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Date: Mar 5, 2005

Looks like the Snakes are about to commit suicide

Date: Mar 5, 2005

This works on mine.

1) Select and copy the URL.

2) Click on the link icon, which is the next to the last in the row of items in the "Comment" line.

3) Hit control + v.

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050305 /NEWS01/503050301/1002

Voila.

Date: Mar 5, 2005

This story was already linked on another thread.

Can you explain the reasoning behind your thread name?

Date: Mar 6, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: How to hot link
"This story was already linked on another thread.
Can you explain the reasoning behind your thread name?"

Thanks for the tutorial on hot linking!

Sorry about the "double" link post - I was so incensed when I read the article that I did not read any of the other topics, I just put it out there.

Why are the Snakes (SFT & Friends) committing suicide? Since there's so many "negative" news articles, chatrooms, board posts, etc., they are now attempting to throw some "positive" out there in an effort to boost him up. Look at how desperate they have become. Calling a "special" meeting by "invitation only" - stressing that SFT himself is not invited - in order to bolster SFT's views and positions. This is an attempt by a few to pass themselves off as a majority. And do they honestly expect us to believe that SFT or someone in the Henchcrew didn't "float" this idea to the organizers of this farce?

Not in my lifetime.

Date: Mar 6, 2005

Gnome Watcher,

That's what I thought you meant.

As Amy Young has mentioned in another thread, it's contrary to the SACS principles for any one person or constituency to exert undue influe on the governing board of a university.

Everyone who plans to attend that meeting should be asked, "Do you know who Bobby Lowder is?"

Chances are they have no idea how Auburn got into trouble with SACS.

Robert Campbell

Date: Mar 7, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Robert Campbell
"Gnome Watcher,
That's what I thought you meant.
As Amy Young has mentioned in another thread, it's contrary to the SACS principles for any one person or constituency to exert undue influe on the governing board of a university.
Everyone who plans to attend that meeting should be asked, "Do you know who Bobby Lowder is?"
Chances are they have no idea how Auburn got into trouble with SACS.
Robert Campbell"

Robert,

Please forgive my ignorance, but I have no idea how Auburn got into trouble with SACS!

Be that as it may, most of us who lived in NITChampBurg for any length of time quickly came to realize who the "power players" at USM were, both the up front one's and those behind the scenes. It very well may be possible that some of these nebulous links will be exposed by the SACS debacle, which might just explain why SFT is backing down and bowing whenever the issue comes up, all the while maintaining that this "will be taken care of" and "is not that much of a concern." Thames has been around USM for a very long time now, and surely has his paint-stained fingers dipped into and stirring quite a number of pots right now. He could face a truly university-shattering removal of USM's SACS accreditation if some of these links were to be exposed, thus it looks like it's time for him to cash in some of his old markers.

Wa-La. Instant bidness-community meeting, absent Thames, for the purpose of finding (if possible) and publically embelishing all of the "positive" things that have happened since SFT & Henchcrew took control. Don't be surprised if Klumb & Cronies are in attendence, if not in person, then vicariously through "interested" third-parties who "somehow" obtain invitations to this most-exclusive non-event.

The problem is, these people have yet to figure out that true publicity is their WORST enemy. Every time the light has been shined in their direction, they have been forced to withdraw like Dracula shying away from a silver cross. The Enrollment Scam. The Glamser/Stringer Affair. Devorak-gate. The USN&WR Tier Drop. The SACS Sanction. It reads like a list from a bad murder-mystery.

Let them have their meeting. Let them once-again draw attention to themselves, allowing any who are interested to start asking even more questions. And remember, if there's one thing that journalists really hate, it's a meeting that they are told they can't attend. Tends to make them dig even harder.

Let the snakes once again bite their own tails.

Date: Mar 7, 2005

quote:

Originally posted by: Gnome Watcher
" Robert, Please forgive my ignorance, but I have no idea how Auburn got into trouble with SACS!"

See http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/opinion/other/040201.shtml for starters.

Date: Mar 7, 2005

and also http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/041208/au.shtml

Date: Mar 7, 2005

Look carefully at this excerpt from the newspapers referenced above. Seem familiar?

"Before getting down to specific cases, I need to make clear that Auburn University's problems are not unique. Southern state universities are notoriously political. That's one reason they are not more highly regarded academically.

In Alabama the situation is even worse, reflecting a long pattern of meddling going back at least to George Wallace's administration where faculties were considered adolescent mill hands who should be kept quiet and do what they were told, trustees were chosen on the basis of political loyalty and agreed to serve because of the considerable power and perks the office provided them, and presidents understood that raising money for Wallace's campaigns was as important to their success as building endowments.

Calling such a system trusteeship — whereby public-spirited citizens make informed, disinterested decisions on behalf of the best interests of the state — is to make a mockery of the term.

The result of this practice is everywhere apparent.

In the year 2000, the universities of Alabama, Auburn and South Alabama spent $77,000 flying trustees to sporting events, vacations and other nonessential functions.

Made in secret

Open public meetings became little more than occasions to announce policies already hammered out in secret. Faculty was excluded from even token participation.

Battles between trustee factions or among faculty, trustees, and administrators crippled Alabama State, Alabama A&M, University of North Alabama, University of West Alabama, as well as Auburn, South Alabama, UAB, and The University of Alabama. All in all, the state's universities are mostly governed by politically motivated trustee systems more worthy of third-world banana republics than a state desperately trying to marshal inadequate resources in order to modernize its economy and improve its public life."

Date: Mar 7, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: astonished
"All in all, the state's universities are mostly governed by politically motivated trustee systems more worthy of third-world banana republics than a state desperately trying to marshal inadequate resources in order to modernize its economy and improve its public life.""

There was a time in the history of the University of Mississippi's medical school when it offered only the first two years of the program leading to an M.D. The University of Tennessee's medical school offered the remainder of the program and awarded the degree.

Similarly, some states did not feel they had sufficient resources to support a school of veterinary medicine, and they hooked up with another state and offered a joint program.

If Mississippi has neither the resources nor the motivation to maintain a good system of higher education, perhaps all of our public universities should be phased out and qualified students "farmed out" to another state who might willing to do the job right. It worked with medicine, and it worked with veterinary medicine.