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Date: May 25, 2005

RE: rooms

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Magnolia
"Reporter: It sounds like this is a budget need for FY 05/06. Do you know what, if anything, has already been spent on Ad Astra?"

Sorry, Magnolia, I don't. But if I come across the information I will post it.

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:

Originally posted by: Silence Dogood
"I for one do not have a problem with having to hoof it around campus to my classes."

I agree with you 100% on this point. Many industries, and even hospitals, require their employees to walk further than we must walk.

"My problem will be that I would like to take the last class for my discipline (History) in CoAL not in the science building. I was under the impression that is why we have separate colleges."

But I can't agree with you on your second point. Universities are not organized into separate colleges in order for them to be in close proximity physically. Universities are organized into separate colleges because of educational considerations. It makes sense for English and History to be in the same college, for instance, but it really doesn't matter if they physically located in each other's backyard.

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Roommates
"It makes sense for English and History to be in the same college, for instance, but it really doesn't matter if they physically located in each other's backyard."

Although Eng and Hist at USM are currently located in the Glamser-Stringer Liberal Arts Building, they could easily be housed separately. In fact, Eng and Hist are housed separately at some universities even though both are in a liberal arts college.

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: In nomine universitas

The construction requires the genetive: In nomine universitatis.

Let various posters note that the issue here is not the opportunity to get some exercise outside of the Paine Center, but rather efficiency or the lack thereof. I predict mayhem from Ad Astra. The name is probably based on the Latin motto, "Ad astra per aspera" ("To the stars through difficulties"). We're going to have difficulties, but we won't be going to the stars. Ad Africam perhaps, but not ad astra.

Date: May 25, 2005

genetive = genitive

(Mehercule!)

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Latin stickler
"
The construction requires the genetive: In nomine universitatis.
Let various posters note that the issue here is not the opportunity to get some exercise outside of the Paine Center, but rather efficiency or the lack thereof. I predict mayhem from Ad Astra. The name is probably based on the Latin motto, "Ad astra per aspera" ("To the stars through difficulties"). We're going to have difficulties, but we won't be going to the stars. Ad Africam perhaps, but not ad astra."

"Ad astra per aspera" is the state motto of Kansas.

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: useless trivia
" "Ad astra per aspera" is the state motto of Kansas."

Some of our classrooms may wind up in Kansas as well.

Date: May 25, 2005

~Directed toward Roommates

I believe you misunderstood me or maybe I did not explain myself well enough,either way, I would just like to take my History classess in the "Glamser-Stringer" (nice ring to it) Liberal Arts Building because my discipline is a Liberal Arts. If I had been a Biology Major then I would have wanted to be in the science building. But as history has shown, especially in the past two years, nothing goes like it is suppose to at Southern. December seems like an eternity away at which time I just might be the first non-accredited graduating class. But that is a whole other thread left for another day and time.

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Latin stickler
" ..... Let various posters note that the issue here is not the opportunity to get some exercise outside of the Paine Center, ..."

It is spelled Payne Center, but I like your thinking

.

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: stinky cheese man
"rooms are supposed to be assigned by Friday and they will appear on soar. "

At Clemson, where each department controls a block of classrooms and makes occasional trades with other departments, summer school room assignments are normally made by the department scheduling committee (subject to very occasional changes by the dept. chair or by someone in the provost's domain). The room assignments normally go on the registration computer before the end of the previous Fall semester. Rarely does a student go online to register for a summer class and get a "TBA" for a location.

What's going on at USM--summer courses could be scheduled virtually anywhere on campus, and rooms aren't assigned till the last minute--would be completely unacceptable at other universities.

Robert Campbell

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Robert Campbell
" At Clemson, where each department controls a block of classrooms and makes occasional trades with other departments, summer school room assignments are normally made by the department scheduling committee (subject to very occasional changes by the dept. chair or by someone in the provost's domain). The room assignments normally go on the registration computer before the end of the previous Fall semester. Rarely does a student go online to register for a summer class and get a "TBA" for a location. What's going on at USM--summer courses could be scheduled virtually anywhere on campus, and rooms aren't assigned till the last minute--would be completely unacceptable at other universities. Robert Campbell"

Exactly. Is this story worth of an L&P?

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Latin stickler
" The name is probably based on the Latin motto, "Ad astra per aspera" ("To the stars through difficulties"). We're going to have difficulties, but we won't be going to the stars. "

"Through Rough Ways to the Stars;" "Through Suffering to Renown;" -- and my favorite: "Through our Endeavors, the Stars!

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Name stickler
"It is spelled Payne Center, but I like your thinking. "

It's hard to stickle in two languages at once.

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Silence Dogood
".... the "Glamser-Stringer" (nice ring to it) Liberal Arts Building....."

That name does have a nice ring to it. If the ring fits, then wear it! That's what I'm going to call that building.

Date: May 25, 2005

I believe you misunderstood me or maybe I did not explain myself well enough,either way, I would just like to take my History classess in the "Glamser-Stringer" (nice ring to it) Liberal Arts Building because my discipline is a Liberal Arts. If I had been a Biology Major then I would have wanted to be in the science building

Perhaps this is because you would prefer that the instructor for your classes not have to haul around a laptop, box of handouts/graded assignments, other instructional aids across campus to a classroom that is arranged in a manner not suited for their style of instruction. Or, perhaps your instructor uses several specialized software packages which must be installed on all those classroom computers (assuming those exist) by the overworked or non-existent iTech personnel. Or, perhaps you would like to be able to visit the faculty office before/after class without having a long walk through the weather. Or, perhaps you have several classes in your discipline during the day and would not see the need to haul all your stuff across campus for those separate classes.

Beware though, there are those that feel only lazy whiners complain about these things.

Date: May 25, 2005

I simply must ask...does Polymer Science conduct classes other than the SFT Memorial?

(no technical replies necessary going on about simple things like labs, etc)

Date: May 25, 2005

Other disciplines have classes in PSC.

Date: May 25, 2005

Could someone take the time to place this issue in context? That is, while it is important, what is its importance relative to other issues on campus? This is a real question -- I'm not on campus and can't tell.

Date: May 25, 2005

I think mismanagement of summer classes is worthy of mention on Liberty and Power. Classroom assignments are a long way from rocket science, and there is no need for special software.

When do summer classes actually begin at USM? (I hope the answer isn't this Friday

).

Robert Cmapbell

Date: May 25, 2005

Actually they start on Monday, which as we all know is also Memorial Day.

And yes Also Disgusted, what you posted about the professors having to carry stuff hither and yon as well as the other stuff you mentioned articulates the point I was trying to make to a tee, thank you.

Date: May 25, 2005

I should clarify that it is night classes that start Monday and day classes on Tuesday.

Date: May 25, 2005

rooms were posted to soar this afternoon. Get ready for the s**t storm

Date: May 25, 2005

I suppose that if the Nursing program is housed in the Albertson's space at Cloverleaf, the students can be bussed there and remain all day for their classes. Girls, between class you can shop at Hudsons till your heart's content! There's plenty of room on those busses for you and your packages during the 5:00 PM trip back to campus. Wear comfortable shoes, though, because it's a far distance from Albertson's to Hudsons. And lunch? Lordy, Lordy, there's a couple of good places to eat out there. A new fried chickin' place has been built right on the parking lot, and Wards is right across the street from Hudsons.

Date: May 25, 2005

All posters including me have ignored the most important benefit from this centralized class scheduling. This change will result in $677,922.32 in savings for the University. The change will reduce the variable cost of maintaining classrooms by making sure the classroom is as close to full as possible. SFT will claim that this reduces the fixed cost per student of maintenance more than it raises the variable cost. These figures will be provided by SFT's almost Ph.D. Director of Finance late today.

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Cossack
"All posters including me have ignored the most important benefit from this centralized class scheduling. This change will result in $677,922.32 in savings for the University. The change will reduce the variable cost of maintaining classrooms by making sure the classroom is as close to full as possible. SFT will claim that this reduces the fixed cost per student of maintenance more than it raises the variable cost. These figures will be provided by SFT's almost Ph.D. Director of Finance late today."

Cossack, I have seen your many thoughtful but humorless posts. Surely you had a smile on your face when you posted this one.

Date: May 25, 2005

Some of the classes have been posted and some have not. What are they going to do about drop and add - won't that throw everything off. It might be ok to walk across campus in the fall and spring semesters but all of my classes are scheduled from 10:00 to 1:00 and the heat out side is unbelievable. I am thinking about not going to summer school - not in the market for a heat stroke. If some of the Jocks want to do it that is fine with me.

Date: May 25, 2005

According to the Faculty Senate Listserv the early posting of some of the room assignments has helped. Some faculty are already requesting room changes.

Monday should be an interesting day at USM. Things are so screwed up during the first few days of most semesters that some students don't bother attending class until the second week.

Date: May 25, 2005

My room assignments are a little goofy --- not as bad as I thought --- but, still, a little goofy looking.

Date: May 25, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Reporter
"From Faculty Senate Listserv:
Lines from the iTech budget needs for upcoming FY:
Ad Astra Room Scheduler Project $132,812.97Ad Astra Support 27,816.64Source: Documents provided at iTech Advisory Council meeting 5/12/05That yields $160,629.61
"

Everybody is required to turn in a budget that takes a 5% hit. Even the Academic Council budget needed to be adjusted down 5%. Is this system or the Provost gonna take 5% fromthis Ad Astra budget?

Class assignments aren't just goofy, they are highly problematic. One of my colleages is teaching two sections of something and requested rooms with computers, etc because she is set up to do powerpoint. She got one section in an equipped room and the other section in an unequipped room.

I believe that the problems with room assignments are going to be horrible. Students will learn so late where to go for classes and things will probably have to be shifted around at the last minute.

I don't think the old "system" was broken. I am absolutely astounded and sickened by yet another expensive mistake.

Amy Young