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stinky cheese man

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jameela--with all due respect, i have been careful not to attribute motives to the post that initiated this thread. but i will also note, you don't mention the original post on this thread and the context that was omitted (sp?). in the context of the message, and in the context of additional messages sent from the pr office, i think it is an unnecessary overreaction.

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Profiler

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Outside Observer wrote:


Does this sound like the "real" stinky cheese man?

If you'll go back in time, many months ago, maybe even to the old board, I think you might conclude that it does.

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stinky cheese man

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profiler--thank you. it's an interesting question--what would it take to prove i'm the stinky cheese man?

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Invictus

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stinky cheese man wrote:

profiler--thank you. it's an interesting question--what would it take to prove i'm the stinky cheese man?



Run, run, as fast as you can, maybe?



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Jameela Lares

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stinky cheese man wrote:

jameela--with all due respect, i have been careful not to attribute motives to the post that initiated this thread. but i will also note, you don't mention the original post on this thread and the context that was omitted (sp?). in the context of the message, and in the context of additional messages sent from the pr office, i think it is an unnecessary overreaction.



And with all due respect back, SCM (whoever you really are), your own words to Amy--"you chose . . . you took it out of context, now realize it, and are trying to save face. now you're trying to extrapolate it"--certainly do sound like mind-reading and motive-assigning to me. As for me, I thought my initial response was calm and reasonable at the time. If I had thought I needed to second-guess what someone else on the board might not know-- But perhaps that's the problem: because of a flawed administration, we are very, very tired from months of hypervigilance and doing extra work to clean up bad decisions from higher up. If you do want to read minds, I think we're stretched thin enough to rate your more charitable construction.

And to everyone, if the mistaken form of a PR letter echoing through our messed-up e-mail system is all that we have to worry about today, perhaps things are finally getting better.

JL

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stinky cheese man

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jameela--you last paragraph has been my thought all along about this thread and the original memo. and if you check where i jumped in, it wasn't right away. i got worn out by a spin on the initial thread that i thought was unwarranted but due to the out-of-context presentation of the original pr release. i will note you do not go so far as to support amy's claim that somehow the memo was directed at faculty. i know many colleagues who simply "blew the memo off." 'nuff said.

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Invictus wrote:


Run, run, as fast as you can, maybe?

Some of us get that...

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stinky cheese man

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invictus--thanks!

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Invictus

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stinky cheese man wrote:

i know many colleagues who simply "blew the memo off." 'nuff said.



If USM faculty are even remotely like most other faculty, the majority blew it off

(A lot of folks at my institution have their email filters set to send anything from the PR department straight to the "bit bucket.")

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USM Faculty

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 (A lot of folks at my institution have their email filters set to send anything from the PR department straight to the "bit bucket.")

Invictus, much of the time at USM we get the first information about a problem or the "next dumb thing" going on from the local newspaper.  If we read the PR announcement, we learn what the Academic Council or Faculty Senate will learn a few hours later.

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Rico Away

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According to my favorite online dictionary, dictionary.com, "email" is just fine, as is "all the time." When referring to a specific university, calling it the "University" is also acceptable. Also, as I intended, it is "person(s)" -- perhaps there is one person who may best answer the media's question about a nursing issue, but there may be a need for two people to give different perspectives on a Presidential (that's U.S.) issue, possibly an historian and a political scientist. Maybe you should get a job teaching people how to exhibit bad manners by correcting other people's grammar...incorrectly.



 
Wow. You have a handy-dandy dictionary! Glad to see you are expanding your horizons.
 
But professionals in the PR business typically use AP style when they write, no matter who it may be for (newspaper, mailout, whatever). It becomes habit (well, for professionals who do professional work) to use the same style of writing so that they are consistent and not just using, oh, let's say "acceptable" anything. "Acceptable" is so .... common. And your explanation for "persons?" Talk about spin!
 
Using a capital U for university is "acceptable," but remember: I was talking about professional writers. True, it's no big deal, but ... bad writing is bad writing.
 
And, sweetie, I make more money than you could ever dream of, so don't you worry about me. I'm doing fine, and I can sleep at night.
 
Can you?
 

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Madison Ave.

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One observation: There is a body of language known as American English that is a living body. Words are added every year as our culture creates them. There is a stable system of grammar. "AP Style," "MLA Style," "APA Style," and other specialized systems were simply attempts to give individuals who work in certain areas guidelines but have become barriers that certain professions (and certain types of people) use to create the illusion of superiority. Your tone belies your arrogance.

I sleep just fine. I don't have to rely on the AP style to validate my intelligence.

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Rico Away

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Some "barriers" are but necessary guidelines to help maintain consistency for both writers and readers. I doubt those who use consistency in other fields would think their ways "arrogant."

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Top Secret Double Agent

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It's my experience that one rarely is able to identify his own arrogance.

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Madison Ave. wrote:


Your tone belies your arrogance.

I sleep just fine. I don't have to rely on the AP style to validate my intelligence.




But possibly a dictionary would help. Start with looking up "belies."


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Hollywood and Vine

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Madison Ave. wrote:


I don't have to rely on the AP style

Is that because letters to the editor do not require APA style?

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Madison Ave.

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Hollywood and Vine wrote:

Madison Ave. wrote:
I don't have to rely on the AP style
Is that because letters to the editor do not require APA style?




Ummmm...no...to the best of my knowledge, AP style is the Associated Press style mentioned earlier by another poster.

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