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I bet most of you do not realize that today is a state holiday in Mississippi and most state officers are closed, but not universities. Yes, today is Confederate Memorial Day, a state holiday.  No joke.



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Robert Campbell

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Confederate Memorial Day used to be a state holiday in South Carolina, too.

May 30, orginally Union Memorial Day, is still not a state holiday here.

Robert Campbell

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Reporter

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Originally posted by: Robert Campbell
"Confederate Memorial Day used to be a state holiday in South Carolina, too. May 30, orginally Union Memorial Day, is still not a state holiday here. Robert Campbell"

Thanks for the "t" Robert.     I'm glad you said "used to be".  Do any other states celebrate Confederate Memorial Day?  Alabama?  I heard that it was only recently that  Mississippi did away with a holiday in June and now give workers the Memorial Day holiday everyone else celebrates. 

 

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Grey and Blue

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Originally posted by: Reporter
"I bet most of you do not realize that today is a state holiday in Mississippi and most state officers are closed, but not universities. Yes, today is Confederate Memorial Day, a state holiday.  No joke."
You can't revise history, although that's been tried in some history books. Soldiers did die in that horrible war. They left loved ones behind. Nobody's complaining about the song "Battle Hymn of the Republic." Let it be, please.

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Robert Evans

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" Thanks for the "t" Robert.     I'm glad you said "used to be".  Do any other states celebrate Confederate Memorial Day?  Alabama?  I heard that it was only recently that  Mississippi did away with a holiday in June and now give workers the Memorial Day holiday everyone else celebrates.  "
Yes, the great state of Alabama does still celebrate CMD.  We also celebrate MLK and RE Lee day simultaneously. 

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Rooney

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Speaking of Confederates, Robert E. Lee was the "President" of two universities in his day.  I'm sure many supporters of SFT (and SFT also) look up to him.  Is there any indication he would "run" USM the way it's currently being "run"?


I don't think so.



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Scalliwag

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"Yes, today is Confederate Memorial Day, a state holiday.  No joke."

A little history can be good for the soul. The Union troops were not exactly the kind and gentle sorts some have been led to believe. Unnecessary havoc and destruction often accompanied their presence in the South. Jackson (Mississippi) was once dubbed "Chinmeyville" because of the wrath incurred during Sherman's march (see Jana Hoops' June 28, 2002 account in the Clarion-Ledger):


"Although Jackson escaped military action during the first two years of the Civil War, the town was eventually burned three times by Union troops under the command of Gen. William T. Sherman. Railroads, bridges, factories, businesses, hotels, private homes and churches were destroyed.

The destruction so complete that practically nothing was left standing except brick chimneys. Dubbed "Chimneyville," Jackson faced an uncertain future of rebuilding as 1865 drew to a close."


We're talking about civilians, private homes, and churches being unnecessarily destroyed.



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Robert Campbell

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I'm not questioning anyone who cites the gratuitous destruction during the Civil War, on top of the mass slaughter on the battlefield.

Sherman's troops also burned Columbia, SC. The very few Sherman Streets in South Carolina you can be quite sure were named after someone else.

But none of that makes the defense of slavery a just cause.

Robert Campbell

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Carpetbagger

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"But none of that makes the defense of slavery a just cause."

True, Robert. The South should not have been the buyers and The North should not have been the sellers.


 


"If I owned hell and Texas, I'd rent out Texas and live in hell."


-William Tecumseh Sherman



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I can talk, because I had relatives on both sides (including Ulysses Grant Fitzwater.) When I was a child, there were still a lot of children and grandchildren of Confederate veterans around, and the memory of their suffering was still a wound. At the same time, the suffering of the slaves was not talked about very much (or at all). Let's not re-fight the War Between the States (as I was carefully taught to call it) but recall that as in any war, there were awful things done all around. Confederate Memorial Day is an odd holiday, but like the flag (which I'm not crazy about either) it's one of those things that the people of the state ought to be able to decide for themselves. You Yankees get enough votes, you can change it.

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I should clarify, U. G. Fitzwater naturally did not FIGHT in the war, but the name should tell you where his parents stood!

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