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Date: Aug 10, 2005

just heard about CoB?

Date: Aug 10, 2005

This is an odd time of year for business faculty to be interviewing...

Date: Aug 10, 2005

The Academy of Management Annual Conference is this week in Hawai'i. Since Doty is a management guy, this is exactly the time he would be interviewing.

Date: Aug 10, 2005

ulysses wrote:

I just heard that a CoB faculty on the Coast has a job offer, and needs to respond quickly. The person is trying to see if there's any interest here at USM about retaining them, but no one can get in touch with Doty. He seems to off on some kind of interview trip himself. That rocks!!

Take the offer and go. Doty has no interest in retaining anyone, including himself.

Date: Aug 10, 2005

ulysses wrote:

I just heard that a CoB faculty on the Coast has a job offer, and needs to respond quickly. The person is trying to see if there's any interest here at USM about retaining them, but no one can get in touch with Doty.

There's a simple solution. Tell that faculty member to ask the college secretary how Doty can be contacted.

Date: Aug 10, 2005

He'd be interviewing for next year -- Fall 06. I don't anyone would need to respond to an offer so urgently this week. The typical in business schools involves informal interviews at a conference, an invite for a campus interview in the mid-Fall, then formal offers in the late fall timeframe...

Date: Aug 10, 2005

One call, that's all wrote:

ulysses wrote: I just heard that a CoB faculty on the Coast has a job offer, and needs to respond quickly. The person is trying to see if there's any interest here at USM about retaining them, but no one can get in touch with Doty. There's a simple solution. Tell that faculty member to ask the college secretary how Doty can be contacted.

I think the point is that "no one can get in touch with Doty." I believe the college secretary is included in the relevant population of "no one."

Date: Aug 10, 2005

AOM'er wrote:

He'd be interviewing for next year -- Fall 06. I don't anyone would need to respond to an offer so urgently this week. The typical in business schools involves informal interviews at a conference, an invite for a campus interview in the mid-Fall, then formal offers in the late fall timeframe...

Most of this is simply untrue. While most business disciplines begin their interview process in the early fall and wrap it up in the spring, there is a second market that starts in late spring and finishes in late summer. For instance, if University X loses a faculty member with little or no notice at the close of the spring semester, then University X goes into the second market to replace that position before fall semester begins. Most of the time University X can probably get permission to hire, etc., especially if the position is critical. University X just wants to get the slot filled before it has to cancel classes.

Unfortunately for the COB, Doty would be interviewing for Fall 2006 jobs. I wonder if he'll trade that tenure for a way out of Hattiesburg.

Date: Aug 10, 2005

Our chain is being yanked again folks. Disregard any thread that begins with a breathless "I've just heard . . ." preamble. Especially when the nom is yet another "new" contributor to the board. This is getting old . . . .

We've got a million of these cluttering our cyber bulletin board and they do nothing but stir up trouble.

Date: Aug 10, 2005

and why are they always about the COB?

Date: Aug 10, 2005

LVN wrote:

and why are they alway about the COB?

They are not always about the COB. COAL and COEP have had their fair share. Stephen Judd is right. They do tend to stir up trouble.

Date: Aug 10, 2005

LVN wrote:

and why are they always about the COB?

The threads pertaining to the CoB do seem to attract more replies and views than the majority of the other topics on this board. In the current campus soap opera, "As the Wurl' Turns," the CoB does have its share of interesting characters. Just an observation.

Date: Aug 11, 2005

FACT 1: Doty has been at the Academy of Management Meetings in Hawaii.

FACT 2: Management profs interview for jobs at the Academy of Management Meetings.

FACT 3: Doty sent out a "shotgun" job search strategy last spring, which landed him on the short lists at SE Louisiana, UTEP, North Florida, and North Texas, among others. He got none of those job offers.

FACT 4: There is a "Doty Moving Fund" being created in the COB. Profs donate spare change to pay for a U-Haul.

Date: Aug 11, 2005

Just the Facts, Ma'am wrote:

Doty sent out a "shotgun" job search strategy last spring, which landed him on the short lists at SE Louisiana, UTEP, North Florida, and North Texas, among others. He got none of those job offers.

Someone should offer to hook Doty up with Tim Hudson. I'm sure the UHV prez could find him a good job over thar in Texas, from whence he came. Their shared disdain for Shelboo wouldn't exactly hurt Doty's chances for a UHV position.

Date: Aug 11, 2005

Simply Untrue wrote:

AOM'er wrote: He'd be interviewing for next year -- Fall 06. I don't anyone would need to respond to an offer so urgently this week. The typical in business schools involves informal interviews at a conference, an invite for a campus interview in the mid-Fall, then formal offers in the late fall timeframe... Most of this is simply untrue. While most business disciplines begin their interview process in the early fall and wrap it up in the spring, there is a second market that starts in late spring and finishes in late summer. For instance, if University X loses a faculty member with little or no notice at the close of the spring semester, then University X goes into the second market to replace that position before fall semester begins. Most of the time University X can probably get permission to hire, etc., especially if the position is critical. University X just wants to get the slot filled before it has to cancel classes. Unfortunately for the COB, Doty would be interviewing for Fall 2006 jobs. I wonder if he'll trade that tenure for a way out of Hattiesburg.

No, it is accurate..the Academy of Management does have a big placement service at its annual meeting in August. Think of it as initial screening...those who make the cut will be invited to campus interviews later in the fall

Date: Aug 11, 2005

Some of the timing of hiring is contingent upon the administration's providing permission to hire. At this x-rated university the administration often drags its feet so long that hiring does not happen until summer. This procedure does not often lead to getting the most desirable candidate.

As an example, the COB just made a hire this week, after waiting some months for permission to do so. Luckily this candidate is new on the market and not just one no one else wanted.

Date: Aug 11, 2005

Outside Observer wrote:

Simply Untrue wrote:
AOM'er wrote: He'd be interviewing for next year -- Fall 06. I don't anyone would need to respond to an offer so urgently this week. The typical in business schools involves informal interviews at a conference, an invite for a campus interview in the mid-Fall, then formal offers in the late fall timeframe... Most of this is simply untrue. While most business disciplines begin their interview process in the early fall and wrap it up in the spring, there is a second market that starts in late spring and finishes in late summer. For instance, if University X loses a faculty member with little or no notice at the close of the spring semester, then University X goes into the second market to replace that position before fall semester begins. Most of the time University X can probably get permission to hire, etc., especially if the position is critical. University X just wants to get the slot filled before it has to cancel classes. Unfortunately for the COB, Doty would be interviewing for Fall 2006 jobs. I wonder if he'll trade that tenure for a way out of Hattiesburg.
No, it is accurate..the Academy of Management does have a big placement service at its annual meeting in August. Think of it as initial screening...those who make the cut will be invited to campus interviews later in the fall

Please read more carefully. AOM'er wrote that there was no way that the unnamed coast faculty "would need to respond to an offer so urgently this week."

My response was that IF the coast faculty member was in the late market (from last year), that this could mean the difference in signing a USM contract or not.

No offense, OO, but I don't need a lecture of how the AOM process works. You need to read more carefully.

Date: Aug 11, 2005

the private sector market is a year-round affair. with business faculty, you can see some quits at odd times. the drain of these people out of academia is picking up as raises nationally are becoming smaller and more importantly as the quality of academic administration declines. if you are working for dilbert's boss at a degree mill, then a 9 to 5 private sector job at twice the salary doesn't seem like so much of a drag.

Date: Aug 12, 2005

nonacademic wrote:

the private sector market is a year-round affair. with business faculty, you can see some quits at odd times. the drain of these people out of academia is picking up as raises nationally are becoming smaller and more importantly as the quality of academic administration declines. if you are working for dilbert's boss at a degree mill, then a 9 to 5 private sector job at twice the salary doesn't seem like so much of a drag.

Doty = Topper!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!