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Date: Dec 27, 2004

RE: RE: Economic Development

Date: Dec 27, 2004

Mark Miller is one of the good guys. He was one of the nine deans fired by Thames in the reorganization of the colleges. His wife is also on the facsen.......they are good people who've been hurt by Thames and his administration.

NO QUARTER!

Date: Dec 27, 2004

Puzzled and Let Freedom Ring,

Thank you for the detailed information about the Economic Development program.

What was Mark Miller's discipline before he became Dean (for that matter, while he was Dean) of the College of Business?

And where can I find confirmation that Economic Development is expected in the future to be handling 50 or 60 dissertations per faculty member?

It doesn't surprise me that the new college affiliations of the masters and doctoral programs seem to be meaningless. The Web pages still put Economic Development in "CBED," and I'm willing to bet that the false claims about AACSB accreditation won't be taken down any time soon.

Robert Campbell

Date: Dec 27, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Robert Campbell
"I'm willing to bet that the false claims about AACSB accreditation won't be taken down any time soon. Robert Campbell"

Robert,

What possible effect could accreditation from AACSB or SACS (or NCATE or anyone else for that matter) have on USM? Once you are wurl' class, who can take it away from you?

I'm feeling cheeky this morning, clearly. Wish my back would cooperate with my mood.

DJ

Date: Dec 27, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Robert Campbell
"Puzzled and Let Freedom Ring, Thank you for the detailed information about the Economic Development program. What was Mark Miller's discipline before he became Dean (for that matter, while he was Dean) of the College of Business? And where can I find confirmation that Economic Development is expected in the future to be handling 50 or 60 dissertations per faculty member? It doesn't surprise me that the new college affiliations of the masters and doctoral programs seem to be meaningless. The Web pages still put Economic Development in "CBED," and I'm willing to bet that the false claims about AACSB accreditation won't be taken down any time soon. Robert Campbell"

RC,

You must have misunderstood. Mark Miller is a geographer and was Dean of a college that no longer exists (International Studies?) His affiliation with the Business school was because he was part of ED when it moved into the business school (turning it into CBED) after the reorganization in January 2003. All the business faculty I know like and respect him and were sorry to see him leave when ED moved back out.

PO'd (Yes, that too!)

Date: Dec 27, 2004

Mark Miller became Dean of International and Continuing Education after the promotion of Hudson to Provost. He was my boss very briefly. As I recall, he was well-liked by the people in Continuing Ed, who were happy to have him in charge. Continuing Ed was the red-haired stepchild of the college under TH, and we got the impression that MM took us more seriously. At least he did us the courtesy of acting like he took us more seriously.
Not long after I left, however, someone (not Miller as far as I know) had the brilliant idea of rearranging CEDL and demoting everyone -- for what purpose I have never understood.

Date: Dec 27, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: LVN
"Mark Miller became Dean of International and Continuing Education after the promotion of Hudson to Provost. He was my boss very briefly. As I recall, he was well-liked by the people in Continuing Ed, who were happy to have him in charge. Continuing Ed was the red-haired stepchild of the college under TH, and we got the impression that MM took us more seriously. At least he did us the courtesy of acting like he took us more seriously. Not long after I left, however, someone (not Miller as far as I know) had the brilliant idea of rearranging CEDL and demoting everyone -- for what purpose I have never understood. "

At the risk of starting a flame war and falling into the old "blame it on those no longer here game" (even when they deserve it) Mark Miller was dealt a raw deal by someone other than Shelby first.

Date: Dec 27, 2004

PO'd,

Sorry--I didn't realize that Mark Miller had been Dean of a different college, and that he came into "CBED" only with the Economic Development department.

Robert Campbell

Date: Dec 27, 2004

Sorry, not even Dean of a college, if I'm understanding Miller's former title right.

RC

Date: Dec 27, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Robert Campbell
"Sorry, not even Dean of a college, if I'm understanding Miller's former title right. RC"

The eggnog must be spiked. Mark Miller was Dean of a College, the name of which no one remembers exactly (International something), probably because the college no longer exists.

Date: Dec 27, 2004

The College of International and Continuing Education--sort of the catch all place.

Date: Dec 27, 2004

Mark Miller of ED is Mark Miller formerly of the Faculty Senate.

When Hudson became coast provost in July 2002, Miller moved up from associate dean to dean of the College of International and Continuing Education. Then in January 2003, with the college reorganization, Miller found himself returned to faculty status, an action that technically didn't occur until the reorganization kicked in in July 2003. So from July 2002 to June 2003, Miller was dean of CICE, though from January to June 2003 there wasn't much deaning to be done.

The history of CICE and its relationship to the Dept. of Geography, continuing education (CEDL), and international education (CIE) efforts are summarized in the 2001 graduate bulletin, www.usm.edu/registrar/catalogs2001/graduate/cice_123-130.pdf. Here's the relevant part:

In February 1991, the Center for International Education and the Division of Lifelong Learning were combined to form the College of International and Continuing Education. In September 1998, the academic Department of Geography was moved from Liberal Arts into the College, and a Department of Economic Development and Planning was established to house a MS program in Economic Development and a Ph.D. program in International Development. The College is an administrative entity under the Office of the Provost, and operationally divided into the two academic areas of economic development and planning and geography. The Center for International Education and the Department of Continuing Education and Distance Learning are also located in the college.

Editorial: Moving Geography into CICE was widely seen as a ploy to get something into CICE that could grant degrees. Up until that happened, CICE was generally viewed as an auxiliary support operation and its dean, Tim Hudson, as something less than the others of decanal rank.

Date: Dec 27, 2004

info,

You see, the punch wasn't spiked after all

When I saw the title Dean of International and Continuing Education, I thought of some kind of Vice-Provost level functionary, not the Dean of a college.

The Geography connection is also interesting.

Robert Campbell

Date: Dec 27, 2004

Hudson is a geographer--as is the only "unfired" dean, Kennth Panton of the Honors College.

Date: Dec 27, 2004

And to make it even more interesting...Mark's wife, Amy Chasteen Miller (a sociology professor, also a Faculty Senator) was in the running for the deanship of the Honors College a few years ago when Maureen Ryan, former dean, was "promoted" to Associate Provost for Institutional Planning (or whatever the SACS guru was called then). It's a small world at USM.

Date: Dec 28, 2004

I look for the "hire-our-own" philosophy to become even more entrenched here between SACS probation status and looming budget crisis. I wonder if the good citizenry of Hattiesburg realize that they are going to be needing some serious people in Economic Development if the engine that drives the Pine Belt's economy dries up. Where will those who knock the faculty and support the administration move when this place becomes a MS ghost town?