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old timer

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George Carter was just named chair of economics, finance and international business.   

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EEOConfused

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So, the CoB had a search and made an EEOC-legal hire in one day?

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COAL mind

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This certainly looks like a more pro-Thames approach than what you had.

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Uncommon Valor

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No one was hired, SfB.  A well-respected, tenured full professor with extensive accreditation experience agreed to fill an unexpected administrative vacancy.  Certainly you meant to say thank you to both the valued colleague who stepped down and the one who stepped up.

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lexicon man

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Uncommon Valor wrote:


No one was hired, SfB.  A well-respected, tenured full professor with extensive accreditation experience agreed to fill an unexpected administrative vacancy.  Certainly you meant to say thank you to both the valued colleague who stepped down and the one who stepped up.

Is that how USM gets around stuff?  "Vacancies" are "filled" without "hires" or a "hiring process."  Welcome back, Jim (Crow).

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cal

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What about '95?

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vinnie barbarino

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welcome back, Dr. Kotter. 



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word I heard

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Uncommon Valor wrote:


No one was hired, SfB.  A well-respected, tenured full professor with extensive accreditation experience agreed to fill an unexpected administrative vacancy.  Certainly you meant to say thank you to both the valued colleague who stepped down and the one who stepped up.

is that the current chair was forced out.  Is that possible?

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rollin'

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Did the COB lose another faculty this week?

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COBit

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George Carter is a good man.

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Tired off it all

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rollin' wrote:

Did the COB lose another faculty this week?



No, only another sliver of whatever reason to have pride or respect in the CoB was lost.

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running with scissors

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Boy, did I miss alot today.  All the other stuff and then this. 

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eagle gone

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Holy cow!  This deal is Christmas in June for one person over there!

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EEOConfused

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Uncommon Valor wrote:

No one was hired, SfB.  A well-respected, tenured full professor with extensive accreditation experience agreed to fill an unexpected administrative vacancy.  Certainly you meant to say thank you to both the valued colleague who stepped down and the one who stepped up.



I dont know who Carter is and I dont even work at USM. At my school this would have had to go through the EEOC approved process. Im sure that would take more than 1 day. This smells really bad.

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Not EEOConfused

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EEOConfused wrote:


So, the CoB had a search and made an EEOC-legal hire in one day?

If I'm not mistaken, if you decide you're going to appoint from within the department you can do so without the traditional position announcement. I've seen that done several times here.

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Dr. Bice

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Doty, the young buck, is reliving others' careers.  What the hell did he go to MS Southern for?



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EEOConfused

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Not EEOConfused wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, if you decide you're going to appoint from within the department you can do so without the traditional position announcement. I've seen that done several times here.



So now USM lets deans hand pick chairs with no transparency or faculty input? Do chairs get to pick new hires with the same ability?

If so I know what i need to do to get a job at USM. Just suck up to the right chairman and everythings ok.

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spots

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EEOConfused wrote:


Not EEOConfused wrote: If I'm not mistaken, if you decide you're going to appoint from within the department you can do so without the traditional position announcement. I've seen that done several times here. So now USM lets deans hand pick chairs with no transparency or faculty input? Do chairs get to pick new hires with the same ability? If so I know what i need to do to get a job at USM. Just suck up to the right chairman and everythings ok.

Doty=pocket Thames

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Running with Scissors

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I bet what ever deal Dr. Becker got coming in doesn't look near so sweet anymore (compared to last 2 chair "hires").

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Tired off it all

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I imagine Dr. Lucas is glad he was never housed in the CoB (old CBA) because if he was, he surely would be feeling the push out of retirement to be recycled yet again. Perhaps this is the new retirement incentive plan: retire or you have to be an administrator again. Obviously higher education is not the military because our "old soldiers" surely do not fade away.

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Not EEOConfused

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EEOConfused wrote:


 So now USM lets deans hand pick chairs with no transparency or faculty input? Do chairs get to pick new hires with the same ability? If so I know what i need to do to get a job at USM. Just suck up to the right chairman and everythings ok.


EEOConfused,


That's not what I said. All I said was "If I'm not mistaken, if you decide you're going to appoint from within the department you can do so without the traditional position announcement. I've seen that done several times here."  Read what I said carefully and you will note that I said nothing about deans hand picking chairs with no faculty input. As the old saying goes, "the department whose dean picks the chair without appropriate faculty input has a fool for a dean."



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Ataman

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Cossack: what sayeth thou on this chairman situation?

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Department X

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It follows that any departmental administrative appointment can be made without a national search if the appointment is an internal one. I would imagine, for instance, that Nursing has a Director of Clinical Training Placements (or some such title). If they are committed to an internal appointment, there is nothing that would require them to conduct a national search with all of the advertising and records keeping that pertains thereto. A Department of Computer Science could appoint a Director of its Computer Laboratory internally with no national search. These sorts of things are done every day at universities across the country.

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looped

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I was told by someone inside the loop that Mark did not want to resign.  Doty forced the issue and appointed George Carter after Mark resigned.  I hear he says he had to make a quick decision, so very few faculty were consulted.  The "consults" weren't really even consults, they were notifications of an impending action I hear. 

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Cossack

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The pool of faculty who would consider being chair has no water, so finding someone to take the job is an accomplishment. That someone is willing to take the job may or may not be good news. I am reminded of something a friend told me years ago when the issue of dating came up. His words were, "when I ask a woman out on a date and she accepts, I lose all respect for her".

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cal

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what about '95?

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yip

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eagle gone wrote:


Holy cow!  This deal is Christmas in June for one person over there!

No kidding, the staff at IHL may have to hire a part-timer to handle the travel requests.

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Pathfinder

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yip wrote:

eagle gone wrote:
Holy cow!  This deal is Christmas in June for one person over there!
No kidding, the staff at IHL may have to hire a part-timer to handle the travel requests.




Are you guys talking about employee #1929??????

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yip

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Pathfinder wrote:


yip wrote: eagle gone wrote: Holy cow!  This deal is Christmas in June for one person over there! No kidding, the staff at IHL may have to hire a part-timer to handle the travel requests. Are you guys talking about employee #1929??????

Seems like kind of a high number.

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think before you type

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EEOConfused wrote:



I dont know who Carter is and I dont even work at USM. At my school this would have had to go through the EEOC approved process. Im sure that would take more than 1 day. This smells really bad.





I nominate this post for the "I don't know a thing about what I'm talking about, but I'll still run my mouth (or slap the keyboard)

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