Isn't the Hudson issue a moot point now that he's moving to TX?

And, what you say about Mader is a very pertinent issue.

Has anybody else noticed that since the people on this board and some of the other former faculty have stopped writing letters to HA that there have been no more negative letters about the USM faculty? In fact, the last letter I remember was Parker's and we all saw what a mess that made. Since response to his letter died down, I have not seen additional letters.

Au contraire. I had a letter published after his. School is out.

Nice spin OP. You make the same errors that Seeker use to make.

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Originally posted by: Online Prof
" 1) I assume you are talking about the Opinions letters and the few instructors yelling on TV or smashing awards on TV? Is that right?

We are talking about the opinion letters critical of faculty for "not doing a days work for a days pay", being "lazy" and "radical". These letters were from people who had no knowledge of how a university works and no knowledge of faculty evaluations to make these observations.

2) How was Hudson supposed to stop the negative press?

He agreed to REBUT these types of letters when they appeared in the media.

3) I am really confused by this post. Are you talking about the faculty and their friends who wrote letters to the media complaining about Thames or are you talking about the faculty and their friends who wrote letters complaining about the anti-Thames faculty? Or are you talking about both?

The letters complaining about the faculty needed to be rebutted because they were NOT factual. They were OPINIONS of people who had no knowledge of how a university operates. You are making the same mistake Seeker made. He assumed both sides were wrong. However, the letters critical of SFT were usually from faculty informing the public that SFT was being unprofessional because he was not using Shared Governance. The public is generally ignorant of this process. If you can't see this difference, I must assume you are a prof ONLY online.

4) Can you elaborate on your post about Lisa Mader. Are you saying she has control over all the letters that anti-Thames faculty and their "friends" wrote to the media?

I'm not. However, as PR person for the UNIVERSITY, she should be rebutting ALL negative publicity about staff, faculty, student and administration, not just SFT. There is some evidence (similarity of the letters critical of faculty, a mail out to alumni, etc) that letters critical of the faculty were encourage by an administrator. This is the perception of some faculty and was told to SFT at the PC meeting in June. Of course, you won't see those exact words in the minutes, but he was told. "

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Originally posted by: LeavingASAP
"Sorry my last post mixed the quotes of OP and my reply. I hope it can still be understood."

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Fixed it.

Let's face it.  In his two years as Provost, whether before or after the carefully planned and purposeful switch from the coast to the Burg (thank you, Lisa), Hudson has not done one single thing to support the academic heart of the University--the faculty.

Rumor now has it that he is positioning himself to return as president when Thames retires.  If this is true, God bless you everyone. 

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"Nice spin OP. You make the same errors that Seeker use to make.
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He agreed to REBUT these types of letters when they appeared in the media.. "
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good thing he didn't rebut. that just would have prolonged the battle, which is really what most of you here want to do. as someone else noted, the problem seemed to stop once former faculty, staff, and friends stopped writing. that is all that had to be done. you want to test my hypothesis? start your negative writing campaign again.

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Originally posted by: dont think so
" I have copies of both your letters. Neither one came after Parker’s."

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Why would you be maintaining copies of LVN's letters, don't think so; you keeping a dossier on her or something?

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good thing he didn't rebut. that just would have prolonged the battle, which is really what most of you here want to do. as someone else noted, the problem seemed to stop once former faculty, staff, and friends stopped writing. that is all that had to be done. you want to test my hypothesis? start your negative writing campaign again."

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Just wait, sickle&hammer, for the fall semester to begin. There are many faculty issues that SFT has ignored, but they haven't gone away. Most of the faculty are not here during the summer. Letters and more will resume. Prepare for the new season.
Things might start to get interesting at the next PC meeting on Wednesday.