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Tinctoris

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A.D.

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she just sent in a "professional resume".
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But how was this an explanation? To what profession did she refer? For what profession would that resume not be misleading?

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Invictus

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For what profession would that resume not be misleading?
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Economic development, obviously! Of course, economic development is all about half-truths & hyperbole.

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stephen judd

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Robert:


 I think you are right when you imply many of us were "innocent" in dealing with these kinds of people. For too many of us, our first instinct was to "trust" -- and that instinct paralized us for a very long time before the events of March finally made the truth transparent.


I think I've said elsewhere (back on the old FS board for one) that we are dealing with a kind of "barbarian" psychology at work. I think of myself as reasonably cynical but that cynicism tends to apply itself towards certain kinds of people (politicians, televangelists, etc.) I should know better -- but it is extremely difficult for me to get used to the idea that the academy has been invaded by the Goths and Vandals of our time.


I hope you are following the latest town/gown news. I think there is some serious material for your blog on the way.


And for educator, reporter, stinky cheese man, RC, etc. -- thanks for the conversation. It is good to know that we are all still here. I go away for a while because I'm overhwlemed with work but then I come back and see that all of you are still "reporting for duty."


Best wishes to all.  


 



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KY Jolly

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As See More reminds us in this week's edition, we ARE rid of those 3 fools.

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Thankful for small favors

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"As See More reminds us in this week's edition, we ARE rid of those 3 fools."

Don't be foolish.  You most certainly are not.  They are, however, out of the chain of command as it relates to academic, legal, and hr decision-making and that is positive thing.

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Robert Campbell

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Stephen,

I didn't comment on the bond issue before the election because I'm not from the area and thought of it as an issue for Hattiesburg voters. Well, they did decide, and Thames' vengeful, imperious reaction to their decision is most remarkable.

USM is a state university, not a city university. I don't see why a Hattiesburg city bond issue (or the future city tax revenue that will repay the loan) ought to be going toward the construction or the upkeep of any portion of USM.

Clemson University is always looking for new sources of revenue, but to my knowledge CU has never tried to use local tax revenues (either from Clemson, or from the other surrounding communities, or Pickens County) to pay for anything at the university.

Maybe Thames thought he could emulate those major league sports franchises that expect cities (and their taxpayers) to buy them a new stadium?

Robert Campbell






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Wet Hen

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Originally posted by: Robert Campbell
"USM is a state university, not a city university. I don't see why a Hattiesburg city bond issue (or the future city tax revenue that will repay the loan) ought to be going toward the construction or the upkeep of any portion of USM."


This is probably the most intelligent remark that has been made during this entire bond fiasco. USM is indeed not a city university. It is a state university. It is the only state university in South Mississippi. If the state can't support all of its its eight public institutions of higher education, the solution is obvious. The IHL should demonstrate that it is capable of carrying out the mandate is has been given and begin to exert some leadership.



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" The IHL should demonstrate that it is capable of carrying out the mandate is has been given and begin to exert some leadership. "


The great educationists on the IHL board would probably do that by scaling the only state university in South Mississippi down to the only state college in South Mississippi.

Fortunately for USM, nobody on the IHL board (including the opthalmologists) has very much vision. If they had any "vision" & "leadership," USM would probably be hurting far more than it is now.

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stephen judd

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Originally posted by: Robert Campbell

"Stephen, I didn't comment on the bond issue before the election because I'm not from the area and thought of it as an issue for Hattiesburg voters. Well, they did decide, and Thames' vengeful, imperious reaction to their decision is most remarkable. USM is a state university, not a city university. I don't see why a Hattiesburg city bond issue (or the future city tax revenue that will repay the loan) ought to be going toward the construction or the upkeep of any portion of USM. Clemson University is always looking for new sources of revenue, but to my knowledge CU has never tried to use local tax revenues (either from Clemson, or from the other surrounding communities, or Pickens County) to pay for anything at the university. Maybe Thames thought he could emulate those major league sports franchises that expect cities (and their taxpayers) to buy them a new stadium? Robert Campbell "


Bob:


Lately the attempts to get money from everywhere/anywhere have begun to smack of desperation. I'll admit that this administration has been pretty creative in trying to figure out how to finance its projects . . . on the other hand the Trent Lott Center is beginning to look like the "Flying Dutchman" -- a ghost ship that never makes landfall. I don't know how many other ways there are to finance that building -- a little like Zeno's paradox: "the closer you get the further you are."


Gianinni's delcaration that USM would raise the funds on its own is just foolish. Even if the funds can get rasied that means that other porjects will get starved. There are only so many private resources in this part of the state. We still have buildings (including the new theatre building) that do not have names although naming gifts were part of what what anticipated to help underwrite their operation.


 



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Rumor

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Bob:
Lately the attempts to get money from everywhere/anywhere have begun to smack of desperation. ...
 
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I hear rumor that the raises were obtained by using “one time” money. That means that the $$$ won’t be there next year unless USM increases enrollment and grant funding to maintain the raises. This risk was taken knowing next year would be a critical year. Good luck to all.

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Googler

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" The salary may be $140K, but I suspect she is getting perks that would raise her total compensation package to at least what she was making at Southern Miss, maybe even more. For example, I think the ADP provided former head Gray Swoope with a car. Also, Angie is currently being paid as a professional consultant to the ADP. Once she joins the ADP, I wouldn't be surprised if SFT puts her on some sort of professional consultant contract at Southern Miss, which would boost her compensation. I don't believe for one minute that Angie took a cut in compensation."


Kicking this back because today's HA confirms that Angie will earn $140K in addition to a benefits package that includes a Trailblazer vehicle and membership to local clubs.


The HA also said that Angie has not yet billed the ADP for her professional consultant services to the organization.


"Moving Forward" also means "Moving Up" in total compensation for ADP2 (Angie Dvorak, President, Area Development Partnership).



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Emma

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Gotta go find the barf bag.  Maybe Angie's promorfication will allow me to lose a little weight.



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Chicken Soup Lady

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This afternoon a family member, not remotely connected to USM, looked at the Sunday HA and said, "Do I have to see her face EVERY SINGLE DAY?" So Emma, you are not the only one getting queasy!

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The Plot Sickens

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" Kicking this back because today's HA confirms that Angie will earn $140K in addition to a benefits package that includes a Trailblazer vehicle and membership to local clubs. The HA also said that Angie has not yet billed the ADP for her professional consultant services to the organization. "Moving Forward" also means "Moving Up" in total compensation for ADP2 (Angie Dvorak, President, Area Development Partnership)."

I could care less about Angie's compensation, unless tracing it to USM's commercialization roots proves to be illegal or unethical.  However, I am greatly bothered by the fact that in her new position she can further prop up the puppet dictator and his house of cards.

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Chronicler

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From Today's (11/18) Hirings and Firings Section of the Chronicle:


AFTER THE STORM:


Earlier this year Angeline G. Dvorak promised to sue anyone who questioned her academic background. The threat came after two professors at the University of Southern Mississippi, where Ms. Dvorak was vice president for research and economic development, accused her of overstating her credentials -- a charge she vehemently denied.

The dispute went national after the university's president, Shelby F. Thames, moved to fire the two tenured professors. A confidential settlement was reached, and the two professors have left the university.

At the time some professors on the campus questioned whether Ms. Dvorak would be able to continue in her role. So it was not a complete surprise when she recently announced that she was leaving Southern Mississippi to become the president of a nonprofit economic-development group in Hattiesburg, the university's home.

Ms. Dvorak did not return telephone calls requesting comment. A university spokeswoman says Ms. Dvorak's decision to leave had nothing to do with the controversy



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Disappointed in the Chronicle

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"From Today's (11/18) Hirings and Firings Section of the Chronicle:
AFTER THE STORM:
Earlier this year Angeline G. Dvorak promised to sue anyone who questioned her academic background. The threat came after two professors at the University of Southern Mississippi, where Ms. Dvorak was vice president for research and economic development, accused her of overstating her credentials -- a charge she vehemently denied.The dispute went national after the university's president, Shelby F. Thames, moved to fire the two tenured professors. A confidential settlement was reached, and the two professors have left the university.At the time some professors on the campus questioned whether Ms. Dvorak would be able to continue in her role. So it was not a complete surprise when she recently announced that she was leaving Southern Mississippi to become the president of a nonprofit economic-development group in Hattiesburg, the university's home. Ms. Dvorak did not return telephone calls requesting comment. A university spokeswoman says Ms. Dvorak's decision to leave had nothing to do with the controversy
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Not exactly accurate, is it? Use of the word "accused" -- implication that Thames was successful in the firing. They need to look back at their own story and see what AD really did.

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info

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And "confidential" is wide of the mark, too.

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Kickback

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Originally posted by: stephen judd

"Robert:  I think you are right when you imply many of us were "innocent" in dealing with these kinds of people. For too many of us, our first instinct was to "trust" -- and that instinct paralized us for a very long time before the events of March finally made the truth transparent. I think I've said elsewhere (back on the old FS board for one) that we are dealing with a kind of "barbarian" psychology at work. I think of myself as reasonably cynical but that cynicism tends to apply itself towards certain kinds of people (politicians, televangelists, etc.) I should know better -- but it is extremely difficult for me to get used to the idea that the academy has been invaded by the Goths and Vandals of our time. I hope you are following the latest town/gown news. I think there is some serious material for your blog on the way. And for educator, reporter, stinky cheese man, RC, etc. -- thanks for the conversation. It is good to know that we are all still here. I go away for a while because I'm overhwlemed with work but then I come back and see that all of you are still "reporting for duty." Best wishes to all.    "

Kick for potential link to Town 'n Gown post on today's "Excellent Letter" thread.

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