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Date: Aug 23, 2004

CBED staying the course

Date: Aug 23, 2004

You mean the non-mobile ones are staying? What?! I'm shocked. How old is your faculty? Who has left/or would be leaving at the beginning of the term? What course is CBED staying? Going down like the Titantic? Come on now, this is drivel. Doty's not a bad guy, he just should have not come to USM. It's an impossible place to be. When the faculty asks you why you would ever come to USM in your interview, that should be a good sign of things. Bad judgement HD. The faculty and staff won't respect anyone who comes here anyway, who can blame them. It's also part of the built-in inferiority complex of USM. I'm 4th tier and I'm loving every minute of it baby! CBED is not even on the b-school map. We are Mississippi's business school, yeah, it's worst one.

Shut the doors, turn out the lights...oh, most of those don't work anyway.

Good luck.

Date: Aug 23, 2004

C-Dead, sounds like you have 10 year old vendetta with new scapegoat. Are you mobile, sir? If so, then please leave. Dean Doty is moving forward with us on AACSB, the new integrity policy, PRIDE and others. He secured good raises for our most productive people back in January of this year. What have you done? Get out of his way.

Date: Aug 23, 2004

This is why most folks avoid the business school threads. Old Timer posted - sounded reasonable - Dead Head posted with a different perspective but also sounded reasonable. So far, so good - then Round Two starts and everyone sees that they're just setting each other up.

Getting very close to ceasing to care...

Date: Aug 23, 2004

Although he may not have the title, isn't Ken Malone the real dean anyway? He's creating programs left and right with no faculty. He got a January raise. Get out of his way. Everyone will be going mobile...down to Gautier. No trip reimbusrement either. Your raise is just gas money.

Date: Aug 23, 2004

Ken Malone will not succeed in what he is trying to do. He does not think things through. The Gautier program will fail from lack of judgement on his part. Dean Doty is the final decision for the college, not Malone. Malone will soon be moved to another college, and Dean Doty can continue on his goals to increase the emphasis on service and teaching in the college. Most of those on the dark side in the college like to use Malone to stir up trouble. They should just leave. If you dislike Doty, think for a moment how much worse things could be with other dean.

Date: Aug 23, 2004

Yes, I think our priority should be service. You've convinced me. I'm on board. Thanks old prof, your wisdom is commesurate with your years. Meet me by the Aramark hot dog stand. I just volunteered to serve weiners. Looks good on the FAR. Seriously.

Date: Aug 23, 2004

It looks like somebody has a vendetta against Marc DePree. What's Old Prof's problem? Has he been on the wrong side of a disagreement with DePree?

As best I can tell DePree puts his name on everything he has to say. He doesn't call people names behind their back. Some people might say that people who stand up for what they believe have character.

As for being malcontents, are the people who want to Fire Shelby malcontents? Are they people with a ten year old axe to grind? I think Dr. Thames might say they are. I guess it just depends on your perspective.

I probably shouldn't post this because somebody like Old Prof will probably just use it for a reason to hone his axe and renew his vendetta. Hey, maybe Old Prof is a malcontent.

Date: Aug 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Funny
" Hey, maybe Old Prof is a malcontent."
I will post under your statement, Funny, because it seems to contain an element of decency.

If I've seen the word "malcontent" on the CBED-related threads once, I've seen it a dozen times. It's like someone adding the phrase "Ya' hear"" everytime they utter a sentence.

Etomology of the word "discontent":

Mal = Bad

Content = Resigned to one's circustances.

Malcontent = Discontented with established conditions.

I would like to say that there is nothing wrong with being "discontented with established conditions." One who is not discontented with established conditions at least some of the time would probably resemble the "WHAT ME WORRY?" person pictured on the cover of Mad Magazine.

There is much to be discontented with at USM. Please, CBED faculty, find a word other than "malcontent" to describe whatever it is you are trying to describe. And please don't use it so often.

Thank you, Funny, for letting me post to your statement.

Yes, I am discontent. And I am not even in CBED.

Date: Aug 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Discombobulated
"
Mal = Bad
"

Hey Dis,

What did I ever do to you??? Angry that you didn't get a Nom d'Aplomb award? Why else would you be calling me names?!!!

Mal

Date: Aug 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Malapropism
" Hey Dis, What did I ever do to you??? Angry that you didn't get a Nom d'Aplomb award? Why else would you be calling me names?!!! Mal"

Officer, this person follows me everywhere I go.

Date: Aug 23, 2004

Another etymology:

Ken Malone

Mal=bad

One=one

Date: Aug 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: CBED Embed
"Another etymology: Ken Malone Mal=bad One=one "

Very clever, CBED Embed.

Date: Aug 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: CBED Embed
"Another etymology: Ken Malone Mal=bad One=one "

Mr. Wonderful, great quotes abound this week!

Date: Aug 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: oldprof
" He [Doty] secured good raises for our most productive people back in January of this year. "

What do you mean by this one oldprof?

Date: Aug 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Malapropism
"
Hey Dis,
What did I ever do to you??? Angry that you didn't get a Nom d'Aplomb award? Why else would you be calling me names?!!!
Mal"

Ya beat me to the punch line, Mal.

But I'm gonna argue for "DiscomBOBulated" for the NDA award this week, just for the embedded Dylan reference.

Bobsessively,
Vict

Date: Aug 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Invictus
" Ya beat me to the punch line, Mal. But I'm gonna argue for "DiscomBOBulated" for the NDA award this week, just for the embedded Dylan reference. Bobsessively, Vict"

So there may be VICTory ahead, huh? It's about time.

Date: Aug 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Tommy Boy
" What do you mean by this one oldprof?"

You know, Tommy Boy. The list of mid-year raises in the CBED have been made public numerous times on this board. Everyone knows who top producers are: TH and BB in marketing, EN and GC in economics, JC and SB in management, etc. These were the main on the list for raises in Janary.

Date: Aug 24, 2004

Define "productive..."

Date: Aug 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Old Prof
"Dean Doty is the final decision for the college, not Malone.

That doesn't seem to be how it worked out for Jay Grimes at Gulf Park. But I'll agree with oldprof that the dean should be the final decision within CBED. The problem is that the president is the final decision for anything, the president is a micromanager & the president listens to Ken Malone before he listens to any dean, particularly one that's only be on board for a year.

I think Dean Doty was sold a bill of goods when he was hired, frankly.

Date: Aug 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: oldprof
" You know, Tommy Boy. The list of mid-year raises in the CBED have been made public numerous times on this board. Everyone knows who top producers are: TH and BB in marketing, EN and GC in economics, JC and SB in management, etc. These were the main on the list for raises in Janary. "

Who are these people/initials?

Date: Aug 24, 2004

If you go to the library website you can find a list of all the publications of all the university faculty. A quick glance at CBED suggests that since 2000 there have been a number of productive faculty(at least based on pure numbers, I'm certainly not qualified to judge journal quality) that were not on the mid-year raise list. Perhaps some of the unhappiness over there is justified. There are faculty on this list that published twice as many papers in the last 3 years as those receiving raises. I'm assumming that these must be the REALLY mobile faculty they keep talking about. I'm glad we work at a place that wouldn't want to keep people doing so much work around! How are we supposed to stay in the 4th tier with this kind of productivity?

Date: Aug 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Glad NOT N CBED
"If you go to the library website you can find a list of all the publications of all the university faculty. A quick glance at CBED suggests that since 2000 there have been a number of productive faculty(at least based on pure numbers, I'm certainly not qualified to judge journal quality) that were not on the mid-year raise list. Perhaps some of the unhappiness over there is justified. There are faculty on this list that published twice as many papers in the last 3 years as those receiving raises. I'm assumming that these must be the REALLY mobile faculty they keep talking about. I'm glad we work at a place that wouldn't want to keep people doing so much work around! How are we supposed to stay in the 4th tier with this kind of productivity?"

In Shelboo's universe, REALLY mobile = crony, and actually publishing
=not contributing to economic development.

Date: Aug 24, 2004

sounds like the plight of the CISE faculty. Those that actually published in decent journals etc. were made to leave so that the non scholarlies (CRK,RK< MR, and DGT) could somehow justify their paltry and feeble academic relevant positions. People only pretend over there, It is a pathetic joke..

Date: Aug 25, 2004

When our "c"BED is burning?

A blast from the 80s. CBED is like an academic version of Baghdad. Check out their building, the smell, the lack of functioning climate control, I hear nothing works over there. Desks actually fall apart when students sit in them. On top of that, all the junior faculty will leave shortly, after a one or two year tour of duty, if they don't become a POW of bad circumstances or get mired in the Econ Dev. game which has no respect outside of USM. Students should definitely go elsewhere for the same money paid.

Date: Aug 25, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by: How Can We Sleep...

" . should definitely go elsewhere for the same money paid. "

It would be interesting to know whether the number of applicants for advertised faculty positions here has increased, decreased, or remained the same, given that USM has become the spectacle of academic America.

Date: Aug 27, 2004

Farhong--your writing level is easy to detect. You write just like you talk.

Date: Aug 27, 2004

See above

Date: Aug 29, 2004

I don't know if Old Proff is Dr Niroomand or not, but I would say that this is probably not a singular voice in the CBED.

I have taken courses under Dr Niroomand and he is a very fine professor. I wonder what the purpose of slandering him on this board? Is he not a member of the AAUP? Probably not, most faculty members at Southern Miss aren't.

BTW, what is the actually paid membership number for the AAUP at Southern Miss? Is it above 100 yet?