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Date: May 11, 2005

Enrollment Count in USM Brochure

Date: May 11, 2005

Read the quote from the SGA rep. She basically says USM should be lying to the public.

Date: May 11, 2005

Joe Paul has been a Thames apologist from the start. He was at the table and joined in the verbal assault on Myron as faculty senate president. He's just managed to stay low. He is one person in the administration that has a profile as a responsible citizen of the community (from the school board). He knows what is right. He could have spoken up. He didn't.

Date: May 11, 2005

Myron Henry's contention:

"Fall enrollment counting is not as accurate as three-term credit hour counting, which says we're completely even over a three-year period," he said.

But Joe Paul, vice-president of student affairs, said the increase in students is accurate and reflects an increasing number of part-time students.

"The 10-day head count we used is often referred to as a 'bragging number,' " he said. "There's no doubt a lot of our growth has been in part-time students at the Gulf Coast campus."

Okay, math guys. Henry says the enrollment count is even over the last three years. Paul says there is growth and a lot of it is in part-time students.
Can one then infer that there has been a drop in full-time students?

Date: May 11, 2005

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Originally posted by: 20,000 and counting
"...Okay, math guys. Henry says the enrollment count is even over the last three years. Paul says there is growth and a lot of it is in part-time students. Can one then infer that there has been a drop in full-time students?"

If the Student Credit Hours (SCH) remains the same and the number of students increase, then the more students must be taking a reduced load. Yes, there would have to be more part-time students and fewer full-time students.

Isn't it neat how SFT can reach his 20,000 student goal (20,000 paying tuition), but not grow or benefit the university. If it wasn't for those d*mn academic requirements, we could be great as far as PR goes.

Date: May 11, 2005

The irony is that they destroyed Continuing Ed, a great source of credit hour production, and an even greater source of headcount, if you wanted to count all the correspondence students as "heads"

Date: May 11, 2005

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Originally posted by: LeavingASAP
"Isn't it neat how SFT can reach his 20,000 student goal (20,000 paying tuition), but not grow or benefit the university. If it wasn't for those d*mn academic requirements, we could be great as far as PR goes."

You hit that scam nail squarely on the head! I know it has been asked before but what is the retention rate for part-time students, especially those who are only taking one course in the "try it you'll like it" program? How many of the part-time students touted for the growth increases on the coast have actually been admitted using standard admissions criteria? Is anyone actually acknowledging the forbidden "OE" University terminology yet?

Date: May 11, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: LeavingASAP
If the Student Credit Hours (SCH) remains the same and the number of students increase, then the more students must be taking a reduced load. Yes, there would have to be more part-time students and fewer full-time students.

It appears, then, that the number of full time students on the Hattiesburg campus has fallen over the past three years. Wouldn't the Hattiesburg business boosters be upset if they knew the truth?