....according to the registrars webpage the ratio of in-state/out of state students at Southern Miss is 80/20. According to the registrars statistics for north carolina at chapel hill the same ratio is 78/22.
just wondering,
Chapel Hill, and other "Public Ivy's" such as Michigan or Virginia, is probably not a good comparison. They severly restrict the number of out-of-state admissions and sometimes require as high of an ACT of 30 for non- resident admissions. If you have access to the catalogs of less demanding schools you might do a in-state/out-of state comparision between USM and a "Public Kudzu" that requires only a high school diploma and a checkbook.
One more time: What's wrong with being a good regional school when your alternative is to be a half-ass national school? I think management people call this "retrenching".
One more time: What's wrong with being a good regional school when your alternative is to be a half-ass national school? I think management people call this "retrenching".
There is nothing wrong with being a good regional school. But a good regional school should not be deprived of the opportunity to grow into a good national school. Whether or not that happens depends on each individual department. The problem is that it is difficult for an individual department to soar beyond the overall expectations of the university.
Why does a good regional school need to become something else? Mississippi needs a good regional school. Why can't USM be that school? Why must USM grow into something that is beyond the need of its constituency? Mississippi already has two good "national" universities, but it has no good regional universities.
I'm wondering how much longer the people of Mississippi will allow a university faculty to dictate what the mission of one of its universities is.
I'm not trolling here, but I fail to understand the need to get bigger for getting bigger's sake. It seems to me that there is some evidence to suggest that the way to go (if you're not a flagship or #2 land grant) is to provide quality education in a broad undergraduate curriculum and a very narrow set of graduate programs.
I'm not trolling here, but I fail to understand the need to get bigger for getting bigger's sake.
Nobody (except trolls themselves) will argue that one with you, Again and again and again. I have never seen a post that the enrollment number is a true bragging right. It's the morons surrounding and in the Dome that deem that important. Quality has always been emphasized on this site as preferable to quantity.
On another note, Saw Cinderella Man with my daughter tonight. She couldn't believe how sleazy Jethro Bodine's real father was portrayed as being back in the 30's. Great movie all the same.
On another note, Saw Cinderella Man with my daughter tonight. She couldn't believe how sleazy Jethro Bodine's real father was portrayed as being back in the 30's. Great movie all the same.
FWIW, couldn't agree more about the movie. It's a shame, though, that the leading man doesn't behave in real life as virtuously as the character he played. I guess that's what makes him a good actor . . . .
You know, I was in the grocery store the other day, and a woman returned a product that promised to get the stains our of her husband's work clothes because it didn't work. The manager told her that the product's headquarters' policy was that there would be no refunds on "used" products and that there was nothing he could do about it. She got real mad, slammed the box down on the counter, and started cussin' up a storm. The guy looked shocked. The woman stormed out, knocking over a display on her way out.
You see, the policy was stupid. The product claimed to remove stains and it had failed in that claim. The woman should have been entitled to a refund, regardless of the condition of the product. The policy was wrong, but there was nothing the manager could do. However, the woman was wrong as well. Her loss of temper and behavior was inexcusable, caused the manager quite a bit of embarassment, and cost the store the value of the broken display. So, the policy was wrong and the woman was wrong, BUT IT NEVER MADE IT TO TV, NOT EVEN WDAM! You know why? Because she's not famous.
Mississippi already has two good "national" universities, but it has no good regional universities.
And just where are those two "national" Mississippi universities located? What criteria do they meet that makes them "national?" Not the USNews ratings of their graduate programs or the USNews tier ratings. Alumni opinions and football wins don't define a university as national. Somebody used the term "Ole Myth" on this board. Think about it. Ole Miss is national only in the eyes of their alumni and the sportscasters during winning seasons.
I belong to a number of national organizations that are related to my field of study. When I first started attending the national meetings of these organizations, numerous people would ask me "USM...is that Ole Miss or Mississippi State?" The only people who actually knew what USM was are those who are from states contiguous to Mississippi or those who have been to Hattiesburg for one reason or another.
The only people who actually knew what USM was are those who are from states contiguous to Mississippi or those who have been to Hattiesburg for one reason or another.
We are now known among academicians from coast to coast.