should I send the box? - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Jun 26, 2005

should I send the box?

Date: Jun 26, 2005

Why are you deciding what to do based on what someone else has decided to do? (IF that post was even legitimate, which I highly doubt.) Didn't your mother ever say, "I don't care what everybody else is doing, etc.??"

You have to do what YOUR individual conscience tells you is right. You need to read the poem from which Invictus takes his name.

Date: Jun 26, 2005

Your first obligation is to integrity and the truth. If you have evidence of lying, fraud, or whatever, you must contact the appropriate agency. Drop the materials in the mail.

Date: Jun 26, 2005

The Cowardly Lion always had nerve - eve if he didn't initially recognize it. We've got a group effort going on. That box is important and needs to get into the hands of those who CAN administer justice.

Date: Jun 26, 2005

Need postage?

Date: Jun 26, 2005

You need to read Joseph Campbells A Hero's Adventure and then mail the material.

Date: Jun 26, 2005

whistleblower wrote:

I have put together a bunch of documents that show that fraudulent materials are being shown by some USM administrators to an important accrediting agency. I was about to send them off to that agency this week when I saw the post by the unknown professor who is leaving without notifying his chair of the decision. The responses to that by this board were mixed. What should I do with this small box of materials? Send if off?

Assuming that this post is legit (always a big assumption), I don't see a parallel between your case and the case of the professor in the other thread. That other professor was planning to do something which (it could be argued) was irresponsible; you apparently have the capacity to expose (and thus combat) irresponsibility. For what it's worth, I say mail immediately. If you have the information you claim to have, you could rapidly hasten the return of Shelby to his lab. I would sorely like to believe that you possess the documentation you claim to possess.

Date: Jun 26, 2005

Whistleblower -

Considering your description of the contents of the box, you might want to consider consulting a responsible attorney before making your decision. If it were me I'd get one with no vested interest in USM. If the contents are as you describe, you may eventually be dealing with some not-so-nice people.

Date: Jun 26, 2005

Question for all:

If you were the original poster, would you BREATHE this information much less post it to this board?

Date: Jun 26, 2005

LVN wrote:

Question for all: If you were the original poster, would you BREATHE this information much less post it to this board?

As usual, LVN is her wise self. Dangit.

Date: Jun 26, 2005

Thank you, USMS. That person on the Killen thread seems to be measuring me for a white sheet.

Date: Jun 26, 2005

LVN wrote:

Thank you, USMS. That person on the Killen thread seems to be measuring me for a white sheet.

Never you mind, LVN; the devil made him do it. Specifically, it was Irving, the guy in the cell next to mine down here.

Date: Jun 27, 2005

One call, that's all wrote:

Whistleblower -
Considering your description of the contents of the box, you might want to consider consulting a responsible attorney before making your decision. If it were me I'd get one with no vested interest in USM. If the contents are as you describe, you may eventually be dealing with some not-so-nice people.

Actually, I don't believe "whistleblower" described the contents of the box. What one person believes proves something is "fraudulent" is often inconsequential to the person who actually has to decide if it is fraudulent.

"I been to Babylon, I gotta confess
I can still hear that voice crying in the wilderness
What looks large from a distance, close up is never that big"

- "Someone's Got a Hold on My Heart" (1983)

Date: Jun 27, 2005

Whistleblower: have you returned from the Post Office?

Date: Jun 27, 2005

I have faith in those who will need to distinguish between saboteurs and whistleblowers.

Date: Jun 27, 2005

whistleblower wrote:

I have put together a bunch of documents that show that fraudulent materials are being shown by some USM administrators to an important accrediting agency. I was about to send them off to that agency this week when I saw the post by the unknown professor who is leaving without notifying his chair of the decision. The responses to that by this board were mixed.
What should I do with this small box of materials? Send if off?

What about copies to the Academic Council? Or Faculty Senate? Or AAUP?