He's the Mann - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Mar 4, 2005

RE: He's the Mann

Date: Mar 4, 2005

By fiat, promote and tenure all the assistant professors who run our world class programs and then hire their graduate students and bring them in as tenured professors as well. That's a way to short circuit the academics and immediately build up a one of a kind program.

Date: Mar 4, 2005

Didn't see your post Stinky, thanks for your clarification and sorry for my sarcasm.

Date: Mar 4, 2005

I'm not all that sorry for my sarcasm...why does a preseident need this authority to bypass the normal tenure process? isn't tenure awarded by the department...based on the faculty member's record? what possible reason is there to bypass this evaluation...unless you want to award tenure to people who could not earn it?

Date: Mar 4, 2005

for those interested here's the link to the relevant board minutes.

http://www.ihl.state.ms.us/admin/downloads/BdDec04.pdf

Date: Mar 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Outside Observer
"what possible reason is there to bypass this evaluation...unless you want to award tenure to people who could not earn it?"

You got it exactly right. This is, in fact, the point.

Date: Mar 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Outside Observer
"So....the President can simply award tenure at his discretion...new hires won't have to earn tenure...sort of like honorary tenure isn't it? Hmmm...maybe he plans to award honorary doctorates to his cronies and then award them tenure and populate the faculty and administration with his people. Hundreds of mini-me gnomes all over campus"

$$$--> On-Line PhD in Economic Development = Honorary Doctorate --> Honorary Tenure

Date: Mar 4, 2005

Stinky . . . just read the Board's minutes and their chnages.

As I read it . . . it seems possible that someone who has previous service in an academic post but is acting as an administrator could be given tenure . . . .

This seems rational in those administrator's who have an academic home . . . which is generally the practice. Is it anywhere stipulated that administrators must have an academic home base?

I think you see where i am going with this.

Date: Mar 4, 2005

stephen--i don't really know. those on the academic side, i assume do have to have a home. those on the non-academic side, i don't know. when i came here eons ago those on the non-academic side, like joe paul, did not have tenure because they did not have an academic home. lucas made sure people like joe got an academic appointment and i assume he has tenure.

Date: Mar 4, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: stinky cheese man
"stephen--i don't really know. those on the academic side, i assume do have to have a home. those on the non-academic side, i don't know. when i came here eons ago those on the non-academic side, like joe paul, did not have tenure because they did not have an academic home. lucas made sure people like joe got an academic appointment and i assume he has tenure."

Me thinks that some of those assignments to the various departments may have been done randomly.