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Ray Folse

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Below is an email I received today.


Ray,


 Here is an interesting story from Iowa. Given the use
of  the foundation at USM and the manner in which
Foundation employees are USM employees, and that
they are located on campus, it may well be performing
"government" functions as well.
I wonder what an open look at the foundationn records
would reveal?

Bill


"Iowa Court Rules Iowa State University Foundation Records Must Be Open

The Iowa Supreme Court ruled today that the Iowa State University Foundation
must open its records to public scrutiny. "We hold the Iowa State University
Foundation...is performing a government function, and therefore its records
are subject to disclosure," Justice Michael Streit wrote for the court.

The ruling appears to have ended a long battle by public records advocates
to get the multimillion-dollar foundation to open its records. The ruling
overturns a September 2002 district court ruling in favor of the foundation.
Arlen Nichols, 75, a retired Des Moines businessman, and Mark Gannon, 47, a
former university employee, sued to force the ISU Foundation to open its
records.The pair want the $295.3 million ISU foundation to be subject to the
open-records law.
In opposing the move, the foundation argued it is not a public entity and it
no longer operates on campus. Officials said the foundation is a non-profit,
fee-for-service organization similar to other private companies that have
business arrangements with schools.


Read the full story from Des Moines Register, Feb. 4, 2005"



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Invictus

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Originally posted by: Ray Folse's friend Bill

"I wonder what an open look at the foundationn records would reveal?"


Just speculatin' but I bet if one went back far enough, one would know why Aubrey Lucas didn't outright fire Thames in the '80s & why he remains silent today as the university he worked so hard to build up is systematically destroyed. One would also know exactly how much the presidency of the University of Southern Mississippi costs.

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Old timer

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Originally posted by: Invictus
" Just speculatin' but I bet if one went back far enough, one would know why Aubrey Lucas didn't outright fire Thames in the '80s & why he remains silent today as the university he worked so hard to build up is systematically destroyed. One would also know exactly how much the presidency of the University of Southern Mississippi costs."


 


Good point.  And something I've wondered about for the last year.






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Rigor Mortis

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Invictus, the secret non-public manner in which such university-related foundations are run is the reason that I will make sure that, when I am in the cold, cold ground, none of my remaining worldly resources will be available to those sorts of enterprises. If anything, my obituary would say . . . "in lieu of sending the foundation money, send them flowers!"

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Rob Peter, Pay Paul

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Originally posted by: Rigor Mortis

"Invictus, the secret non-public manner in which such university-related foundations are run is the reason that I will make sure that, when I am in the cold, cold ground, none of my remaining worldly resources will be available to those sorts of enterprises. If anything, my obituary would say . . . "in lieu of sending the foundation money, send them flowers!""

There is an issue that goes beyond the "open records" matter: If a donor writes a check to "The University of Southern Mississippi," say for $500,000, is it actually legal for the university to give those to a private entity such as a private foundation? If so, that means the university could convey it directly to Colonel Saunders KFC, doesn't it? Is that anything akin to what is referred to as "laundering" money? I guess not, or they wouldn't be doing it.

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And snuggle up with Mary

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Originally posted by: Rob Peter, Pay Paul

" If a donor writes a check to "The University of Southern Mississippi," say for $500,000, is it actually legal for the university to give those to a private entity such as a private foundation? "

A donor would be instructed from the git-go to write the check to the USM Foundation, not to USM.  Believe me, folks don't just show up with the check already cut.

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Benefactor

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Originally posted by: And snuggle up with Mary

"A donor would be instructed from the git-go to write the check to the USM Foundation, not to USM.  Believe me, folks don't just show up with the check already cut."

In making contributions to my college alma maters (one undedgraduate, two graduate), I have always make the check out to the school itself. It always cleared the bank. And twice I showed up with the check already cut.

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Invictus

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quote:
Originally posted by: Rigor Mortis

"Invictus, the secret non-public manner in which such university-related foundations are run is the reason that I will make sure that, when I am in the cold, cold ground, none of my remaining worldly resources will be available to those sorts of enterprises. If anything, my obituary would say . . . "in lieu of sending the foundation money, send them flowers!""


The only contributions I make to a college foundation are designated for a specific scholarship fund. I would never contribute "unrestricted funds" to a university foundation.

Foundations became extremely popular in the 1980s as college presidents discovered that the quasi-private entities allowed them to circumvent their regular boards of trustees' control. I can't speak for USM's organization -- mainly because clicking the "Board of Directors" link on the Foundation website leads to this page, but if USM is like the others I've checked out, the president of the institution sits on the board of directors & the other directors are essentially hand-picked.





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Accounting Alum

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Has anyone requested information from the foundation and if they did not receive it file a complaint with the Internal Revenue Service.  Foundations in general fall under the "monitoring" of the IRS and typically are setup as a non-profit.  As such there are "public access" requirements that must be met.


Accounting Alum that is sad to see USM's fall into darkness.


 



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ram

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I think the president is an ex facto member of the USM Foundation board. The other members are indeed hand picked, not so much by the pres as by the existing board.  But the net result is pretty much the same. The idea is usually to get board members with money who will be inclined to donate or cultivate other donors.


Regarding donations to USM or to the USM Foundation, I expect most donors of significant amounts give through the Foundation.  If someone contributed the $500,000 mentioned a few posts back, that would be a home run for one of the young development officers and even a solid double for one of the old hands. 


FWIW, I once was a member of the Cousteau Society. On a whim, I made my membership check payable to Jacques Cousteau, thinking that he would have to personally endorse it, and I would have his autograph.  My check ran through the society's account right along with all the hundreds of others. Just because a donor (especially of a few hundred or less) makes the check payable to USM does not necessarily mean it goes through USM's books.  For that matter, when I buy my season tickets to the USM Summer Arena Theater, I get a thank you note from Tim Ryan in the USM Foundation.  Go figure.



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Slush fund

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Originally posted by: ram

 For that matter, when I buy my season tickets to the USM Summer Arena Theater, I get a thank you note from Tim Ryan in the USM Foundation.  Go figure.

I believe that at one time special foundation accounts were set up for faculty members who generated outside income. The generated revenue in those accounts could be used for the faculty member's travel and other things. Is that still permitted?

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