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Invictus

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Greedy wrote:

The MIDAS program seems to condone the use of state property for what was formerly private consulting. It seems to be a convenient way to circumvent the university consulting policies that prohibit the use of university resources for private gain. It also seems to circumvent the policy of limiting consulting to one day per week. That's the way I see it. Am I wrong? I'm open to correction.



The entire Shelby Thames "Research" Model (note the quotes) is based on using state property for personal gain. Witness MURA, a piece of legislation that essentially enables what ought to be private sector companies (e.g., Southern Diversified) to rent lab space for pennies on the dollar & do extramural work while receiving a state salary for those hours. Yeah, "everybody does it," but like somebody's Momma (not Gracie's, most likely) once said, "Just 'cause ever'body's doin' it don't make it right."

There are plenty of old timers in CoST (or retired therefrom) who will tell you exactly how "highly respected" Shelby is as a researcher. What they respect is his ability to get paid mega-bucks for showing up. It's more about politics & pork than test tubes & Erlenmeyer flasks.

Has anybody prepared some nice graphics showing the actual "growth" of research funding at USM over, say, the past 10 years? It might be interesting to see...

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Invictus wrote:





enables what ought to be private sector companies (e.g., Southern Diversified) to rent lab space for pennies on the dollar & do extramural work while receiving a state salary for those hours.


What do you call it when the entire university is required to use Southern Pride paint (SFT's paint).  I've heard from several who are forced to use it that it is inferior:  doesn't stick to the wall very well. 


 



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stephen judd

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Invictus wrote: I don't think that's the point, Proctor. I think the point is that NSF doesn't permit MIDAS type rewards. I'm not sure about that, so RC or someone more knowledgeable about NSF regs will have to clarify, but that's the impression I got from things said up-thread from here. My impression about USM faculty's objections to MIDAS has always been that it's an inherently biased & inequitable system. A person who happens to work in a discipline where there is ready grant money can get a bonus award for getting grants. I do have enough background to know that a run-of-the-mill science professor can get grants that are utterly unavailable to the very best humanities professor. Personally, I think the money that's being given away for MIDAS might be better used as seed money to help those in harder-to-fund research areas develop better proposals & get their research projects off the ground. You've made my point here. Your gripe is that it's "biased." I could argue that the NFL, NBA, MLB, PGA, etc., are biased against people with different skill sets than an athletic one. Again, your srgument boils down to "sour grapes" because you're not in a grant-friendly discipline. Instead of being happy for those who benefit, you complain. Reminds me of a child who wants another child's better toy and throws a fit until all toys get taken away. Then, the jealous child is happy because nobody has more than he does.


 


I'm very appreciative of your name choice -- Proctor was a man who was both within the community and yet on the outside as well -- the perfect skeptic in other words. Incidently if you have ever been to Salem there is an excellent and very moving memorial to the victims of the witchcraft frenzy.


I can't speak for anyone else but my own concern about the Midas Program is my suspicion that it another way to validate disciplines (and faculty members) who are both enteprenaurial and are successful at that. My concern is without a fairly well-articulated philosophy that speaks fairly clearly and institutes policies that also show support for those scholars working in disciplines that are less able to raise grant money, messages are sent to students and to faculty about what kind of research is valued -- thereby potentially skewing the mission of the university towards enteprenurialism as THE value. I don;t think there is a conspiracy here but I do think there is a lack of sensitivity and awareness. Most importantly, the context in which we perform does not create equal validation (it does not have to be money but it must then be in pretty active rhetoric and recognition) for intellectual activity leading to outcomes that may carry significance though may not generate income for the university.


So I think that is the context here -- not the denigration of the work of those who may get the MIDAS awards, but deep concern that those rewards are in themselves a subtle message about what is valued in the absence of an equally strong message about the importance non-revenue generating research and how that contributes to the intellectual life of the university, which is, after all, the principle activity of the university.



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stephen judd

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In my previous reply I did not wish this phrase:

"I don't think there is a conspiracy here but I do think there is a lack of sensitivity and awareness"

to be contstrued to apply to you. I intend it to apply to the administration, but did not make that clear.


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John Proctor

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SJ,

I am sympathetic to the concerns you express here. However, I am still concerned that such motives are confined to a small portion of the MIDAS dissenters. I have heard too many "It's not fair" statements and too few of your type of statements.

Again, as a faculty member with few grant opportunities, I am pleased when any faculty member (whose last name isn't Thames) gets something positive out of this administration. It's a small victory to me when a decent person games this system and comes out on top.

I agree that traditional research needs to be rewarded. My question remains: if we're not going to reward traditional research in the short term, should we also not reward funded research just so everything's "even-Steven"? Pardon the pun.

JP

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