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Date: May 23, 2005

RE: Media Roll of Honor

Date: May 23, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Retired prof
"Nothing of mine got published (reminded me of some of my journal submissions when I was working) "

Denis Wiesenberg from the Coast who appeared on the Dave Elliott show with Myron Henry last spring. The two of them made a great team.

Date: May 23, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Retired prof
"Nothing of mine got published (reminded me of some of my journal submissions when I was working)."

Oops! I guess you just seemed like part of the family.

Date: May 23, 2005

Hey, what about Rachel...for the life of me I can't remember her last name, from the Student Printz? Amazing courage for anyone, especially a student.

Date: May 23, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Big City Lights
"Oops! I guess you just seemed like part of the family. "

Well, gosh, I hope I AM part of the family. Don't you go rejecting me too!

Date: May 23, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: retired prof
"Well, gosh, I hope I AM part of the family. Don't you go rejecting me too! "

Oops! I guess you are just part of the family.

Date: May 24, 2005

$2,000 prize for student journalists whose pieces (reflecting evenhanded reporting "on a topic of intellectual interest") were published in a student newspaper in the 2004-5 school year is advertised in the Chronicle today. June 30 deadline.

Applicants should send their materials, including an address or addresses at which they can be reached in the fall, to:

David W. Miller Award
The Chronicle of Higher Education
1255 23rd Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037
milleraward@chronicle.com

Date: May 24, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: interested bystander
"Hey, what about Rachel...for the life of me I can't remember her last name, from the Student Printz? Amazing courage for anyone, especially a student."

Quinlivan. Rachel Quinlivan. Courage, objectivity, and class.

JL

Date: May 24, 2005

This maybe a bit of a stretch, but the two guys who first had the sign at the USM ballgame in 2004 asking to dump Shelby, they were removed from the game by campus security.

The first freedom of speech breach by SFT and company in public

Date: May 24, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: 3 point land
"This maybe a bit of a stretch, but the two guys who first had the sign at the USM ballgame in 2004 asking to dump Shelby, they were removed from the game by campus security."

Those guys must have had a crystal ball (no pun intended).

Date: May 24, 2005

D.C. Berry. The professor who destroyed his own teaching awards in that magnificant display of protest. I believe that pictures of that event actually appeared in the media.

Date: May 24, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Blaze of Glory
"D.C. Berry. The professor who destroyed his own teaching awards in that magnificant display of protest. I believe that pictures of that event actually appeared in the media. "

This event perhaps most perfectly represented the horror and devastation of the SFT reign.

Date: May 24, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: 3 point land
"This maybe a bit of a stretch, but the two guys who first had the sign at the USM ballgame in 2004 asking to dump Shelby, they were removed from the game by campus security.
The first freedom of speech breach by SFT and company in public"

Ryan Schilling, I believe, was one.

Date: May 28, 2005

Mary Beth Applin (Excellent letter of support in the Hattiesburg American)

Date: May 28, 2005

Shae Brady (supportive letter published on Christmas Eve 2004)

Date: Jun 2, 2005

Paul Laughlin - Mr. Laughlin, without a doubt, wrote the most sophisticated, subtle, historically accurate, hard hitting letter ever seen in the Hattiesburg American.

Date: Jun 2, 2005

What about any of the writers for the Printz during 2004-05? They had to deal with the administration AND a student group called The Students Against The Student Printz (boasting Walt Cain and his friends as members). Facing insurmountable odds (i.e.: Shelby's inability to give a straight answer) and some opposition from the student body and not allowing either to beat the staff down deserves kudos for this year's printz staff.

Date: Jun 3, 2005

I agree, kudos to the staff this year for their work.

I've never heard about the Students against The Student Printz. Can someone tell us more about it?

Date: Jun 3, 2005

Someone has to combat the yellow journalism taught to youngsters these days

Date: Jun 3, 2005

Jacob Barnes wrote:

Someone has to combat the yellow journalism taught to youngsters these days

Jake,

It must be hard for you knowing that your man Shelby made such a royal mess of his big opportunity and is now on his way out the door. Even Roy Klumb, with all the massive brain power he possesses, couldn't save him. You need to get over it, Jake. Take comfort in the fact that Shelby never really wanted to be president.

Date: Jun 3, 2005

PS to Jake:

"The narrator of the story is Jake Barnes. Like his Biblical namesake Jacob, Jake has trouble sleeping because he wrestles nightly with his fate. He is an American living in Paris as a newspaper correspondent. He was rendered impotent by a World War I wound and is thus unable to consummate his love with Brett."

You've been rendered impotent, buddy. And, like your friend Francis Macomber on another thread, you've lost the respect and affection of people close to you. Give up your Shelby fixation and maybe you can get your life back on track.

Date: Jun 3, 2005

George,

You are one FUNNY cartoon! Man, that's a good Friday afternoon laugh!

Nicky boy

Date: Jun 3, 2005

Oh, and you really think the Printz is sound journalism? Come on.. . .

Date: Jun 3, 2005

Nick Adams wrote:

Oh, and you really think the Printz is sound journalism? Come on.. . .

Thanks for the compliment! I thank you, and my boy Elroy thanks you.

Apparently the Student Printz produces good enough journalism to have won all sorts of awards recently from professional judges. But I guess you'd say all the outside judges are biased, just as all the outside evaluators are biased, and all the outside faculty are biased, and . . .

Well, you get the idea, Nick. In your very tiny universe, Shelby can do no wrong. But is is indeed a VERY tiny universe. It's basically you and Roy in a lifeboat.

Date: Jun 3, 2005

George Jetson wrote:

Nick Adams wrote: Oh, and you really think the Printz is sound journalism? Come on.. . . Thanks for the compliment! I thank you, and my boy Elroy thanks you. Apparently the Student Printz produces good enough journalism to have won all sorts of awards recently from professional judges. But I guess you'd say all the outside judges are biased, just as all the outside evaluators are biased, and all the outside faculty are biased, and . . . Well, you get the idea, Nick. In your very tiny universe, Shelby can do no wrong. But is is indeed a VERY tiny universe. It's basically you and Roy in a lifeboat.

When did I mention SFT? How did he enter into this debate? I thought this was about the Printz and journalism?

Date: Jun 3, 2005

Nick Adams wrote:

When did I mention SFT? How did he enter into this debate? I thought this was about the Printz and journalism?

We can confine it to journalism if you like. Your various posts under various literary noms-de-plume, on this thread and others, imply a regard for Shelby (or a contempt for his critics), but if the shoe doesn't fit, I apologize for assuming you wear it.

Now, back to journalism: admittedly the Printz and most student newspapers are not, generally, full of top-flight journalism; nevertheless, the Printz deserves a lot of credit (especially last year's staff) for staying on top of the story and covering it clearly. What is it about the Printz that you dislike that makes it any different from most other college papers? And how do you explain all the awards the Printz has recently won if you think this particular college paper is so uniquely full of yellow journalism? Apparently those who judge such things regard the Printz as above average.

Date: Jun 3, 2005

George Jetson wrote:

Nick Adams wrote: When did I mention SFT? How did he enter into this debate? I thought this was about the Printz and journalism? We can confine it to journalism if you like. Your various posts under various literary noms-de-plume, on this thread and others, imply a regard for Shelby (or a contempt for his critics), but if the shoe doesn't fit, I apologize for assuming you wear it. Now, back to journalism: admittedly the Printz and most student newspapers are not, generally, full of top-flight journalism; nevertheless, the Printz deserves a lot of credit (especially last year's staff) for staying on top of the story and covering it clearly. What is it about the Printz that you dislike that makes it any different from most other college papers? And how do you explain all the awards the Printz has recently won if you think this particular college paper is so uniquely full of yellow journalism? Apparently those who judge such things regard the Printz as above average.

The awards I can't explain without assumption. I can tell you that the writers of the Printz have a difficult time bringing themselves to cover "both sides of the story." Many times they won't even try to get the facts right. I mean, for persons who scream for the unadulterated truth, you would think someone would ask questions of their students. I have personally called to ask what sources they consulted for stories because I know they failed to contact anyone that had the actual data. A number of persons/departments (and no, not SFT or admin types) have been the victim of one-sided, sensationalized stories from the Printz staff in the previous year.

Date: Jun 3, 2005

Hem's ghost in the machine wrote:

The awards I can't explain without assumption. I can tell you that the writers of the Printz have a difficult time bringing themselves to cover "both sides of the story." Many times they won't even try to get the facts right. I mean, for persons who scream for the unadulterated truth, you would think someone would ask questions of their students. I have personally called to ask what sources they consulted for stories because I know they failed to contact anyone that had the actual data. A number of persons/departments (and no, not SFT or admin types) have been the victim of one-sided, sensationalized stories from the Printz staff in the previous year.

Unfortunately, these are the failings of many, many college newspapers. I have noticed that many students write for the paper not because they are interested in covering news but because they are interested in "self-expression." (I suspect this is also true of many professional journalists, unfortunately.) "Self-expression" (which is, to a great degree, the bane of our culture) is not appropriate in news stories.

My only problem with Nick is that he seems to be singling out the Printz as uniquely bad, whereas, in the eyes of professional judges, it seems to be less bad than many other papers and indeed apparently has much to commend it. Personally, I admired last year's staff for not buckling under administrative pressure, even when the editor (Rachel Q.) was personally attacked by Shelby himself. It took some real guts for a student to stand up to a university president who fancies himself King of the Universe.

Date: Jun 3, 2005

Geore Jetson wrote:

Hem's ghost in the machine wrote: The awards I can't explain without assumption. I can tell you that the writers of the Printz have a difficult time bringing themselves to cover "both sides of the story." Many times they won't even try to get the facts right. I mean, for persons who scream for the unadulterated truth, you would think someone would ask questions of their students. I have personally called to ask what sources they consulted for stories because I know they failed to contact anyone that had the actual data. A number of persons/departments (and no, not SFT or admin types) have been the victim of one-sided, sensationalized stories from the Printz staff in the previous year. Unfortunately, these are the failings of many, many college newspapers. I have noticed that many students write for the paper not because they are interested in covering news but because they are interested in "self-expression." (I suspect this is also true of many professional journalists, unfortunately.) "Self-expression" (which is, to a great degree, the bane of our culture) is not appropriate in news stories. My only problem with Nick is that he seems to be singling out the Printz as uniquely bad, whereas, in the eyes of professional judges, it seems to be less bad than many other papers and indeed apparently has much to commend it. Personally, I admired last year's staff for not buckling under administrative pressure, even when the editor (Rachel Q.) was personally attacked by Shelby himself. It took some real guts for a student to stand up to a university president who fancies himself King of the Universe.

Im not a SFT fan, but why did he "attack" her (or did he really attack her actions - there's a dfifference you know). Was it because of the writing I just mentioned? In that case, why would you honor her "courage?" She SHOULD BE brought forward.

Date: Jun 3, 2005

Nick wrote:

Im not a SFT fan, but why did he "attack" her (or did he really attack her actions - there's a dfifference you know). Was it because of the writing I just mentioned? In that case, why would you honor her "courage?" She SHOULD BE brought forward.

I can't remember the details of the incident; I simply remember that she had a very good explanation of her actions and that the explanation made Shelby look (once again) ridiculous.

Why did he attack her actions? Because he doesn't deal well with anything that makes him look bad. Unfortunately, most of what makes him look bad are his own actions coming back to bite him on the rear end. Shelby would rather death with student toadies like Walt Cain; he doesn't like students (or faculty, or staff) who question him.