Arnold wrote:

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SACS probabtion, 4th tier status, and you want us to get excited about better parking??!!

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Boxcar William wrote:

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Energy man wrote:  administration is doing a good job adding new parking and,at the same time, making the campus more pedestrian friendly... And Mussolini made the trains run on time.

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Really you guys -- if the money comes from construction funds (an assumption, I'll admit) . . . and if we can assume that this was a plan that has been in the works for some time (Lassen said since 2001 which would preceed the current administration) and the administration is at least paying attention to some degree of continutity with past plans . . . .

It might be true that the contracts were set up in such a way so as to tip them to Warren -- not a pretty thing.

I realize that people can use these things to give credit to the administration that might not be fully due, and the administration itself might even draw more credit from it than is due . . ..

BUT . . . there is nothing inherently wrong with beautification. I certainly think the campus is looking cleaner and lovlier than ever. There isn't anything wrong with that . . . as an artist I have to say that aesthetics has some innate value in how it makes you feel about your environment.

And parking and traffic are certainly issues worth addressing.

I think we might be getting petty here --

We spend time in our building trying to keep it looking as neat as possible so when students come through they will be impressed . . . . I think a campus environment is a recruiting tool for both students and faculty. If it seems as though we are trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear then we have to continue as a community to somehow work some magic on the sow but I think bitching about something that in five years is probably going to look like a pretty good thing seems somehow to be connecting too many dots  . . . .

Personal opinion only.

Boxcar William wrote:

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Stephen, you completely miss the point. There's nothing wrong with making the trains run on time, or keeping them in spiffy shape for that matter. But making the trains run on time in no way makes up for treating the station agents shabbily.

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I think Stephen does get the point.  I agree with everything he said.  I read this board religiously and don't recall anyone suggesting that physical plant improvements conceived by and commenced under the Lucas and Fleming administrations in any way excuse or mitigate the abysmal conduct of the Thames administration.  The only problem I have with publicizing these projects is the attendant myth, propagated by the local media,  that Thames is responsible for them.  If anything he's riding the coat tails of his predecessors.

AE

my feet hurt wrote:

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Pedestrian campus?  Why are all those golf carts moving about campus?

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Grounds Keeper wrote:

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Cosmetic changes are not going to get you out of .the fourth tier.

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The latest paving has been handled by a group called Walters Paving, so we've spread out a bit. The trucks proudly display this different moniker. A shift in job-pointing?

I am really glad we are getting some close-to-campus-center parking spots paved - we really looked horrible with them done in gravel. That is a plus, from whatever budget its coming from.

The golf carts on campus are a horrible thing - the idiots driving many of them are going too fast, whipping around corners without looking, ... it's just stupid. We need to get a handle on this. One day, this semester, someone in his or her little golf cart is going to whip it around a building and run over someone, and then everyone from the golf cart driver to SFT will be in Law_Suit_Land.

It needs to stop, or at least be better controlled, now!  But, back to the original topic, paving is a great thing and it is going well, for all.

So, go ahead, Pave Me.