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Date: May 19, 2005

From EagleTalk RE: Thames

Date: May 19, 2005

Uh, did these guys take freshman math? 430 = "a few" professors?

Date: May 19, 2005

My point in posting this is that they have not given 1 second's thought to the possibility that Thames isn't leaving of his own accord.

They view him as a great man rather than as the tragic figure that he is.

Date: May 19, 2005

SD, you're absolutely correct. Sadly, nothing we say will change these minds, and it's probably futile to try. Thanks for posting this. I tried looking at their board once or twice before, can't deal with it.

Date: May 19, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Spoof Daddy
"My point in posting this is that they have not given 1 second's thought to the possibility that Thames isn't leaving of his own accord. They view him as a great man rather than as the tragic figure that he is."

SD,

I would amend "tragic" to "pathetic." A tragic figure has an element of nobility about him.

Date: May 19, 2005

While I am not a Thames supporter, I've said from day one that it is evident that Dr. Thames truly loves USM. I believe that he understands that his seeking a second term would be futile and would lead to even greater strife. Basically, no matter what his second term would have to offer, it would do more harm for us at this time than good.

In short, by not seeking a second term, Dr. Thames is putting USM first.

Sayings Shelby loves USM is like saying the guy who beats his wife loves her to death...

I really got tired of people(including SFT) how much Shelby loves USM. I say Shelby loves Shelby first and foremost and then.........

This guy has an unique way of looking at things, Shelby is leaving because he puts USM first. With the new board prez and new reporting structure, he realized it was time to confess his love for USM.

As somone else mentioned...here comes the health issues or wants to spend more time with his family

Date: May 19, 2005

From EagleTalk:

"The reason there has been division since day one of his presidency is because his detractors never wanted him to become president in the first place. He required people to go to work and earn their pay. People outside the world of academia have to do it, why not university professors? "

How long will we have to listen to this ignorance before it dies out? I say it never will die out? The general public will never understand academia.

Date: May 19, 2005

Here's the link to that EagleTalk thread, which fizzled out this afternoon:

http://southernmiss.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1355&mid=52956624&sid=&tid=52949279&style=1

It's amazing how little the EagleTalkers understand. It doesn't seem to have occurred to any of them that the Board might have put Thames in because he would be bad for USM.

Robert Campbell

Date: May 20, 2005

Yes, and husbands frequently love the wives they beat up and fathers frequently love the daughters they rape.

Date: May 20, 2005

Dr. Polk,

What's your take on yesterday's news?

Date: May 20, 2005

I know SFT loves USM more than Campbell from Clemson.

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: JoJo
"I know SFT loves USM more than Campbell from Clemson. "

Yes, but Campbell from Clemson loves shared governance more than SFT from USM!

Truth

Date: May 20, 2005

Shared governance went down with the Berlin Wall. You are living in the PAST. It is OVER!!

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: JoJo
"Shared governance went down with the Berlin Wall. You are living in the PAST. It is OVER!! "

Tell that to Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Johns Hopkins, TAMU, etc. etc. etc.

It is you, my friend, who are living in the past.

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: JoJo
"Shared governance went down with the Berlin Wall. You are living in the PAST. It is OVER!! "

Good morning, Jojo!
Like LVN, I have been resisting the temptation to respond to your idiocies--but I just can't let this one pass. I was in Berlin as the Wall was being built, and had ample opportunity to observe life on both sides of it. Listen carefully, Jojo--the style of governance so beloved by Diktator Shelby and apparently by you was the style espoused by those who BUILT THE WALL! Got it? The despotism model was used by the Nazis and the Soviets, now Shelby. It ended in disaster for them, and it will end in disaster for those who attempt to revive it here. What's over, Jojoke, is YOU--because you and Shelboo and all your ilk are up against the forces of democratic rule, the very forces that brought down the Wall. Get used to it.

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: JoJo
"Shared governance went down with the Berlin Wall. You are living in the PAST. It is OVER!! "

Please JoJo call SACS and let them know. Those fools are still evaluating universities with guidelines that require shared governance. I'm sure glad JoJo did this research and informed us.

Date: May 20, 2005

Latest from EagleTalk:

"I don't know what to think of this . . . . . .
Reply

Based on past history of the two predecessors of Dr. Thames, the next President will be one who believes conflict is not a part of good sound management. The faculty will not allow anyone an opinion other than what the faculty senate spews forth. Having 100% consensus and equality for everyone (as the faculty promote) will only advance mediocrity for many years to come. Anyone who dares to question a faculty member's motives or actions need only remember what happened to Insom just a few short weeks ago. I think the IHL should dig deep into the University and identify those consistent problem children and offer a relocation assitance for them (outside Southern MS)"

Date: May 20, 2005

Another EagleTalk Thread:

http://southernmiss.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1355&mid=52966503&sid=&tid=52966503&style=1

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: ET Reader
"Having 100% consensus and equality for everyone (as the faculty promote) will only advance mediocrity for many years to come.

I'm not sure anyone on the faculty has ever stated that it should have 100% consensus.

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Reporter
"Another EagleTalk Thread: http://southernmiss.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1355&mid=52966503&sid=&tid=52966503&style=1"

I loved this quote from ET:

"So he will be MORE abrasive?
Reply

In case you missed the last prez. election your in the minority 3. Unless you count the democrats that live in the delta. The liberal media and proffessors are poising young peoples minds. And since i pay to be on this board i will post what i want when i want."

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Noel Polk
"Yes, and husbands frequently love the wives they beat up and fathers frequently love the daughters they rape."

A class statement from a class individual. I for one am happy that you no longer darken the hallways at Southern Miss, Noel.

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Seeker
" A class statement from a class individual. I for one am happy that you no longer darken the hallways at Southern Miss, Noel."

You must be very lonely holding that opinion, Seeker. Please share with this board why you feels this way. Confession is good for the soul, or so they say.

Date: May 20, 2005

Seeker, Dr. Polk frequently indulges in what is called "hyperbole." Dont' worry about him darkening the halls. He's been "streamlined" -- cast into the outer darkness of a Fulbright. I'm sure he misses USM, but like almost everybody else who got streamlined, he's gone on to bigger and better things.

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Seeker
"

A class statement from a class individual. I for one am happy that you no longer darken the hallways at Southern Miss, Noel."

Yep, Noel is one classy individual (and has the credentials to back it up). Too bad we can't say the same for you, Seeker.

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Seeker
"

A class statement from a class individual. I for one am happy that you no longer darken the hallways at Southern Miss, Noel."

The operative word in your post is "I for one." Yep, you're in a group of one on this issue, Seeker. Have fun with yourself.

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: LeavingASAP
"
You must be very lonely holding that opinion, Seeker. Please share with this board why you feels this way. Confession is good for the soul, or so they say."

By all means, I celebrate anytime we have one less, pompous, self important, arrogant, egomaniacal individual on campus. I celebrated the day I learned Noel was going MSU, just as I will celebrate when May 31, 2007 gets here. Like it or not Thames and Noel are cut from the same cloth, they are just on opposite sides of the issue.

Any chance the Poles will keep him? We can only hope.

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Seeker
"

By all means, I celebrate anytime we have one less, pompous, self important, arrogant, egomaniacal individual on campus. I celebrated the day I learned Noel was going MSU, just as I will celebrate when May 31, 2007 gets here. Like it or not Thames and Noel are cut from the same cloth, they are just on opposite sides of the issue.

Any chance the Poles will keep him? We can only hope.
"

Seeker, put down the wacky weed. Noel Polk is as close to SFT in personality, intelligence and leadership styles as Bob Dylan is to Britney Spears in musical talent. Pick up on it.

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: truth4usm/AH
"

Yep, Noel is one classy individual (and has the credentials to back it up). Too bad we can't say the same for you, Seeker."

Andrea,

The venom you spew towards me is always welcome. It reminds me of an old family saying, that was coined by my great grandfather two generations ago. My family still lives by his saying today.

"It is better to be hated for who you are, than to be loved for who you are not." - great-grandfather Seeker.

Date: May 20, 2005

Seeker, at least you come back and defend your positions, even when they're questionable.

As a business person, how do you see the effect on a large institution of having a lame-duck, wounded leader for two more years? Do you think the business community will realise what a bad thing that is? After all, it's more a business concept than an academic one?

Who would you like to see as interim president?

Date: May 20, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Seeker
"

Andrea,

The venom you spew towards me is always welcome. It reminds me of an old family saying, that was coined by my great grandfather two generations ago. My family still lives by his saying today.

"It is better to be hated for who you are, than to be loved for who you are not." - great-grandfather Seeker.
"

You don't know me well enough to know what venom is...and your myopic view of USM remains laughable.

Funny, too, that you post this quote when you aren't "red-blooded male" enough to reveal your true identity. Some of us are more "honest" than others, it seems.