Tim Hatten is the head coach at PRCC. They won the national championship last year. So if Tim Hatten is leaving the dome, I am assuming the original poster is speculating that the HC job would go to Hatten, not BF.
Cheeze heads do not follow juco football so I did not recognized TH. I still hear the BF is the man for the future. But it was not for the upcoming season. I cannot believe that USM would make a change this year.
cheeze head wrote: Cheeze heads do not follow juco football so I did not recognized TH. I still hear the BF is the man for the future. But it was not for the upcoming season. I cannot believe that USM would make a change this year.
I'm with you. More likely, he is making the move to one of the assistant coaches.
Brett Favre is not ready to be a head coach. Just because he can play doesn't mean he can coach. He may well be a good coach, but no one knows at this juncture. However, Steve Mariucci (sp?) was canned yesterday. Bring him in as HC and Favre as the QB coach. I think Steve was his QB coach for a while at GB. He could groom Brett for the job as he probably wouldn't stay that long anyway. Hey, this fantasy world is fun.
Are there NCAA protocols for hiring a head coach? Remember what happened at Auburn two years ago when the Auburn prez and the AD went to Louiville to hire their coach before Tubby was gone. Tubby is still at Auburn and the prez and the AD are gone....Could we get as lucky? Does Jeff had any political power?
Fourth down wrote: cheeze head wrote: Cheeze heads do not follow juco football so I did not recognized TH. I still hear the BF is the man for the future. But it was not for the upcoming season. I cannot believe that USM would make a change this year.
I'm with you. More likely, he is making the move to one of the assistant coaches.
Candidates for "assistant" football coach don't meet in the Dome, they meet in the Athletic Center with the Ath Dir........., keep an eye out something may happen soon..........
The reason the FireShelby Board was orginally founded (and one of the primary reasons this board continues) was to provide a safe spot for discussion about the course of the university and, explicitly, actions of the administration. One of the reasons behind people taking on identities was because it provided protection -- it allowed things to be said that might not be said for fear of retribution from the power brokers. Many people with noms became well known in their anonymity because they took consistent positions that they were willing to continue to maintain under the same identity. This allowed for a certain kind of "knowing" of those anonymous contributors -- a knowing that encouraged critical thinking because it provided a context and history to ongoing discussions.
The current practice of the "one hit" johnnies who create new threads, make a comment or two, and then flee does little to do this. For one thing, the johnnies seldom say anything dangerous enough to need to hide behind a nom. In fact, the use of a nom allows at least some of them to avoid taking responsibility for anything they utter.
I'd like to encourage folks who have something to say but no real reason to fear retribution to come out and use your real name. Or at the very least, create one identity and stick to it. And then, if something you say gets challenged, come back and respond with good reasoning. A number of folks on this board who have sometimes challenged the perceived ethos of the Board have done this ("Seeker" I'm thinking of you.) It is far more helpful -- I think those kinds of conversations have pushed our thinking further. At the very least they have challenged us to continue to look for civil and rational ways to respond to disagreements. And that strategy also serves to help preserve some level of responsibility within those who use the Board for what they utter.
Any virtual community relies on some common agreements about the rules of civil discourse in order to preserve its unity. One of those is the trust that those who use a chat a chat board have good intentions. The signs of good intent are easy -- honest and reasonably continuous engagement in discussion and the establishment of a stable identity. People who violate those principles are not only having a good time at the expense of others, but they are an active threat to the trust necessary to keep this kind of discourse alive.
I'm sorry if I am stepping on any toes -- it isn't my intent.
Petal Eagle wrote: sporty wrote: He (Dr. Thames) also had lunch at a local restaurant with Carl Torbush just a short while ago. This is getting good. Is this the same Torbush who used to coach at UNC-CH?
Yes it is. He was fired this week by Dennis Franchione (Texas A&M). I was not surprised to hear he is/was in town. He's a "name" many know, and will probably appeal in a lot of ways to Dr. Thames.
The reason the FireShelby Board was orginally founded (and one of the primary reasons this board continues) was to provide a safe spot for discussion about the course of the university and, explicitly, actions of the administration. One of the reasons behind people taking on identities was because it provided protection -- it allowed things to be said that might not be said for fear of retribution from the power brokers. Many people with noms became well known in their anonymity because they took consistent positions that they were willing to continue to maintain under the same identity. This allowed for a certain kind of "knowing" of those anonymous contributors -- a knowing that encouraged critical thinking because it provided a context and history to ongoing discussions. The current practice of the "one hit" johnnies who create new threads, make a comment or two, and then flee does little to do this. For one thing, the johnnies seldom say anything dangerous enough to need to hide behind a nom. In fact, the use of a nom allows at least some of them to avoid taking responsibility for anything they utter. I'd like to encourage folks who have something to say but no real reason to fear retribution to come out and use your real name. Or at the very least, create one identity and stick to it. And then, if something you say gets challenged, come back and respond with good reasoning. A number of folks on this board who have sometimes challenged the perceived ethos of the Board have done this ("Seeker" I'm thinking of you.) It is far more helpful -- I think those kinds of conversations have pushed our thinking further. At the very least they have challenged us to continue to look for civil and rational ways to respond to disagreements. And that strategy also serves to help preserve some level of responsibility within those who use the Board for what they utter. Any virtual community relies on some common agreements about the rules of civil discourse in order to preserve its unity. One of those is the trust that those who use a chat a chat board have good intentions. The signs of good intent are easy -- honest and reasonably continuous engagement in discussion and the establishment of a stable identity. People who violate those principles are not only having a good time at the expense of others, but they are an active threat to the trust necessary to keep this kind of discourse alive. I'm sorry if I am stepping on any toes -- it isn't my intent. Thanks to all.
Judd, Come down out of your Ivory Tower. Get in the trenches and realize that new people do post on this board.
I posted "the new coach" thread last week and had very little response. I have followed the board for a while and know that football and football interests have great influence at USM. I just know that Brett is probably ready to consider a new chapter in his life and this board would be a good place for discussion of this idea.
So, if Jeff is out....why not take a look at a person that could bring the USM folk's together? He does know football.
cheeze head wrote: Judd, Come down out of your Ivory Tower. Get in the trenches and realize that new people do post on this board.
I posted "the new coach" thread last week and had very little response. I have followed the board for a while and know that football and football interests have great influence at USM. I just know that Brett is probably ready to consider a new chapter in his life and this board would be a good place for discussion of this idea.
So, if Jeff is out....why not take a look at a person that could bring the USM folk's together? He does know football.
If I may, I respectfully disagree with your thoughts on Brett being a "coach" He may be a great QB and I respect his being an alumni and his abilities to play the game, I just don't think (at this point in his life) he got the qualifications to "coach" a Div I school.
LeftASAP wrote: I wonder why there is no discussion of this on EagleTalk. I hope this is not a new kind of troll.
There was a thread on EagleTalk yesterday that got deleted quickly. Given my past experiences with ET, I can conclude that there must have been some truth to the rumors posted in that thread. Names mentioned were Hatten, Jackie Sherrill, and one other.
LeftASAP wrote: I wonder why there is no discussion of this on EagleTalk. I hope this is not a new kind of troll.
There was a thread on EagleTalk yesterday that got deleted quickly. Given my past experiences with ET, I can conclude that there must have been some truth to the rumors posted in that thread. Names mentioned were Hatten, Jackie Sherrill, and one other.
I saw were BamaBurg posted that thread. It lasted all of 5 minutes and the choir boys have been very quite. Just personal opinion but I think Thames is going out and he is gonna go atleast one right thing before he leaves.
Disgusted Student -- give it a rest on this one. This is actually a meaningful thread in some ways. Athletics are (like it or not) important for the university. Also what SFT does with and through athletics is meaningful around here in many ways. Also do not get too high and mighty in speaking of the "local yokels" -- such arrogance is not becoming in one so young.
cheeze head wrote: Judd, Come down out of your Ivory Tower. Get in the trenches and realize that new people do post on this board. I posted "the new coach" thread last week and had very little response. I have followed the board for a while and know that football and football interests have great influence at USM. I just know that Brett is probably ready to consider a new chapter in his life and this board would be a good place for discussion of this idea. So, if Jeff is out....why not take a look at a person that could bring the USM folk's together? He does know football. If I may, I respectfully disagree with your thoughts on Brett being a "coach" He may be a great QB and I respect his being an alumni and his abilities to play the game, I just don't think (at this point in his life) he got the qualifications to "coach" a Div I school.
I agree. The University of Houston hired Clyde Drexler as their head basketball coach. He may have been a great pro player with a championship ring, but he was an awful college coach. That's not to say that Brett wouldn't make a good coach, but it certainly isn't automatic.