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Behind the Lines & Rachel:


Rachel I believe you have some good points.  However, I believe that this is one instance that Alumni know what's going on.  "Academic probation" pretty much says it all, and I know most alumni can identify with this serious phrase based on there experience in college and maybe their kids.  Furthermore, Shelby has blamed all the problems on faculty, at least privately.  And I have already talked to a few alumni that suggest this is some form or retribution for the attempted firings last year.  Yet, they also say that even if this is true, they are getting tired of the constant barrage (sp?) of fiascos that have occurred at USM under this admin (this is true for biggest shelby supporters).


BHTL, I can say nothing except, "I feel your pain."  Trust me I and a lot of people know how bad the situation is and are working to remedy the situation.  Remember, our degrees are decreasing in value with every fiasco.


Now, what can we as alumni do? Write letters to the editor of course, but the most effective route is to use influence.  Trust me, it is becoming harder for Shelby's supporters to be supporters because of his obvious inabilities.  Also, don't expect much from the official alumni association.  They are funded in large part through the university, at least administratively, to give the univerisity control over them.  Otherwise, I would image that the Alumni Assoc. would be all over this.  However, guys (Alumni reading this post) don't underestimate your influence on the IHL and executive Alumni Committee (which is composed of "outsiders").  They listen, with the exception of Klumb (he is the one that basically hired Shelby and has his ego to protect).


In any event, please get the Faculty Senate to call for another no confidence vote.  There is no better time, and it will focus the problem Shelby.  LET'S GET THIS IDIOT OUT OF THE DOME!



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Originally posted by: Retired prof
"I remember, Topple! Nice to see you back with us."

Thank you, Retired Prof.


USM President Shelby Thames said students won't be negatively impacted.


"The areas of concern do not have anything to do with faculty teaching," Thames said in the written statement. "This status does not in any way negatively affect our students and their education."


Hogwash!


Bad decision, lie, cover-up...repeat the cycle.  Who would have believed the same words would be as relevant today as they were eight months ago?



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Let Freedom Ring

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Originally posted by: Let the academics govern
" No one wanted this to happen; no one is glad that it happened.  At the same time, let it be the wake-up call to the IHL that Shelby Thames must go.  Let it be the wake-up call that the: appointment of Shelby Thames over the opposition of the faculty was not reorganization of the colleges was not inflated enrollment numbers was not vp's hyped credentials was not suspension of respected, tenured professors was not forced settlement at the hearings was not embarassing risk manager was not overwhelming faculty vote of no-confidence was not faculty senate resolution of no-confidence was not repeated cost of lawsuits was not inability to muster support for the bond issue was not constant hype, and spins, and lies was not rankings drop was not turnover of hundreds of faculty was not Certainly there are more examples but STUDENTS, PARENTS, ALUMNI, FRIENDS this is the one that should shake you from any lethargy and ambivalence.  This is not an internal power struggle; this is not a clash of strategies; this is not a disagreement about leadership styles; this is the academic future of your university.  If you havn't been involved before, then now is the time to make your voice heard and to say Shelby Thames must go.  Shelby Thames CANNOT solve this problem no matter what he promises to the IHL or to the media.  He cannot because he has shown himself to be unwilling to use the rich, but diminishing, resources within the university - the faculty leadership."

Beautifully posted!!!  Surely someone's got to start listening to us now ....  this is a window of opportunity that we cannot let slip by ..... it may be hopeful thinking but I really believe this could be it for Thames.


Invictus, I love the new sign off on your posts!

NO QUARTER NO QUARTER NO QUARTER!!!!!



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ram

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Originally posted by: USM Alum
"<snip> don't expect much from the official alumni association.  They are funded in large part through the university, at least administratively, to give the univerisity control over them.   <snip>  However, guys (Alumni reading this post) don't underestimate your influence on the IHL and executive Alumni Committee (which is composed of "outsiders").  They listen, . . .  LET'S GET THIS IDIOT OUT OF THE DOME!"

Here's a link to the Alumni Association website where the "outside" board of directors are listed.  Click on a member's name and you will find that member's e-mail address. 


http://www.southernmissalumni.com/cgi-any/newspages.dll/Teasers?sitename=smaa&pagegroup=Directory&htmlfile=newspages2_Directory.htm


For those who remember, Becky Montague (an Alumni Association Board Member) wrote a wonderful letter to the Hattiesburg American back during the G/S mess.



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Bittersweet

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Wasn't Southern Mess supposed to hold a press conference or something today?


Is there any news about Shelby's meeting with the IHL?


 



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stinky cheese man

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he held a press conference at 1:30. It was aired by WUSM. I assume highlights will be on TV. I didn't hear it so can't add anything about what was said.

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Newgirl

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http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041209/NEWS01/41209003


 "Probation could cost USM $500,000"



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Here's the press conference aired earlier today on WUSM: http://www.wusm.usm.edu/thames1209.ram

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www.wusm.usm.edu/thames1209.ram

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Or go here


http://www.usm.edu/wusm/


then scroll down to the press conference.  You'll need Real Player, but you can download for free.



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