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Date: Jan 17, 2005

RE: RE: Student Printz

Date: Jan 17, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: on the sidelines, reading the press
"For your comparison reading persual (I specifically chose public universities in the Deep South for a sample): http://www.thedmonline.com/ The Daily Mississippian (Ole Miss student paper) http://www.reflector-online.com/ The Reflector (MSU student paper) http://www.muw.edu/spectator/ The Spectator (MUW student paper) http://www.lsureveille.com/ The Reveille (LSU student paper) http://www.cw.ua.edu/ The Crimson-White (Univ. of AL student paper) For a directory of members of the Associated Collegiate Press (ACP), which gives out the student-equivalent of Pulitzers, visit www.studentpress.org. The Daily Mississippian, I should add, was a finalist for their award this past year, as was my own college's newspaper. "

The Daily Mississippian (Ole Miss student paper)

The Reflector (MSU student paper)

The Spectator (MUW student paper)

The Reveille (LSU student paper)

The Crimson-White (Univ. of AL student paper)

Date: Jan 17, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: ****ed Incognegro
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Ain't it funny how the one with all the answers is the one with the least amount of correct information. Not to mention completely lacking in assuming any personal responsibility to correct a problem rather than point fingers towards who is to blame. Tsk, tsk....I thought the other topics of this board would have taught that lesson already."

Hmmmm . . . . lets see here . . .

First, at least I ADMIT that I do not have complete information on the subject. Please note that I not only thanked Robbie Ward for his comments, but I also invited more from him. He, and others like him who are well versed in journalism and/or computing skills, are the ones who can make the best suggestions as to how to solve this issue. Does an admitted lack of complete knowledge on a subject mean that someone cannot make suggestions, perhaps spurring on others who are more knowledgeable to make better ones? Also, please note that I did NOT say that I had all of the answers. I DID say that I had some suggestions.

Secondly, someone IS responsible for this issue, whether it be SFT, the Administration in general, the Printz editor or staff members, or the journalism professors who advise them. I am not suggesting that they be tarred, feathered, and quartered. I AM suggesting that they do everything in their power to correct it. I am also aware that they may ALREADY be in the process of doing this, but the sad truth is that we do not know that at this point. Thus, the thread we are currently reading.

Thirdly, as far as personal responsability goes, please note that I did say that I would happily volunteer my time and expertise if I were able to. I do not live in Hattiesburg, nor do I have any great skill with computers or web sites. However, were I able to, I would still volunteer. Would you, ****ed Incognegro?

Date: Jan 17, 2005

Bravo Wondering.

Although I am pretty much computer illiterate, my roommates are geniuses. Building a website is as easy as tying their shoelaces. Problem is, they really don't care about political issues around campus and hardly read the Printz unless I bring one to them. Plenty of students my age have the know how but not the will. I can guaruntee that if they job were a paid one, these X-generation computer geeks would spring from the woodworks. There must be a way to get this job made into a work-study job, and it could be posted at school. I normally do not like to point fingers, but it is hard to believe the Printz staff or faculty sponsors have not been able to figure out this problem given the amout of time they have had.

No Quarter

Date: Jan 17, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Robbie Ward
"Does everything have to be Thames' fault? So the campus newspaper hasn't been on-line in forever, does it have to mean Thames is the blame? No, I do not believe that the campus newspaper should go without a Web site for months. However, I also know that when problems happened, and ask almost anyone who worked with me, when I was editor of the Student Printz, Thames wasn't to blame. "

Mr. Ward, it is good of you to take responsibilty for your time as editor; however, I would respectfully disagree. I can think of three reasons why it is SFT's fault that the Printz has been off-line for six months or so.

Once, a major component of faculty responsiblity was service. Faculty would have been encouraged and rewarded for helping the student newpaper. That time is no more; service is a component of faculty responsibility in name only, having been effectively superseded by economic development.

Whether the $100,000 channeled to the Varsity Voice would have otherwise gone to the Printz is really a question of priority. It is obvious that the president's priority is propaganda, not journalism. Would $100,000 buy enough professional assistance to get the Printz on-line? You betcha.

This is a president who surrounds himself with toadies. When he says jump, they ask how high and seek permission to return to earth. If he recognized the value of having a student publication available via a delivery system that is now commonplace amongst 21st century institutions of learning, he could speak the word and the Printz would be available on-line in 48 hours or less.

I think it was gracious of you to absolve Shelby Thames in this regard, but your grace is wasted.

Date: Jan 17, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Joker
"This is not a fair comparison. Those other schools have a much larger percentage of students who can read and write. "

http://jschool.troyst.edu/~trop/trop97-oct-30/tropnews.html (Troy State)
http://www.theapp.appstate.edu/archives_04-05/05-1-13/index.html (Appalachian State)
http://www.thevistaonline.com/ (Univ. of Central Oklahoma)
http://www.latech.edu/techtalk/index.php (Louisiana Tech)
http://pacer.utm.edu/ (UT-Martin)

and for your reading pleasure:
http://www.hilite.org/ (Carmel, Indiana High School)
http://www.crimsonchronicle.yazoocity.ms/ (yazoo City High School)
http://home.centurytel.net/ophs/ (Ouachita Parish High, Monroe, LA)
http://dir.yahoo.com/Education/K_12/Newspapers/Individual_School_Papers/ (a whole page of links to high schools with online newspapers. Maybe one of them would like to help out a fourth tier, Carnegie Extensive Research University student newspaper?)

http://www.studyworld.com/college_newspapers_online.htm (a partial list of college newspapers online)