent lowering of standards for education of USM students, consistent efforts to put curricula online when traditional curricula have been seriously weakened by SFT, consistent efforts to stifle free expression, consistent efforts to intimidate faculty into submission, consistent micro-mismanagement, consistent increases in the ratio of at-will employees to tenured faculty members, and consistent unprofessional behavior from top leadership in the college.

Doty and minions, you've had your fun. You've shown that you cannot be trusted to act in a fair and consistent manner. You've shown that you support different standards for different groups, depending on whose friend you are. It's a pathetic existence you've carved out in the CoB. It will not last.


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Far Away Alum

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Dr. Phil wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:  What has he really done to incur so much wrath?  ....  It started before that.  Why?       Isn't it obvious?  The COBers didn't have a say in Doty's selection,  and Shelby did.  Doty's not without fault,  but Thames could have hired Mother Teresa as Dean and she'd be picked apart too.  Everyone and everthing SFT touches becomes tainted,  and it will always be so.
This is one of the most accurate posts on this board.

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interested in COB

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I went to the website to investigate what "Southern Justice" writes about and found that publication records are displayed only for thise faculty in economics, finance, international business and business law, which I think is a single department.  Where are publication records for management and marketing, etc.?  Why aren't they displayed?

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dr. know

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I think you can still get all CoB faculty pubs from the library site.  Dunno how up to date they are, though. 

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ambassador of the quan

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I went to the South Florida website and viewed the webcast of Dean Doty's interview talk there, as "Wishful Thinking" suggested.  I believe he/she thought I would get a different view of Doty.  I did.  I have an even greater positive sense about him than before.  Let me explain.


Dean Doty began his talk with several "ice breakers" that put the crowd at ease, and made them more comfortable.  He told them some important truths about himself.  Two that come to mind are (a) that he believes shared governance is very important, and (b) he said: "I love doing research."  Both of these statements are true.  The first is supported by his actions at USM, and the second is buttressed by the fact that he spent 2 decades doing research before he ever got into administration.  Most of the non-CoBMob knows about these qualities.


Telling the group that he had been trying to get to USF for 15 years was also a nice touch.  It revealed a secret about himself to them, and made them feel special.


Unlike Southern Miss, USF has a doctoral program(s).  He told them: "I love doctoral programs."  I have no way to evaluate this, but I truly believe it.  He talked about how he coauthored a paper with one of his former PhD students and they had it accepted at the Journal of Business Research.   


He continued to be charming, using phrases like "we're in tall cotton" etc.  He told the group: "I am a strategy guy."  I have never heard him say that before, and didn't even know it before now.  That's part of his reserved nature, not speaking very much about himself.  That's what endears him staff in JGH.


He commented accurately that Phoenix can do what they do because they have a different cost structure given the fact that they aren't supporting knowledge creation.  For this very reason he has fought to the end against the move to "go online" at Southern Miss.  I applaud him for that.


When he laid out the qualities of a top ranked college of business, I was reminded of why our own college voted 63-1-1 for him to be our Dean (over the other candidates that were brought it).  Here are the top 2 ingredients:


               1. Recruit and retain good faculty


               2. Support high-level research


The young faculty that have left that single department where much of the CoBMob resides were even doing research.  When they left, Dean Doty still had the class to greet them with a smile and show them respect.  The fact that they were women and he a gentleman had little to do with it.  It's simply his M.O. for everyone.  It's special, and rare.


The two most telling things about the greatness of the Dean come from two stories he told.  The first is about the Real Estate major.  Members of the CoBMoB were fighting like mad the cut the program.  But, because Hattiesburg has a large real estate presence, he was unwilling to cancel the major.  Instead, he stayed at Greene Hall late into the evening everday for a week putting together a plan to save the major, all the while that the CoBMoB went home and relaxed.  I don't even want to call them "the CoBMoB" anymore.  They're "evil doers."  Imagine, not helping someone who's trying to save a vital curriculum.


The other thing is about the "fun money."  I realize there is a website now devoted to exposing "fun money" shenanigans.  What that author fails to get is the Dean's quirky sense of humor --- a quality that everyone else is crazy about.  As Dean Doty indicated, he can't use state E&G dollars to supplement salaries.  He uses private dollars to do that.  And, as he said on 9/26/05 down in Tampa, he was supporting about 1/3 of his faculty, including CoBMoBers, with private support.  This included about 7 BAC professorships. 


I think what much of the hoopla boils down to is jealousy among the CoBMoB of what the Dean has accomplished.  I think it's fair to say he's the best Dean the college has ever had.  If any group has anything even close to room for complaining, it might be the USMGC part of the CoB.  I have heard he favors Hattiesburg over Long Beach.  But that's an issue for another day.  Like I said, nobody's perfect. 



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ambassador of the quan

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"The young faculty that have left that single department where much of the CoBMob resides were even doing research.  When they left, Dean Doty still had the class to greet them with a smile and show them respect.  The fact that they were women and he a gentleman had little to do with it.  It's simply his M.O. for everyone.  It's special, and rare."


should have been ". . .they weren't even doing research."



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Austin Eagle

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ambassador of the quan wrote:

Dean Doty still had the class to greet them with a smile and show them respect.  The fact that they were women and he a gentleman had little to do with it.  It's simply his M.O. for everyone.  It's special, and rare.....the greatness of the Dean

Heck, I don't even know Harold Doty but just reading your testimonial brought tears to my eyes.  If we ever should meet,  I don't think I'll be able to resist giving the great one a big hug.  How did Texas allow such a gem to get away?


AE



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ambassador of the quan wrote:




I went to the South Florida website and viewed the webcast of Dean Doty's interview talk there, as "Wishful Thinking" suggested.  I believe he/she thought I would get a different view of Doty.  I did.  I have an even greater positive sense about him than before.  Let me explain. Dean Doty began his talk with several "ice breakers" that put the crowd at ease, and made them more comfortable.  He told them some important truths about himself.  Two that come to mind are (a) that he believes shared governance is very important, and (b) he said: "I love doing research."  Both of these statements are true.  The first is supported by his actions at USM, and the second is buttressed by the fact that he spent 2 decades doing research before he ever got into administration. 


He spent about 5/6 years at Arkansas and 2/3 at Syracuse before he go into administration.  Not even 1 decade.  Also, he is now famous for using the ad hoc committee, the marketing chair, a revote orchestrated by the full professor from Nicholls State, etc. to get his digital MBA through the CoB.


Most of the non-CoBMob knows about these qualities. Telling the group that he had been trying to get to USF for 15 years was also a nice touch.  It revealed a secret about himself to them, and made them feel special. Unlike Southern Miss, USF has a doctoral program(s).  He told them: "I love doctoral programs."  I have no way to evaluate this, but I truly believe it.  He talked about how he coauthored a paper with one of his former PhD students and they had it accepted at the Journal of Business Research.   


He also said on the video that he doesn't coauthor with junior faculty at places where he serves as administrator.  Guess he has no problem walking up a flight of stairs to submit papers to journals edited by faculty that work where he serves as Dean.  No pressure there. 


He continued to be charming, using phrases like "we're in tall cotton" etc.  He told the group: "I am a strategy guy."  I have never heard him say that before, and didn't even know it before now.  That's part of his reserved nature, not speaking very much about himself.  That's what endears him staff in JGH.


Everyone knows he taught strategy to sophomores at Syracuse.


He commented accurately that Phoenix can do what they do because they have a different cost structure given the fact that they aren't supporting knowledge creation.  For this very reason he has fought to the end against the move to "go online" at Southern Miss.  I applaud him for that.


He wants everyone to remember how he fought Grimes' black Friday memo, dictating that CoB should position itself to fight Phoenix.  Now he's full steam ahead on every online program under the sun.  Even gave a new hire an online course upon request.


When he laid out the qualities of a top ranked college of business, I was reminded of why our own college voted 63-1-1 for him to be our Dean (over the other candidates that were brought it).  Here are the top 2 ingredients:                1. Recruit and retain good faculty                2. Support high-level research The young faculty that have left that single department where much of the CoBMob resides were even doing research.  When they left, Dean Doty still had the class to greet them with a smile and show them respect.  The fact that they were women and he a gentleman had little to do with it.  It's simply his M.O. for everyone.  It's special, and rare.


This is the "shame on you" scene everyone knows about.


The two most telling things about the greatness of the Dean come from two stories he told.  The first is about the Real Estate major.  Members of the CoBMoB were fighting like mad the cut the program.  But, because Hattiesburg has a large real estate presence, he was unwilling to cancel the major.  Instead, he stayed at Greene Hall late into the evening everday for a week putting together a plan to save the major, all the while that the CoBMoB went home and relaxed.  I don't even want to call them "the CoBMoB" anymore.  They're "evil doers."  Imagine, not helping someone who's trying to save a vital curriculum.


Everyone knows that a junior faculty and the chair of EFIB saved the real estate program.  Doty wanted badly to cut it.  Went down to Tampa and told them the opposite.  You can see the misdeed on his face in the video.


The other thing is about the "fun money."  I realize there is a website now devoted to exposing "fun money" shenanigans.  What that author fails to get is the Dean's quirky sense of humor --- a quality that everyone else is crazy about.  As Dean Doty indicated, he can't use state E&G dollars to supplement salaries.  He uses private dollars to do that.  And, as he said on 9/26/05 down in Tampa, he was supporting about 1/3 of his faculty, including CoBMoBers, with private support.  This included about 7 BAC professorships. 


He hadn't awarded any BAC professorships since Fall of 2004 at the time he made this speech.  Two days later he eliminated the program.  Now, no one knows what he's doing with the "fun money."  We may soon know (follow usmpride.com for more).


 I think what much of the hoopla boils down to is jealousy among the CoBMoB of what the Dean has accomplished.  I think it's fair to say he's the best Dean the college has ever had.  If any group has anything even close to room for complaining, it might be the USMGC part of the CoB.  I have heard he favors Hattiesburg over Long Beach.  But that's an issue for another day.  Like I said, nobody's perfect. 


Actually, one of the things he's been successful is cultivating a coast/burg division in the CoB.  He's created a little constituency by doing so.





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quan to english wrote:

 Actually, one of the things he's been successful is cultivating a coast/burg division in the CoB.  He's created a little constituency by doing so.

Oh sure, he's really heaped the lion's share of CoB resources on to his "constituency" on the coast.  Lucky ba$tard$.  They've really got it swell. 


What a joke.   


 



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Southern Justice

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Insane in the Membrane wrote:
quan to english wrote:
 Actually, one of the things he's been successful is cultivating a coast/burg division in the CoB.  He's created a little constituency by doing so.

Oh sure, he's really heaped the lion's share of CoB resources on to his "constituency" on the coast.  Lucky ba$tard$.  They've really got it swell. 
What a joke.   
 


Quite frankly, prior to Katrina the Coast faculty had been treated like kings and queens by Doty. Coast faculty were "excused" (in an annual evaluation sense) from attending committee meetings in Hattiesburg. Hattiesburg faculty were assigned to drive to the Coast campuses (Jackson County, Stennis, and Gulf Park) to teach classes that should have been handled by Coast faculty, but I have absolutely no memory of any coast faculty driving to Hattiesburg to teach pre-Katrina under Doty. Doty cultivated an entitlement mindset with his coast faculty. He played to their long-standing sense of marginality. He circumvented the faculty handbook for at least two Coast faculty.

Obviously the Coast campus and all faculty were affected by Katrina. In a secret meeting, Hattiesburg faculty cast an ancient and mysterious spell to draw Hurricane Katrina to the Coast. The purpose: to punish the Coast faculty for living in a nice place and for having more day-to-day freedoms. What a load of crap! Stop playing the Katrina card. While lives in the Coast communities will not reach a sense of normality for some time, to continually use Katrina as a crutch is ridiculous. Accountants on the Coast still have to file taxes for their non-Coast-resident clients by April 15. Lawyers on the coast still have to represent their clients, even if the venue has been changed. Some of these professionals lost homes, loved ones, possessions, and other things to Katrina, yet they continue to work to rebuild without getting a free pass.

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That program he eliminated was begun by Bill Gunther.  I wonder when he will even tell us it was eliminated.

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Southern Justice wrote:

      Quite frankly, prior to Katrina the Coast faculty had been treated like kings and queens by Doty. Coast faculty were "excused" (in an annual evaluation sense) from attending committee meetings in Hattiesburg. Hattiesburg faculty were assigned to drive to the Coast campuses (Jackson County, Stennis, and Gulf Park) to teach classes that should have been handled by Coast faculty, but I have absolutely no memory of any coast faculty driving to Hattiesburg to teach pre-Katrina under Doty. Doty cultivated an entitlement mindset with his coast faculty. He played to their long-standing sense of marginality. He circumvented the faculty handbook for at least two Coast faculty. Obviously the Coast campus and all faculty were affected by Katrina. In a secret meeting, Hattiesburg faculty cast an ancient and mysterious spell to draw Hurricane Katrina to the Coast. The purpose: to punish the Coast faculty for living in a nice place and for having more day-to-day freedoms. What a load of crap! Stop playing the Katrina card. While lives in the Coast communities will not reach a sense of normality for some time, to continually use Katrina as a crutch is ridiculous. Accountants on the Coast still have to file taxes for their non-Coast-resident clients by April 15. Lawyers on the coast still have to represent their clients, even if the venue has been changed. Some of these professionals lost homes, loved ones, possessions, and other things to Katrina, yet they continue to work to rebuild without getting a free pass.

SJ,


I don't think anyone on the coast is using Katrina as a crutch.  Everyone I know is doing their thing down there (including faculty).  Sure, there are some complaints, but those usually come from the ones who lost the most personally. 


I'd like to read specifc evidence regarding your other assertions. 


Who was excused (in an annual review sense) from attending committee meetings? 


How did Doty circumvent the Faculty Handbook for two faculty?  Which two?


As far as coast faculty teaching in H'burg, I can think of at least three prior to Katrina.  Check it out.


Any other specific evidence you'd like to provide regarding your other assertions (other than the one about H'burg faculty conjuring Katrina) would be greatly appreciated. 


Thanks.



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The only one I can think of is the fourth year review story. 

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