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Date: Feb 23, 2005

ED to take over world

Date: Feb 23, 2005

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050223/NEWS01/502230325/1002

Here is the website for today's HA story.

Amy Young

Date: Feb 23, 2005

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050223/NEWS01/502230325/1002

Date: Feb 23, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: HA=Ha! 2/23
"See the latest in the online HA on the ED program, article by KW. Malone and Co. talk like they are here to stay at least through 2015."

Hmmm... Then Shelby will be president until he's 80 years old? I can't imagine that KM would last that long with his patchwork job description without SFT in the driver's seat...

Date: Feb 23, 2005

Anyone ever heard of this program before? Talk about a way to circumvent accreditation standards in the Business College.

From the article:

Classes in the executive master of science degree in economic development program, which began last year, involve "in-person" meetings at off-campus sites. In addition to the Gulf Park campus, meetings in 2005 will also be held at George Mason University in Washington, D.C., and at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, N.C.

Date: Feb 23, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Angeline
"From the article: Classes in the executive master of science degree in economic development program, which began last year, involve "in-person" meetings at off-campus sites. In addition to the Gulf Park campus, meetings in 2005 will also be held at George Mason University in Washington, D.C., and at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, N.C."

Meetings? When I was in high school we had field trips. When I was in graduate school we had classes. When I taught in graduate school we had seminars. When I was in industry we had meetings.

Oh yes, USM's as yet undisclosed plan is the corporate university model...

Date: Feb 23, 2005

Malone on the College of Business in today's HA article: "Their business model is to run their operation off tuition dollars," Malone said. "They don't do grants, they don't do a significant number of contracts, they pretty much teach and publish basic research but very seldom does anybody pay (the college) to do the research."

I think having the COO of the USM-GC campus and a professor?!?! make this sort of derisive comment in the newspaper is a perfect example of contumacious behavior. Given Toots Malone's rapid ascension in the academic world, I can't help wondering if a review is warranted in his case.

Date: Feb 23, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Angeline
"Anyone ever heard of this program before? Talk about a way to circumvent accreditation standards in the Business College. From the article: Classes in the executive master of science degree in economic development program, which began last year, involve "in-person" meetings at off-campus sites. In addition to the Gulf Park campus, meetings in 2005 will also be held at George Mason University in Washington, D.C., and at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, N.C."

let's go anywhere but boring a$$ Mississippi! We'll go to real schools!

Date: Feb 24, 2005

Malone: "Economic development is increasingly technology-driven, involves workforce training and an alignment with the College of Science and Technology 'made sense.'"

Clarion Ledger 2/24: "Economics Incentives Bill Dies. A $24 million package of incentives to lure high-tech companies to Mississippi died Wednesday when the House failed to consider the bill."

Date: Feb 24, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Contumacious Behavior
"Malone on the College of Business in today's HA article: "Their business model is to run their operation off tuition dollars," Malone said. "They don't do grants, they don't do a significant number of contracts, they pretty much teach and publish basic research but very seldom does anybody pay (the college) to do the research." I think having the COO of the USM-GC campus and a professor?!?! make this sort of derisive comment in the newspaper is a perfect example of contumacious behavior. Given Toots Malone's rapid ascension in the academic world, I can't help wondering if a review is warranted in his case."

I know, it's quite amazing, isn't it? That's how you know that Ken Malone is no academician!

Date: Feb 24, 2005

Don't all of you just hate it when something good is written about your university?

Date: Feb 24, 2005

Master's degrees in economic development:

2002: 7 degrees awarded and 17 students enrolled

2003:10 degrees awarded and 20 students enrolled

2004: 15 degrees awarded and 30 students enrolled

Source: State College Board
http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050224/NEWS01/502240333/1002

Student credit hours in economic development:
Spring 2004: 82 credit hours generated and 9.1 full time equivalents

Fall 2003: 103 credit hours generated and 11.5 full time equivalents

(Full time equivalent = a graduate student with 9 hours in a semester)

Source: USM PeopleSoft

Date: Feb 24, 2005

So the HA article was using headcount. Somebody taking one course counts as a student. Real enrollment uses FTE Check my math, but there's not much full time work going on. Disingenuous, or somebody just forgot to explain??

Date: Feb 24, 2005

And they get a building?

Date: Feb 24, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Machiavelli
"Don't all of you just hate it when something good is written about your university?"

Machiavellii, If you know how things are getting better, post it on the thread established for that purpose: USM: Progress Report.