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Seems this Wolf doesn't have sheeps clothing. Raiding the hen house is about to happen.

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Aren't there several openings already listed on the HR web site?

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Think money (1 Million+), not positions (although they are money also).

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The million is for software to replace what they currently have (PeopleSoft).  It is not the software you use but how you use it that makes  a successful application.

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The million is for software to replace what they currently have (PeopleSoft). It is not the software you use but how you use it that makes a successful application.



I clearly remember the trauma of the switch over to PeopleSoft and had wondered how it had performed over the years.    Are there still problems?

 



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No system is 'easy' and that is what they want.  The failure of a system is usually the lack of 'work' and commitment on the users part.  Any endeavor is only as good as you are committed to make it.

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I was around during the latter stages of the switch from Bull to PeopleSoft; in fact, a big part of my last year in CEd was involved with the switch from paper-based systems to PS. If I recall, PS was all that was available at the time that was remotely practical, and it didn't work the best. I was gone by the time the web-based PS came along and no doubt in the ensuing years better systems have been developed.

However, I recall many people working VERY hard to get PS implemented. The USM campus is populated with many people who want what is best for the school and the students, and are willing to put forth the necessary work and commitment.

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There was no disrepect intended to those that endured the conversion and implementation to PS.  They are now very pleased with the capabilities of their respectives systems and they have earned much respect. 'MY' observation was to a specific area and its leadership not understanding the commitment that must be made regardless of a systems advertised bells and whistles.  The marketing hype and the reality of any system are worlds apart.

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LVN Wrote:

"I was around during the latter stages of the switch from Bull to PeopleSoft; in fact, a big part of my last year in CEd was involved with the switch from paper-based systems to PS. If I recall, PS was all that was available at the time that was remotely practical, and it didn't work the best. I was gone by the time the web-based PS came along and no doubt in the ensuing years better systems have been developed."

As a former member of the Faculty Senate Technology Committee at that time, the termination of the Honeywell Bull was framed in "Year2K Hysteria," on the line of "nothing will work anymore, so we have to hurry and switch." There was a competitor to People$oft, but Horace Fleming's hand-selected Chief Technology Officer declared that "Banner doesn't work, but PeopleSoft does, and it will be cheaper than trying to write in-house code." It was only later that we discovered that both Ole Miss and State did their own in-house software development, and that the Technology Officer was a paid consultant to PeopleSoft. Horace Fleming lost his last faculty support at a meeting in CLA, where the question about paying for new PeopleSoft modules every year revealed that "we can't 'quit at a stable configuration' but have to acquire every new module revision as it is released."

Then again, this is now a long time ago, so my memory may be faulty.

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I was a member of the tech staff, and you are not correct.  PS was the only real option, and MSU and OLD Miss did not write their own programs; they went with a different system.  McGowan had no relationship with PS.  In fact, he was consulting for the competition.  As for CLA and the support of that tech system, most of those folks did not have a clue what was going on.  We did not even have a fiber-optic backbone until Fleming spent the money to get it done, and we did remarkable things with wireless, being among the first in the nation to implement a successful system.  So, you have sold your colleagues in TECH Services short.  You, in fact, do not have the insight to tell this story, with respect.

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Having worked with BULL, PeopleSoft, and now SOAR; any software is only as good as the administrators will let it be.  I remember all of the fussing about PeopleSoft.  The majority of the complaints were because people do not like change and have a tendency to refuse change. 

The Foundation has been needing an overhaul for some time now.  But it is more than a software change that has been needed.  I have been on campus for more than 11 years and problems in the Foundation have been a constant.

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Fascinating how people who have only 1/20th of the information can tell the whole story!  Absolutely, bone-chilling amazing!  But that is the story of Southern.  Give a few misguided fans and alums a little information and they will build an epic out of it.

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Bomlet wrote:

Fascinating how people who have only 1/20th of the information can tell the whole story!  Absolutely, bone-chilling amazing!  But that is the story of Southern.  Give a few misguided fans and alums a little information and they will build an epic out of it.



Bomlet--

I wonder whether anyone ever has the whole story on anything, at Southern or elsewhere.  Perhaps you would like to share the correct information with us, epic or otherwise.  At least from your point of view.



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I just have one observation to offer overall.  MS State and OLD Miss (as I like to refer to that school) almost let USM get ahead of them in the late 1990s, but they managed to subvert us, with a lot of help from our own people.  Today, we are third, if not fourth.  That's the way they wanted it; that's the way they got it.  They screwed us when we stood up on our hind legs and bucked the system because we were last in student per capita funding and because we were getting screwed.  Actually, we never had any technology until we got it in the late 1990s and we did not even have a fiber network in the ground which was necessary to do everything else.  We were way behind, but when we caught up--well, they screwed us, and we had a lot of help from our own people.  Thanks, Shelby, and thanks to those misguided alumni who like to say how much they give to Southern.

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When the new president at State did not work out, he was gone in two years. The IHL let the bleeding at USM go on for five years.

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When the new president at State did not work out, he was gone in two years. The IHL let the bleeding at USM go on for five years.



But the USM situation preceeded that at State; the IHL was already in alert mode vis-a-vis the circs at State BECAUSE of those at USM.  And the IHL board had experienced a significant change in personnel, i.e., Clumb left.  And the "new" IHL board under new leadership had hired a stronger, arguably more competent executive officer. (Who says you can't compare apples and oranges?)

I still think the "red-headed stepchild" metaphor is more accurate than an actual conspiracy theory. I would advert to Camus, but I'm afraid "benign indifference" may be an oxymoron.



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Yes, an oxymoron kind of like "friendly fire" - and, ultimately, just as lethal!

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ram wrote:

 

I still think the "red-headed stepchild" metaphor is more accurate than an actual conspiracy theory. I would advert to Camus, but I'm afraid "benign indifference" may be an oxymoron.

 




 Well, you know which side of the conspiracy theory argument I come down on! biggrin



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