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into the night prof

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I just finished packing up my office tonight.  Next week, I move off to my new job.  I have told no one at USM of my decision to leave (at least no one who will speak of it).  My chair and my dean will find out only when school begins in August.  My absence until then will go unnoticed, as I am ofen away during July and (the first part of) August.


To those of you who remain behind, good luck and Godspeed.



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Just curious

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into the night prof wrote:


I just finished packing up my office tonight.  Next week, I move off to my new job.  I have told no one at USM of my decision to leave (at least no one who will speak of it).  My chair and my dean will find out only when school begins in August.  My absence until then will go unnoticed, as I am ofen away during July and (the first part of) August. To those of you who remain behind, good luck and Godspeed.

What will happen to the students who have enrolled in your courses?

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Little old lady

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I hope your reasons for doing this are extremely good. Otherwise it seems a cowardly thing to do. The administration is not hurt. Your colleagues, your department secretary, and your students are the ones hurt.

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Of course, this could be somebody's idea of a sick joke. Make a bunch of chairs run around and check for empty offices. Cause an uproar on the board. We do have people who like to play games like this.
Now that you've posted, of course, it wouldn't be an August surprize, now would it? No, if you wanted an August surprize, you wouldn't have said anything.

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farewell

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i've never been good with good byes either. slip quietly out the back door and on to the next venture.

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What goes around...

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into the night prof wrote:


I just finished packing up my office tonight.  Next week, I move off to my new job.  I have told no one at USM of my decision to leave (at least no one who will speak of it).  My chair and my dean will find out only when school begins in August.  My absence until then will go unnoticed, as I am ofen away during July and (the first part of) August. To those of you who remain behind, good luck and Godspeed.

How unprofessional!  Like other posters noted below, your attempt to inflict a blow is misdirected.  If this is real (always a big IF given so many attempts to spread disinformation and inflame the public against the faculty by interlopers on this board), it is an action that would be disavowed by any and all of the legitimate faculty governance bodies.  Heck, it probably violates AAUP principles!  More importantly, for you, is that academia is a relatively small and closed community.  Word of this will follow you and come back to bite you in the behind later in your career. 

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Old prof

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Even though this administration acts unprofessionaly and unethically, that is no reason for you to do so. I agree. This will come back to you.

P.S. I'm not sure this isn't a set-up.

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Last Sad Prof

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I learned this week of others who have made a decision last week to leave summer.  They were considering it for some time, but hadn't made a decision.  Next week the new fiscal year begins and they were faced with a decision, which they made a day ago.  Their chair was informed a couple of days ago.  I was surprised to lean that some don't even have other jobs in hand at the time of departure.  Their mental and physical health and their creativity were suffering under the conditions at USM for the past 3 years.


I believe some these are the people that Faculty Senate President Beckett was referring to when he informed the president's cabinet that the figures they were publishing on 2005 departures were not correct.  He told them he knew of faculty leaving that they didn't know about.


 



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lo

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LVN,


It will still be a surprise.  He/she noted that his/her absence until classes begins is explainable.  Heck, most faculty aren't around July and August, so this could be one of hundreds.


Just curious and others,


The students will still "get their tickets punched," just by someone else now.  USM="tickets punched U" now.  This won't really add to that anymore.  The damage is done.


I have have mixed feelings about what this prof is doing (as you can tell).  SFT has done damage that will be around the whole community now for decades.



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Just curious

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Assuming that the initial post is legit (a big IF), this professor's departure will be "spun" by Shelby and Co. in a way that will reflect negatively on all the poster's colleagues at USM.  The line will be this: "Look at how those irresponsible faculty behave.  They care nothing about their students, only about themselves."  Among the people most ready to buy this line will be this professor's students and their families and friends.  Who could blame them for interpreting his conduct in this way?


I hadn't thought about how such an act will follow the professor later in his career, but that point seems quite legitimate.


It isn't too late for the poster to inform the appropriate people that he will not be back so that they can make the appropriate arrangements.  He might also want to write a letter to the HA informing the good citizens of Hattiesburg why he is leaving.  Doing both of these things would be the responsible things to do.



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To The East Side

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Certainly the remaining colleagues are hurt most, potentially followed by the students. This idea is gaining more and more acceptance, probably under the "made bad, not born bad" approach. If used by Domers, all we can say is s/he is no longer here or part of "us".

When apathy settles in, this is a natural by-product. This is merely another side of the ugliness we live in daily.


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BusinessnWoman

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Just curious wrote:


The line will be this: "Look at how those irresponsible faculty behave.  They care nothing about their students, only about themselves."  Among the people most ready to buy this line will be this professor's students and their families and friends.  Who could blame them for interpreting his conduct in this way?


Wait a minute here!  What is done in the business world?  Isn't it a two-week notice?  If the IHL had a logical policy all of this could be avoided.  They require tenured faculty to sign a contract before each year.  What happens is a prof doesn't like the salary in the new contract and refuses to sign?  Until the prof signs the contract they haven’t agreed to work the following year unless they give their word to the chair in some way.  The way the IHL runs things, tenure only means the IHL must offer the prof a contract.


Can you imagine a business owner saying, "Alice, you are irresponsible to give me your two-week notice.  You care nothing for our customers." ?


Remember Noel Polk didn't resign until something like September last year, but I believe the chair was give notice earlier.  The IHL Board made this stupid system and must suffer the consequences for how it operates.


 


 



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Just Curious

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Business Woman,


Your post helps us make the important point that faculty are not employees in the usual sense; they are members of a community with responsibilities to their students, colleagues, and profession.  Their financial connection to the university is (or should be) less important than their membership in this community.  You are right, though, that people who want to see a university as merely a business cannot complain when faculty members begin to take them seriously and behave the way normal "employees" would.  Thanks for helping to make this point. 



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Luke

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into the night prof wrote:


I just finished packing up my office tonight.  Next week, I move off to my new job.  I have told no one at USM of my decision to leave (at least no one who will speak of it).  My chair and my dean will find out only when school begins in August.  My absence until then will go unnoticed, as I am ofen away during July and (the first part of) August. To those of you who remain behind, good luck and Godspeed.

May the Force be with you.

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Geraldo

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I am doing the same.  You want it like this USM and Hattiesburg, you got it. 

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necromancer

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Personally, I have a colleague that is doing the same thing.  This person is torn over their decision.  On the one hand, this behavior is unprofessional.  However, the administrators we work for are such jerks that this person fears retribution.  This person will turn in their letter after the second summer session is so well along that they cannot be removed from the class.  In a "normal" university this person would have resigned in May.  However, they need the summer money for transition costs and their teaching this summer is not costing any of the rest of us summer employment.  This persons position will probably be permanently "lost" or replaced by an adjunct.  The students will at least get quality instruction this summer.  They will lose in the long run but in this case when this person resigns won't affect that much.


Some are resigning late purely out of anger.  I disagree with this sort of behavior for the reasons posted above.  However, others are resigning late out of financial need coupled with fear of behavior that goes beyond unprofessional. 


God help us all for having to work in a place where outgoing workers have to wrestle with these choices. 



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Leah

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Luke wrote:


May the Force be with you.

An imposter, as if anyone cares anymore.

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spiccoli

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into the night prof wrote:


I just finished packing up my office tonight.  Next week, I move off to my new job.  I have told no one at USM of my decision to leave (at least no one who will speak of it).  My chair and my dean will find out only when school begins in August.  My absence until then will go unnoticed, as I am ofen away during July and (the first part of) August. To those of you who remain behind, good luck and Godspeed.

I say go for it, dude!  Don't let these pansies get you down.

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Just curious

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necromancer wrote:


Personally, I have a colleague that is doing the same thing.  This person is torn over their decision.  On the one hand, this behavior is unprofessional.  However, the administrators we work for are such jerks that this person fears retribution.  This person will turn in their letter after the second summer session is so well along that they cannot be removed from the class.  In a "normal" university this person would have resigned in May.  However, they need the summer money for transition costs and their teaching this summer is not costing any of the rest of us summer employment.  This persons position will probably be permanently "lost" or replaced by an adjunct.  The students will at least get quality instruction this summer.  They will lose in the long run but in this case when this person resigns won't affect that much. Some are resigning late purely out of anger.  I disagree with this sort of behavior for the reasons posted above.  However, others are resigning late out of financial need coupled with fear of behavior that goes beyond unprofessional.  God help us all for having to work in a place where outgoing workers have to wrestle with these choices. 

Thanks for providing some helpful additional perspectives on all this.  I hadn't thought of the issues you've mentioned.

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USM Alumni

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I agree with you, 100%. Just because you disagree with the administration doesn't mean you should punish your fellow faculty and students. Very unprofessional. Give notice and be on your way. Good luck!


Just curious wrote:

Assuming that the initial post is legit (a big IF), this professor's departure will be "spun" by Shelby and Co. in a way that will reflect negatively on all the poster's colleagues at USM.  The line will be this: "Look at how those irresponsible faculty behave.  They care nothing about their students, only about themselves."  Among the people most ready to buy this line will be this professor's students and their families and friends.  Who could blame them for interpreting his conduct in this way?
I hadn't thought about how such an act will follow the professor later in his career, but that point seems quite legitimate.
It isn't too late for the poster to inform the appropriate people that he will not be back so that they can make the appropriate arrangements.  He might also want to write a letter to the HA informing the good citizens of Hattiesburg why he is leaving.  Doing both of these things would be the responsible things to do.




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What if the original poster doesn't have a job yet? Should he/she alert the administration to the fact that he/she is leaving so that it can ruin his/her chances of getting a job? Should he/she give notice early so that the administration can cut his/her benefits that he/she has paid for already? So that he/she can be locked out or have his/her computer seized?

Supporters of SFT want faculty to be employees. I have heard mention of the "two week" rule in business. Well, here's the fact: in business if you give a two-week notice, your boss is most likely going to say "Just pack it up and go on right now." Who wants a lame duck employee (besides the IHL)?

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Agreed that some people are in vulnerable positions and can't tell that they're leaving. However, the original poster said they already had a new job.
This is just so sickeningly sad.

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To The East Side

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Do not assume how many classes or how many students you are teaching this fall until there is a head count the first (or second) week of classes.



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They do their own August Surprises too

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Point-Counterpoint wrote:


What if the original poster doesn't have a job yet? Should he/she alert the administration to the fact that he/she is leaving so that it can ruin his/her chances of getting a job? Should he/she give notice early so that the administration can cut his/her benefits that he/she has paid for already? So that he/she can be locked out or have his/her computer seized? Supporters of SFT want faculty to be employees. I have heard mention of the "two week" rule in business. Well, here's the fact: in business if you give a two-week notice, your boss is most likely going to say "Just pack it up and go on right now." Who wants a lame duck employee (besides the IHL)?

Imagine the people who were on tenure track, and with no warning from the administration or their deans or the dept chairs, came back in August to discover that SFT had not extended a contract, yet he assumed that they would begin teaching without a contract. Keep in mind that everyone else in the depts. had contracts.  I know of one (who is suing) who tried to contact SFT for four weeks after that. He sent this person a certified letter on Aug. 30 telling this person that he was terminating this person as of May. When the end of Sept. came around this person lost insurance, retirement benefits, and a job.  Am I making this up? No, it's the truth, and if I can convince this one person to hand over the case numbers - you can look them up and read them yourself.

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Victim

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They do their own August Surprises too wrote:
Imagine the people who were on tenure track, and with no warning from the administration or their deans or the dept chairs, came back in August to discover that SFT had not extended a contract, yet he assumed that they would begin teaching without a contract. Keep in mind that everyone else in the depts. had contracts.  I know of one (who is suing) who tried to contact SFT for four weeks after that. He sent this person a certified letter on Aug. 30 telling this person that he was terminating this person as of May. When the end of Sept. came around this person lost insurance, retirement benefits, and a job.  Am I making this up? No, it's the truth, and if I can convince this one person to hand over the case numbers - you can look them up and read them yourself.

I don't doubt anything you've said, TDTOASTW, not even for a minute.

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spiccoli

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Original poster, I suspect your story is like what these last 2 posters speak about.  Good luck to you, and don't let the other wimps here get you down.  What you're doing is right.

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Mr. Hand

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Gnarly dude, don't listen to these other tools.  You owe nothing to anyone at this place.

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Just curious

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Spiccoli and Mr. Hand: Do you guys surf together?

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