Costs of running a university - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Jun 28, 2005

Costs of running a university

Date: Jun 28, 2005

I'll begin. I don't know how much USM had to pay for instructors to pick up the courses Gary and Frank were teaching when they were banned from their classes, but those costs should be included.

Date: Jun 29, 2005

Cost "savings" from the infamous Reorganization, reported to be $1.8 million, spent twice adjusted for the Gunther Report...about $2.5 million?

Maybe that's just being facetious, so how about this:

In addition to the much-discussed and legitimate loss of institutional memory, there is the real financial cost of turning over 11 deans, a couple provosts, several VPs, and hundreds of faculty and staff in just three years. Turnover is expensive in any organization; turnover costs have beein astronomical under Shelby Thames.

How much does it cost to correct the mistakes of reorganization? You know, like the reorganization of the reorganization? The elimination of positions and then the scramble to filll them when it's discovered that the positions were necessary after all? This reminds me, why has there been no discussion of the "newly created" associate provost position on the coast? Someone just figured out we need an academic there after all?

Great thread GH, let's work it.

Date: Jun 29, 2005

Don't forget the costs of SACs. Does anyone know the cost of the hiring the consultant?

Are there ANY other associated costs related to SACs?

Date: Jun 29, 2005

Another cost that has not been mentioned in this thread is the large turnover in department chairs/directors. Although it is difficult to quantify because of the mergers of some depts, I would say between 1/3 and 1/2 of chairs/directors have turned over in the last few years.

Date: Jun 29, 2005

Don't the forget the dollars in my wallet which could have landed in USM's wallet. But not anymore.

Date: Jun 29, 2005

Phillanthrophile wrote:

Don't the forget the dollars in my wallet which could have landed in USM's wallet. But not anymore.

When USM's current and future losses are added up, the cost is staggering.

Date: Jun 29, 2005

Another cost that needs to be factored in is that of defraying the cost of recruiting replacement faculty for the many who have left. On the other hand, maybe the Hattiesburg bidness community will provide those recruiting expenses at no cost to the taxpayer.

Date: Jun 29, 2005

Pro Bono wrote:

defraying the cost of recruiting replacement faculty for the many who have left.

Recruiting costs shouldn't cost much. Instead transporation by air at standard fares and dining at the Purple Parrot, let them take Greyhound and dine at Krystal. See us for our USM special.

Date: Jun 29, 2005

Speaking of recruiting, during the past 13 hours there have been two more additions to the 2004-2005 stickythread at the top of the message board. I sometimes forget to examine those threads for new postings . . . . .

: kron

Date: 13 hr, 19 min. ago
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add Ann Smith, Undergrad Programs in the CoB.

: :(

Date: 3 hr, 55 min. ago
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RE: 2004-05 Departures Update

Eric Smith, Asst. Prof., USMGC English Dept. is also leaving.

Date: Jun 29, 2005

Congrats to Ann, who at least is leaving for a very happy reason. Are those bells I hear??