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Date: Apr 4, 2005

RE: RE: RE: Preliminary Williams Report

Date: Apr 4, 2005

Stir it up,

At the end of this we will see who are crackpots and who are trolls.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Stir it up
"IF this were true, it would require the participation of Dr. Williams in a scheme by the dome to weaken the College of Business. Anyone who knows the integrity of Dr. Williams would find this hard to believe. Dr. Williams could have the dean's job, the provost's job, and maybe even the interim presidency for the asking so thinking he could be bought or threatened by this administration is ludicrous. As I posted above, "His resignation was certainly not 'forced' - just more #$&@ from those who like to stir the crackpot-filled CoB crockpot.""

Stir it up, your explanation leads to a conclusion that Glamser and Stringer "participated" in "a scheme" to "weaken the Univ of Southern Mississippi." If Williams to was removed from his post by Doty due to an order/arrangement from the dome, then AW didn't "participate" in anything.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: ram
" When I left Mississippi in the late 1960's headed for Kansas, I thought BSU meant Baptist Student Union. I arrived on campus up there only to learn that "BSU" meant Black Student Union. They had a Baptist Student Union, but it did not use the acronym because to do so would have been confusing; everybody (in that world) understood the B stood for Black. It took me longer to read this thread than it took to adjust to the difference. But I was 19 then."

Maybe someone should start a Paul Newman fan club on the USM campus and call it the Newman Club.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: buzz
"Stir it up, your explanation leads to a conclusion that Glamser and Stringer "participated" in "a scheme" to "weaken the Univ of Southern Mississippi." If Williams to was removed from his post by Doty due to an order/arrangement from the dome, then AW didn't "participate" in anything."

Doty has been telling his buds how glad he is that AW is out. All the others are under control.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

This is what I was getting at - note that the emphasis is now switching to set up a Doty/Williams split where none exists - what is the problem with the posters in CoB (or those pretending to be).

Ask Dr. Williams or ask Dean Doty - this is bs.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Stir it up
"T - what is the problem with the posters in CoB (or those pretending to be).
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When you find out, would you let the rest of us know?

Date: Apr 4, 2005

Has anyone stopped to think that maybe "stir it up" is someone in the dome, and doesn't want the truth to get out about William's forced resignation? The stories about AW are now, today, just beginning to circulate widely. They are coming from various sources, most are impeccable.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: think about it
"Has anyone stopped to think that maybe "stir it up" is someone in the dome, and doesn't want the truth to get out about William's forced resignation? The stories about AW are now, today, just beginning to circulate widely. They are coming from various sources, most are impeccable."

You don't have to force someone out. You just have to make their life miserable so that they walk away. It has Doty's style written all over it.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Stir it up
"This is what I was getting at - note that the emphasis is now switching to set up a Doty/Williams split where none exists - what is the problem with the posters in CoB (or those pretending to be). Ask Dr. Williams or ask Dean Doty - this is bs."

Williams won't talk --- not his style. Doty won't talk, part of the deed.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: PI
"Williams won't talk --- not his style. Doty won't talk, part of the deed."

You're right AW will never talk. He's a gentleman. Doty is a snake in the grass.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

Note that there is not one smidgeon of specific criticism - only nasty innuendo.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

I wonder if some on the board are wanting others to look the other way on this because even scoundrels know you don't want to get caught messing with AW.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: I wonder
"I wonder if some on the board are wanting others to look the other way on this because even scoundrels know you don't want to get caught messing with AW."

Cob troll, cob troll, cob troll.......

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: over stirred
"Cob troll, cob troll, cob troll......."

You nervous about something?

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Dr. Phil
"You nervous about something?"

Only that AW is too much of a gentleman to ever talk about what happened. Doty knows that gives him a lot of cover.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Nervous
" Doty knows that gives him a lot of cover."

Where is the BS detector to zap this troll?

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: over stirred
"Where is the BS detector to zap this troll?"

If you define anyone who disagrees as a troll ...

Date: Apr 4, 2005

I have known Alvin Williams for 15 years. He has been a department chair for 17-18 years. He has been put on way too many university committees in addition to his responsibilities as chair. He teaches class and still manages to publish. He has a family and he is active in his church. He has been stretched too thin for some time and I have felt for some time that he may have to stop some of his activities. I do not see any benefit to the Dean or Associate Dean to have Alvin step down, indeed it will increase their work. In the spirit of fair play, I feel that we should let this topic die. Alvin has stated over and over that it was his decision. We should respect that.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Tom Lindley, CBA
"I have known Alvin Williams for 15 years. He has been a department chair for 17-18 years. He has been put on way too many university committees in addition to his responsibilities as chair. He teaches class and still manages to publish. He has a family and he is active in his church. He has been stretched too thin for some time and I have felt for some time that he may have to stop some of his activities. I do not see any benefit to the Dean or Associate Dean to have Alvin step down, indeed it will increase their work. In the spirit of fair play, I feel that we should let this topic die. Alvin has stated over and over that it was his decision. We should respect that."

I have worked with Professor Alvin Williams for twenty five years and would like to echo you sentiments. He has earned our respsect.

Date: Apr 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Stir it up
"IF this were true, it would require the participation of Dr. Williams in a scheme by the dome to weaken the College of Business. Anyone who knows the integrity of Dr. Williams would find this hard to believe. Dr. Williams could have the dean's job, the provost's job, and maybe even the interim presidency for the asking so thinking he could be bought or threatened by this administration is ludicrous. As I posted above, "His resignation was certainly not 'forced' - just more #$&@ from those who like to stir the crackpot-filled CoB crockpot.""

Stir - Based upon my understanding of the stature and reputation of Dr. Williams - your comment above is absolutely on target. Those that I know in CoB have said that all it would take would be a small, tiny, hint - and Dr. Williams could have virtually any position on this campus (Provost on down). Based upon that, to think that there is some forced resignation is "crazy talk".

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