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Date: Jul 5, 2005

RE: Doty around still

Date: Jul 5, 2005

Faculty can recommend that he not be dean. Start a petition! He can go back to faculty and they can pick an interim dean while a search is conducted for a real dean.

Date: Jul 5, 2005

Recommend wrote:

Faculty can recommend that he not be dean. Start a petition! He can go back to faculty and they can pick an interim dean while a search is conducted for a real dean.

A real dean, under SFT? That's too funny, I hope you were joking. If not . . .

Date: Jul 6, 2005

TS Cindy wrote:

Voice in the Darkness wrote:
He has never taught an undergraduate class at USM.
Voice, I thought he taught a 300-level strategy course. Are you sure your info is correct?

According to the USM Undergraduate Bulletin, there is no such thing at USM as a 300-level strategy course.

One of Doty's oft-repeated boasts is that he taught strategy to sophomores at Syracuse. FYI, strategy is a capstone course at every major university in the nation with the exception of (of course) Syracuse.

Doty is much like the annoying girl from the American Pie movies that my kids love so much. Every story he tells starts with "This one time...at Syracuse...."

Date: Jul 6, 2005

In answering an earlier post, the new chairs were "appointed" by Doty without complete, or in one case much, consult. You know things are bad when faculty retain old legal counsel immediately after a new chair's name is released to the public.

You may remember that shortly after arriving at USM, Texas Christian flirted some with the possibility of hiring HD away. Those possibilities (for him) are a distant memory now. The latest news on that front is that he didn't make the first cut at SeLU over in Hammond. Times have changed.

Date: Jul 6, 2005

The Big Show wrote:

In answering an earlier post, the new chairs were "appointed" by Doty without complete, or in one case much, consult. You know things are bad when faculty retain old legal counsel immediately after a new chair's name is released to the public. You may remember that shortly after arriving at USM, Texas Christian flirted some with the possibility of hiring HD away. Those possibilities (for him) are a distant memory now. The latest news on that front is that he didn't make the first cut at SeLU over in Hammond. Times have changed.

The last I heard from you guys on the board about chairs is that one of the new chairs arranged for the position in a trade (a research award or publication or something, it is all a blur now).

Date: Jul 6, 2005

I would think that most faculty members across the board are less marketable than they would have been three years ago, even if their credentials are stronger.

Date: Jul 6, 2005

police report wrote:

Recommend wrote: Faculty can recommend that he not be dean. Start a petition! He can go back to faculty and they can pick an interim dean while a search is conducted for a real dean. A real dean, under SFT? That's too funny, I hope you were joking. If not . . .

And which of us courageous souls are going to sign the petition with our real names? hd is bad enough without giving him my name as a target. We've all seen what he's done to people who don't fall in line.

Date: Jul 6, 2005

Then somehow get the message to the right people. If he doesn't have CoB faculty support, he will be sent back to the ranks.

Date: Jul 6, 2005

Response to Wimpy wrote:

Then somehow get the message to the right people. If he doesn't have CoB faculty support, he will be sent back to the ranks.

RtW,

That should read "If he doesn't have CoB faculty support, he will be sent to the ranks" since he has never been on the regular faculty at USM. I think somebody said earlier that he hasn't taught even one undergraduate course at USM and has taught only one grad course (Econ Dev) in two years.

Date: Jul 6, 2005

Response to Wimpy wrote:

Then somehow get the message to the right people. If he doesn't have CoB faculty support, he will be sent back to the ranks.

What makes you think that faculty support makes any difference. I know of an instance, not at USM, where the faculty voted unanimously for lack of confidence in their b school dean...the administration ignored it...that dean was there for years.

Date: Jul 6, 2005

If both the Fac Sen and a large portion of the faculty previously voted no confidence in SFT and he's still around, what makes you think a similar vote in the COB would have a different effect?

Date: Jul 11, 2005

Tactless wrote:

CoB Tactician wrote: Would anyone consider an MBA from USM more valuable than one from MSU?

A more fundamental question is why does anybody choose USM over UM and MSU for any degree. With the exception of a few programs, the answer is they know it will be easier.

Tactless that is not the only reason students attend USM although I would agree that some do. I came to USM before the Thames disasters began. By the time we were on probation I was in my last semester. What exactly should I (or others in my postition) have done? Some of us simply can't afford to up and leave when s*** hits the fan. Isn't this what the some of the faculty have also given as their reason for not leaving? Some of them have a spouse with a career here or kids in school or some other reason.

I'm not satisfied with the situation here but please don't think I'm here because "it's easier." If all I really wanted something easier, I wouldn't have even enrolled in graduate school much less finished my undergraduate degree. I'm trying to do the best I can for myself with what resources I have access to right now.

Your understanding is refreshing.

Date: Jul 11, 2005

Grad Student wrote:

Tactless wrote: CoB Tactician wrote: Would anyone consider an MBA from USM more valuable than one from MSU? A more fundamental question is why does anybody choose USM over UM and MSU for any degree. With the exception of a few programs, the answer is they know it will be easier. Tactless that is not the only reason students attend USM although I would agree that some do. I came to USM before the Thames disasters began. By the time we were on probation I was in my last semester. What exactly should I (or others in my postition) have done? Some of us simply can't afford to up and leave when s*** hits the fan. Isn't this what the some of the faculty have also given as their reason for not leaving? Some of them have a spouse with a career here or kids in school or some other reason. I'm not satisfied with the situation here but please don't think I'm here because "it's easier." If all I really wanted something easier, I wouldn't have even enrolled in graduate school much less finished my undergraduate degree. I'm trying to do the best I can for myself with what resources I have access to right now. Your understanding is refreshing.

Finish your degree and move on...in a few years, the Gnome Era will be but a dim memory for most people. USM will eventually be reaccredited and your degree will be fine.