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Herald

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Average IQ
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This was sent to me, and I'm sharing it for the IQ rankings - not for the political slant (but you can figure that in too if you want)


http://images.flabber.nl/imagepopup.php?width=824&height=1350&file=2004election_by_iq.jpg



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Kitty

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This was sent to me, and I'm sharing it for the IQ rankings - not for the political slant . . .

Even disregarding any political implications, it is highly unlikely that these data are anywhere close to being valid. The measuring instruments, cited at the bottom of the table, are rather obscure in this country. I doubt they have been validated in this culture, and I question the sampling procedure used (if there was an attempt to administer the tests to a representative sample). I'll bet nobody on this campus has even been administered those instruments. Perhaps the scores themselves to correlate with something, but probably not with the entire population of the respective states.


 



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Angeline

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That was funny, and , sadly, all too true in at least its general point. 

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Curmudgeon

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Anyone in education knows that states like Utah and South Dakota have better school test scores than New York or California. Also, it's the Democratic voters who seem to have difficulty finding their precinct and figuring out how to vote. Bush got the votes of 58% of college graduates. Kerry did better with felons and high school drop outs.

It's this sort of smugness that guarantees the Democrats will continue to struggle as a national party. Keep it up.

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Emma

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Well, I think that if MS got rid of the KY Cabal, a few Thames here or there, and a couple of IHL members - MS would be ranked in the top 10 percent!! Let them move to another state.

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Angeline

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"Anyone in education knows that states like Utah and South Dakota have better school test scores than New York or California. Also, it's the Democratic voters who seem to have difficulty finding their precinct and figuring out how to vote. Bush got the votes of 58% of college graduates. Kerry did better with felons and high school drop outs. It's this sort of smugness that guarantees the Democrats will continue to struggle as a national party. Keep it up."
If only standardized test scores correlated with IQ - they don't.  GWBush has a high IQ of around 135 and had average/low grades etc.  His high IQ fits with his home region of New England (Connecticut & Maine).  Naturally, there will be exceptions to the trend posited in the graph, but overall IQ does vary from region to region, though perhaps not as dramatically as the graph suggested. 

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Invictus

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If I disremember my history, the Stanford-Binet test was originally developed for screening military recruits in WWI. Even then, there was an illustrated version (now used for children who haven't yet learned to read) that was used for illiterates. Again, trying to remember something I read years ago, the test determined that the vast majority of Southern males were "mentally deficient."

Of course, the vast majority of Southern females probably agree that this conclusion was correct...

IQ is nothing but a reification of something (intelligence). Whether or not "intelligence" can or deserves to be reduced to a number is open to debate.

But please don't tell all those log haulers in Baxterville who voted for G.W. Bush that he has a 135 IQ & comes from the Northeast. They all think he's a dumba$$ from Texas. Which is why they voted for him!

Trivia: Bush & Kerry are something like 9th cousins. Miss Information told me that was not trivial, but I think it is

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Retired prof

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This whole thing is just another internet hoax. Google it and you can read the whole story.

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Mitch

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IQ and Robert Sternberg
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Enjoyed this give and take on intelligence. For all those interested in the notion of intelligence, please come to Dr. Robert Sternberg's talk (at 2 PM this Friday in Gonzalez I believe--please confirm with Susan King at 4177), as part of the Lee Hildman lecture series hosted by the department of psychology. Dr. Sternberg is a former president of the American Psychological Association, and one of the premier theorists on intelligence. I know that the term "world class" is tossed around loosely in this neck of the woods, but having Dr. Sternberg here is a true treat. Here is a link to his home page at Yale:


http://www.yale.edu/pace/teammembers/personalpages/bob.html



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View from a Distance

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Reminds me of what my grandfather said about southerners moving to the west coast during the depression - it raised the IQ of both regions.



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Retired prof

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".... For all those interested in the notion of intelligence, please come to Dr. Robert Sternberg's talk (at 2 PM this Friday in Gonzalez I believe--please confirm with Susan King at 4177), as part of the Lee Hildman lecture series hosted by the department of psychology. ..."

For any of you who were planning to come, Dr. Sternberg has a bad case of bronchitis and has had to cancel tomorrow's lecture. It will be rescheduled.


Jo



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Libraries Rule!

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Too bad about Dr. Sternberg...I searched "Academic Full-Text Premier" and read some of his work. He would have been worth the 75 mile trip. Below is an abstract of one of his recent articles.


Complexity Digest 2004.33 - 08

16-Aug-2004



Intelligence And Culture: How Culture Shapes What Intelligence Means, Phil. Tran.: Biol. Sc.Excerpts: This paper discusses the relationship between culture and intelligence. The main message of the paper is that intelligence cannot fully or even meaningfully be understood outside its cultural context. Behaviour that is considered intelligent in one culture may be considered unintelligent in another culture, and vice versa. Moreover, people in different cultures have different implicit (folk) theories of intelligence (...). The paper opens with a general discussion of issues regarding the relationship between the two concepts. It then describes the theory of successful intelligence, which motivates our work on the interface between culture and intelligence. Finally, the article draws some conclusions.



  • Source: Intelligence And Culture: How Culture Shapes What Intelligence Means, And The Implications For A Science Of Well-Being
    [ http://www.journals.royalsoc.ac.uk/app/home/contribution.asp?wasp=agxyymmrrg6kqr1tlyuh&referrer=parent&backto=issue,5,9;journal,1,101;linkingpublicationresults,1:102022,1 ], R. J. Sternberg, E. L. Grigorenko, DOI: 10.1098/rstb.2004.1514, Philosophical Transactions: Biological Sciences, 2004/08/11
  • Contributed by Pritha Das - prithadas01ayahoo.com


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