The order of importance of things at USM - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Jun 16, 2005

The order of importance of things at USM

Date: Jun 16, 2005

So. Miss I'm so not gonna miss ya.

Date: Jun 16, 2005

rater,

Come on, just because someone writes a story about athletics doesnt mean . . . oh, whatever, geez.

Date: Jun 16, 2005

was that faculty/admin at USM don't have contracts. Those in athletics have to be done first.

Date: Jun 16, 2005

the point from rater.... wrote:

was that faculty/admin at USM don't have contracts. Those in athletics have to be done first.

contracts? . . . sounds nice.

Date: Jun 16, 2005

Malouk wrote:

the point from rater.... wrote: was that faculty/admin at USM don't have contracts. Those in athletics have to be done first.

contracts? . . . sounds nice.

I'm dense Malouk. Will you explain your comment please?

Date: Jun 16, 2005

Malouk doesn't understand that it is NORMAL for faculty to have contracts. That doesn't mean they can't be fired, etc. In case you didn't know, doctors have contracts, attorneys who are not partners sometimes (usually?) have contracts, all sorts of other people work under contract.

Date: Jun 16, 2005

How about the fact that USM faculty (even those with tenure) have to get a new one-year contract every year? (I've yet to hear of any state besides Mississippi that follows this system.)

Robert Campbell

Date: Jun 16, 2005

I guess my point is - if a contract does nothing as you state, then why have one. Or better yet, what about "right to work." Also, at what point is a person deemed worthy to receive a contract. I know that ALL employees of the university dont receive contracts do they? If not, why the descrimination?

Date: Jun 16, 2005

We had this discussion long time back. Upshot is that the yearly contract for profs is a Mississippi Weirdness, but not something faculty can do anything about. As to "worthy" that's a false disctinction. "Contract" employees are paid to do certain work, not by the hour. Your plumber is a contract employee. Your doctor is a contract employee. Your yard person is a contract employee. Hourly employees are paid for their time. It's about the kind of work, not the worthiness of the work.

Date: Jun 16, 2005

Robert Campbell wrote:

How about the fact that USM faculty (even those with tenure) have to get a new one-year contract every year? (I've yet to hear of any state besides Mississippi that follows this system.) Robert Campbell

Yes, my state does that as wel

Date: Jun 16, 2005

Little old lady wrote:

We had this discussion long time back. Upshot is that the yearly contract for profs is a Mississippi Weirdness, but not something faculty can do anything about. As to "worthy" that's a false disctinction. "Contract" employees are paid to do certain work, not by the hour. Your plumber is a contract employee. Your doctor is a contract employee. Your yard person is a contract employee. Hourly employees are paid for their time. It's about the kind of work, not the worthiness of the work.

So, by that, the plumbing supervisor of the physical plant who is an exempt, salaried employee hired to complete a scope of work would be a "contract" employee and thereby due a contract. I don't think so.

Now, I don't believe in treating unequal people equally; it's the posturing that unnerves me. Just say, some people deserve a contract due to there dedication to a profession/trade and the acquired skill set requires a contract to attract the best. Common sense.

If not, there should be a pile of contracts handed out to every level of employee at your institution. And, if you dont elevate those lower-level positions to receive contracts, do you de-elevate the contracted positions?

Date: Jun 16, 2005

'Scuse me, this conversation doesn't make any sense. Malouk, what's your point? And what does "de-elevate" mean?

Date: Jun 17, 2005

Third? You cant keep up with a troll (albeit, the King of Trolls)? We sleep in caves for goodness sake!